Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com: written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. So, written in Go, but unlike Go? So, written for Plan 9, but unlike Plan 9? (remember Glenda?)
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
http://ipn.caerwyn.com/2008/03/lab-85-stowage.html On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM, minux minux...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 9:29 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. basically, this is how git works. Anyway, mapping a git repository to venti on the fly seems like a fun project.
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
I see this gitfs implementation, last checkin was years ago. https://github.com/manzur/gitfs On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: http://ipn.caerwyn.com/2008/03/lab-85-stowage.html On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM, minux minux...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 9:29 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. basically, this is how git works. Anyway, mapping a git repository to venti on the fly seems like a fun project. -- Ramakrishnan https://rkrishnan.org/
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
(replying to myself... somehow I missed linuxemu... sorry for the noise Russ) On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Joseph Stewart joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote: Bear with me as I dream about work someone smarter than me does :P Is there any prior art on using plan9 or Inferno as a hypervisor? I mention this because it would be very cool to have a minimized OS+app image (something like what this script generates for Docker : https://github.com/Playsoft/container_builder) that plan9/inferno was the welcomed Insect Overlord (*1) for. The idea would be off the shelf Linux apps would run inside the managed instance to export a 9p fs (in this case git + plan9fs glue). I honestly don't know if this is just a giant band-aid that enhancing APE would be a better effort for, but honestly, I'd rather just be able to do a apt-get install XYZ and then Docker-ize some random Linux app and do 9p glue than putting the autoconf junk on plan9. Taking my dangerously small knowledge forward, maybe it would be possible to take the exokernel (*2) / Arrakis (*3) ideas into plan9 or Inferno? (*1 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-for-one-welcome-our-new-insect-overlords) (*2 http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/exo.html) (*3 https://www.usenix.org/conference/osdi14/technical-sessions/presentation/peter ) On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan vu3...@gmail.com wrote: I see this gitfs implementation, last checkin was years ago. https://github.com/manzur/gitfs On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: http://ipn.caerwyn.com/2008/03/lab-85-stowage.html On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:16 PM, minux minux...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 17, 2014 9:29 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. basically, this is how git works. Anyway, mapping a git repository to venti on the fly seems like a fun project. -- Ramakrishnan https://rkrishnan.org/
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: i have moved the plan9port sources from mercurial to git. the instructions [...] Good thing! Will pull requests be supported? Codereview didn't seem to work that reliable... Carsten
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: i have moved the plan9port sources from mercurial to git. the instructions There had been two repositories, one on swtch and one on google. There had not always been synchronized, that on google was more up-to-date. I don't know why it had been necessary to have two repositories. Will that on google also be removed? (I'd prefer that...) Carsten
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
There had been two repositories, one on swtch and one on google. There had not always been synchronized, that on google was more up-to-date. I don't know why it had been necessary to have two repositories. Will that on google also be removed? (I'd prefer that...) The Google Code repository was useful to be able to use Rietveld for code reviews. Since the plan9port repository now moved to Git and uses Gerrit for code reviews, there is no need for any of the old repositories anymore. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
perhaps more substantially, i created a github.com/9fans organization. right now it's just plan9port, and i intended to add drawterm. if anyone else wants to host plan9-related things there, i'm happy to add more owners. Is 9vx a candidate for this? It would seem a shame to leave it in HG world? Lucio. - This email has been scanned by the MxScan Email Security System. -
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
Is 9vx a candidate for this? It would seem a shame to leave it in HG world? I already asked Russ for it. I'll do the Git conversion and continue to maintain this repository. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
My priority right now is cleaning up APE’s getsockopt to support other Python scripts, a new build of Python and Mercurial—with hggit. We should have had decent getsockopt() and setsockopt() implementations for a while, both will be needed for any more advanced APE dependencies— possibly including trying to port git if you want SO_KEEPALIVE. this option, simply ignored, should do. - erik
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
Ooohhh...this is great! I'm really glad for this change. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: i have moved the plan9port sources from mercurial to git. the instructions at http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man1/install.html are up-to-date: you can still install by downloading a .tgz, or you can use git clone. it's entirely possible i've missed some things. let me know on plan9port-dev or send a code review (see 9 man codereview). perhaps more substantially, i created a github.com/9fans organization. right now it's just plan9port, and i intended to add drawterm. if anyone else wants to host plan9-related things there, i'm happy to add more owners. thanks. russ -- Ryan If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was nul-terminated. Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory evidence. - srean Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
Quoting Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com: written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. So, written in Go, but unlike Go? khm
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 01:14:22 CST Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: I look forward to Go's fifth version control system. Hopefully that one will be concise, written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. I have a whole bunch of paper projects based on venti!
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
On Mon Nov 17 21:27:01 EST 2014, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 01:14:22 CST Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: I look forward to Go's fifth version control system. Hopefully that one will be concise, written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. I have a whole bunch of paper projects based on venti! if you want to do paper projects, why not start with something simple and fast? - erik
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 21:28:51 EST erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Nov 17 21:27:01 EST 2014, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 01:14:22 CST Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrot e: I look forward to Go's fifth version control system. Hopefully that one will be concise, written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. I have a whole bunch of paper projects based on venti! if you want to do paper projects, why not start with something simple and fast? It is more a case of I have this neat toy. What games can I play with it? than anything else! More the protocol than the disk layout.
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
It is more a case of I have this neat toy. What games can I play with it? than anything else! More the protocol than the disk layout. in my world, if it comes to that, i call it work. :-) - erik
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
On Nov 17, 2014 9:29 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: I don't know about Go (the Go guys are probably already suffering from a massive VCS fatigue), but if you want to play with this idea, there is venti! Vac can take a previous score to do incremental archiving. If you add sepcial blocks that store two parent scores + some metadata, it can represent a merge point. Mapping to a filesystem view would require some thought but I think most of the key pieces are already in place. basically, this is how git works. Anyway, mapping a git repository to venti on the fly seems like a fun project.
[9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
i have moved the plan9port sources from mercurial to git. the instructions at http://swtch.com/plan9port/man/man1/install.html are up-to-date: you can still install by downloading a .tgz, or you can use git clone. it's entirely possible i've missed some things. let me know on plan9port-dev or send a code review (see 9 man codereview). perhaps more substantially, i created a github.com/9fans organization. right now it's just plan9port, and i intended to add drawterm. if anyone else wants to host plan9-related things there, i'm happy to add more owners. thanks. russ
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
perhaps more substantially, i created a github.com/9fans organization. right now it's just plan9port, and i intended to add drawterm. if anyone else wants to host plan9-related things there, i'm happy to add more owners. Thank you, Russ. I looked briefly at Git to estimate the complexity of porting it to Plan 9 (subsequent to Go's announcement) and found in its INSTALL file much to be daunted by, mostly references to shell and perl scripting and Posix compatibility. That said, a port of Git to Windows has been completed and Jeff Sickel announced that porting Git to Plan 9 should not be too difficult, so I look forward to efforts in this direction and plead here to assist with such, if at all possible. You may well be the best authority to answer the question that came immediately to mind: Give the ongoing port of Go to Go and the tools being used for the translation, would a similar approach be worth applying to the Git sources, even if only to measure the cost of moving Go, Git and Plan 9 to a new development infrastructure, one that is sorely missing? Lucio. - This email has been scanned by the MxScan Email Security System. -
Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git
On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: That said, a port of Git to Windows has been completed and Jeff Sickel announced that porting Git to Plan 9 should not be too difficult, so I look forward to efforts in this direction and plead here to assist with such, if at all possible. Not too difficult does not mean it won’t be time consuming. Time is not something I can volunteer these days, hopefully others will be up to the task. My priority right now is cleaning up APE’s getsockopt to support other Python scripts, a new build of Python and Mercurial—with hggit. We should have had decent getsockopt() and setsockopt() implementations for a while, both will be needed for any more advanced APE dependencies— possibly including trying to port git if you want SO_KEEPALIVE. I look forward to Go’s fifth version control system. Hopefully that one will be concise, written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. -jas
