Re: [9fans] what heavy negativity!

Hi Mayuresh ! Can't help offering the quote: *First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. * *Mahatma Gandhi* I have read with considerable bemusement the many responses to your proposal. Granted that it does look like a huge challenge. Knowledgeable

Re: [9fans] Is Plan 9 C "Less Dangerous?"

Ha HA ! Good one ! I believe that the core of the problem with the C language is that is based upon abstracting the PDP-11 instruction set. CPUs, such as Intel/AMD x64 are vastly more complex so "optimising" C compilers are trying to make something simple take advantage of something far more

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

That's very neat ! You might want to consider using a derivative of that PDP-11 work in a IoT (Internet of Things) context. IoT devices really need a better programming environment than that provided by Arduino development tools. On 28 June 2018 at 02:20, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > On Wed,

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

Talking of Forth, it is worthwhile to note that Postscript as implemented by Adobe for laser printers and subsequently for photo-typesetters, etc is a very good example of Forth-like system running on bare metal and providing an application specific programming + operating environment. Years

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

Re: your comment about trackpad / vertical mouse. I had a similar RSI problem a couple of years ago. I solved it by using a Logitech trackball with my right hand - but only to move the cursor and I used a MS optical mouse with the tracking window taped over so that I would only use it to click

Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?

I fear that I might be starting a flame war, but ... I have been using Plan9 (and Inferno to a lesser extent) on and off for about two decades. The concepts are very enticing. But like any other niche OS (e.g. Minix) the biggest stumbling block seems to be device drivers. And display adaptors

Re: [9fans] R.I.P cs.bell-labs.com

Would GitHub or similar be easier to manage and track changes, contributions, etc? I would prefer to have separate directories for common, 9front specific, native specific. At the moment stuff is a bit all over the place. On 5 January 2018 at 10:24, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

Re: [9fans] What does your fileserver consist of?

Hi Jim, I think you should be fine. I'm using five rescued HP ePCs all with PIII @800MHz, 128MB RAM and a range of HDs, including one one with 80GB. All connected via a HP ProCurve 1G switch. I have one RPi2

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

I have been following this discussion about the C compiler and can no longer stop myself from making a (snarky?) comment. The K standard for C was very much written when the C language was a higher than assembler language for the PDP-11 (at least that's how I became acquainted with it back in

Re: [9fans] rpi boot

I might be doing something wrong here, I was just responding to Adriano's post - which I thought remained at the bottom of my response. On 24 October 2015 at 10:00, Andrew Simmons wrote: > I’m not sure where you’re up to, so apologies if this isn’t helpful, but > to get the

Re: [9fans] rpi boot

I don't have the Plan9 uSD card handy, but to the best of my recollection all Raspberry Pi SD cards have at least two partitions on them. The ARM processor remains halted upon reset and the VideoCore loads the image from the (first?) DOS formatted partition. Once that image is loaded into RAM,

Re: [9fans] Small Plan 9 Platforms

Hi Brian, Plan 9 works really well on a Raspberry Pi B for me. Haven't tried it on a RasPi 2 yet though. I would be rather cautious about so called compatible products. I have yet to meet a product that is truly compatible and the quirks tend to take up a disproportionate amount of time to

Re: [9fans] DigiLand DL701Q quad core tablet

Plan9 kernel is monolithic with the drivers required for a specific platform compiled in. So you might need to write specific drivers for new hardware if they are not already available. The paper: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/compiling_kernels/ explains the steps required to generate a

Re: [9fans] questions about 9atom and 9legacy; and their updates

Thank you for the clarification, I was puzzling over similar issues. You could also consider 9vx http://swtch.com/9vx/ especially if you are tempted to try running under Qemu or some other virtualised environment. Although I'm only at the exploratory stage, I find 9vx more useful than 9front. I

Re: [9fans] Chrome and 9

I think that Plan9Port using the underlying Linux OS might be a better choice. I have also been thinking about cross-compiling from a Plan9 install (such as that on Raspberry Pi) to Samsung ARM based ChromeBook. Getting Plan9 to work with fastboot and implementing device drivers for the various