On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 20:14:03 -0700, "Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)"
wrote:
lyndon> Have you thought about
lyndon> mounting a server on top of the mouse device that reads the raw
lyndon> positioning data and passes up a running average of the last n
lyndon> positions? Basically, interpose a
Dworkin Muller writes:
> I have physical issues with trying to perform fine-grained mouse
> operations (uncontrollable small hand tremors).
[ ... ]
> So, my question is, are there any viable alternatives for use with
Joining the conversation late ... sorry. Have you thought about
mounting a
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, at 12:19 AM, Dworkin Muller wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 22:33:07 +0100, "Ethan Gardener"
> wrote:
> eekee57> To be honest, it helps that the editor's source code is only
> eekee57> about 2.5KB. ;)
>
> So you're using the Forth environment as your editor, not just using
>
On Sat, 03 Jul 2021 22:33:07 +0100, "Ethan Gardener"
wrote:
eekee57> To be honest, it helps that the editor's source code is only
eekee57> about 2.5KB. ;)
So you're using the Forth environment as your editor, not just using
Forth to drive sam or acme?
Dworkin
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 5:32 PM, silas poulson wrote:
>> On 2 Jul 2021, at 19:06, Ethan Gardener wrote:
>>
>> This reminds me why I switched to Forth: I can program my editor properly
>
> Could you expand on this point?
>
> Vaguely aware of Forth, but no experience with forth editors
Sure.
On 2 Jul 2021, at 19:06, Ethan Gardener
mailto:eeke...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
This reminds me why I switched to Forth: I can program my editor properly
Could you expand on this point?
Vaguely aware of Forth, but no experience with forth editors
Silas
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On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 3:29 AM, umbrati...@prosimetrum.com wrote:
> nothing's tying you to sam syntax:
>
> ,|awk '{print NR "\t" $0}'
>
> then undo.
Good points. I used to pipe through other tools often, and very often used to
make temporary changes and undo them. Can't remember specific uses
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Silas McCroskey wrote:
> > In any case, Plan 9's ed has a nice "browse" command which sam can't match.
> > I used to issue "0bn", then just "b" once per page. Or, if you don't want
> > line numbers, leave out the "n".
>
> "+,+20p" does it. Doesn't work near the
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nothing's tying you to sam syntax:
,|awk '{print NR "\t" $0}'
then undo.
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> In any case, Plan 9's ed has a nice "browse" command which sam can't match. I
> used to issue "0bn", then just "b" once per page. Or, if you don't want line
> numbers, leave out the "n".
"+,+20p" does it. Doesn't work near the end of the file, though; not
sure if that can be improved within
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, at 4:03 PM, silas poulson wrote:
>> On 1 Jul 2021, at 18:48, Ethan Gardener wrote:
>> sam -d can't display line numbers
>
> You can sort of display them via
>
> ,x {
> p
> }
>
> Though it’s ugly and annoyingly can’t apply sam’s regex to remove the
> character locations.
On 1 Jul 2021, at 18:48, Ethan Gardener
mailto:eeke...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
sam -d can't display line numbers
You can sort of display them via
,x {
p
}
Though it’s ugly and annoyingly can’t apply sam’s regex to remove the character
locations.
Silas
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I used to have serious CTS issues from using a mouse. Clenching a mouse
and fine motor movement became physiologically incompatible actions for me.
My simple low cost solution is to have a USB connected Logitech trackball
under my right hand (I'm right handed) and a common wheel USB mouse with
9front's sam has additional "^" and "_" commands which make output of
specified commands go into the command window. Loading a rc file with
a bunch of "fn ... {" simplifies things quite a lot in general, see
http://runjimmyrunrunyoufuckerrun.com/rc/s as an example.
I used to enjoy Acme, but had to give it up when I no longer had an ergonomic
desk. Using the mouse hurt too much. In the way I work, often switching files,
Sam's menus are practically worse than Acme. I tried sam -d (command-line only)
and ed, but... well, I get in a muddle with regexps. Most
If you are looking for a more keyboard driven window management
version of rio, sigrid has made some experiments with this here:
- https://git.sr.ht/~ft/riow
It gives you virtual desktops to move windows around in, by
pressing keys, like i3. It features:
• virtual desktops
• switch between
i don't think you're missing anything obvious in terms of acme, it's
clearly not made for you.
your options are either to modify acme itself and insert keyboard
shortcuts, or to ignore acme and try to make as many little scripts as
possible, executed from rio terminals.
i often feel like i can
> taking advantage of Fitts' law in UI interactions
another fairly standard practice: organise window management
to leave a pixel or two around the edge to allow slamming
mouse to the nearest extremity in order to access rio b3 menu.
blasphemy: I occasionally wonder how difficult it would be
to
There's a huge difference using my mouse in Plan9 than in Plan9port on my
mac. Plan9 feels almost unusable by comparison. I suspect much of this is
the very finely tuned acceleration/fine-pointing behavior of the mouse on
modern desktop platforms.
That's probably a ripe space for improving the
> needing to copy/paste previous commands in terminal windows, etc.
see " and "" scripts
The finnicky mouse stuff is indeed an annoyance in acme. I use sam &
a trackball & a huge font. some conveniences have been added to sam,
^B and ^G to switch from sam window and back to buffer. Make use
I have physical issues with trying to perform fine-grained mouse
operations (uncontrollable small hand tremors). The net effect is
that anything more much specific than window selection is difficult
and takes several seconds - pretty much the antithesis of the study
results that showed that
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