Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread James A. Robinson
As Chris indicated, the keyboard modifiers let you simulate buttons 2 or 3. The remaining issue is the chording combinations, selecting with 1 and then clicking 2 (cut) or 3 (paste), or having some copied text and using 2-1 to execute with args. The patch I mentioned helps with those, letting

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread sl
> I believe that it is documented somewhere on Russ Cox’s website or on > plan9port. Sorry, I thought you were referring to the swipe gestures introduced in the link you quoted. sl

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread Alex Musolino
> > Is there any interest in putting these p9port style keyboard modifiers > into p9bl or 9front? > 9front has Shift+RMB for emulating MMB.

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread Chris McGee
I believe that it is documented somewhere on Russ Cox’s website or on plan9port. Basically, you can hold down the ctrl or alt keys while clicking/dragging to simulate the same action with the middle or right mouse button. I think that chording is possible too by holding down both ctrl and alt

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread sl
> Is there any interest in putting these p9port style keyboard modifiers into > p9bl or 9front? Could you explain exactly what the modifiers are and how they work? sl

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread Chris McGee
Is there any interest in putting these p9port style keyboard modifiers into p9bl or 9front? It might be a good backup for when I don’t have a true three button mouse kicking around. Chris > > Since I'm on a macbook with a one-button touchpad I end up using > the keyboard modifiers plus the

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread James A. Robinson
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 2:13 AM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > I've tried accessing plan 9 using vnc from a touchscreen tablet, > and yes it does suck. Rio and acme really do want a mouse. > > With a multitouch screen it's possible somebody could think up a > new gesture-based plan 9

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-02 Thread Richard Miller
> i'm sure that touchpad will suck for chording. I've tried accessing plan 9 using vnc from a touchscreen tablet, and yes it does suck. Rio and acme really do want a mouse. With a multitouch screen it's possible somebody could think up a new gesture-based plan 9 interface which would work as

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread hiro
i'm sure that touchpad will suck for chording.

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> While I have a laptop and could put 9front on it, I also really like the > thought of carrying around a little Raspberry Pi and portable > keyboard/mouse as an alternative. i've used a "lapdock" with rpi/9pi. it is *almost* useful as a term. i don't have a pitop (below), but it seems

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread Brian L. Stuart
On Sat, 10/1/16, James A. Robinson wrote: > Honestly I had been assuming one of those usb battery packs would work. :) They work pretty well. One I tested with a B+ and a 3.5" LCD screen lasted about 4 hours before it crashed. I should time it with a 3 and one of the

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread Chris McGee
Sure, they would work but it's one more thing to have to charge. My drill batteries are always charged and I already own them. > On Oct 1, 2016, at 9:40 AM, James A. Robinson wrote: > > Honestly I had been assuming one of those usb battery packs would work. :) > > On

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread James A. Robinson
Honestly I had been assuming one of those usb battery packs would work. :) On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 4:59 AM Chris McGee wrote: I found some $4 voltage regulators that will convert 18v Lithium ion drill batteries to power my Pi. Could be useful for field work.

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread Chris McGee
> I forgot the thinkpad also has an inbuilt battery. Good for mobility > and against flaky power in development countries. I found some $4 voltage regulators that will convert 18v Lithium ion drill batteries to power my Pi. Could be useful for field work.

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread James A. Robinson
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 1:06 AM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > i don't see a mouse in this keyboard. the keys have non-standard size > and i'm sure it sucks to type on it. also once you add up the size of > the pi, the pi case, the cables (dvi-hdmi,

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread hiro
i don't see a mouse in this keyboard. the keys have non-standard size and i'm sure it sucks to type on it. also once you add up the size of the pi, the pi case, the cables (dvi-hdmi, mini-dvi-hdmi, dp-hdmi and vga-hdmi adaptors) and the keyboard you're arriving at thinkpad dimensions anyway. I

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-10-01 Thread James A. Robinson
I was thinking about things like this: http://www.ohgizmo.com/2011/05/20/ohgizmo-review-verbatim-wireless-bluetooth-mobile-keyboard/ On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 3:56 PM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > since i've never been in a cheap motel room with a keyboard and usable > 3-button mouse i tend to

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread Erik Quanstrom
he he.  Puerto Toledo ftw!

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread hiro
> I have a Pi at work and a dual atom file/cpu/auth/etc server at home. it > works well, it takes a few seconds to authenticate but is quick once you are > connected. what's etc server? where is root, on the fs at home? or do you just cpu in or mount your user's directory from the fs at home?

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread hiro
since i've never been in a cheap motel room with a keyboard and usable 3-button mouse i tend to just carry my thinkpad around with me that has a usable inbuilt mouse and keyboard in addition to a display.

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread John Weaver
It's not the bandwidth, it's the latency. I have been playing around with this for a few weeks now. I have it working on T60 that has the kernel, 9fat and a cfs partition locally with the root on a vps 80ms away. There are pros and cons vs drawterm to the same machine. Things that I have not

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread Steve Simon
I have a Pi at work and a dual atom file/cpu/auth/etc server at home. it works well, it takes a few seconds to authenticate but is quick once you are connected. I boot from the pi's flash so I don't really have a terminal but I keep almost nothing in the Pi. -Steve > On 30 Sep 2016, at

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread James A. Robinson
Yeah, and and I wonder how the little Raspberry Pi compares to hardware that was being used for terminals back in the late 90s. It's certainly got more memory and local storage available than many personal computers, though I imagine the i/o bus is slower. Digging around in my email I found this

Re: [9fans] Terminal possibliities...

2016-09-30 Thread Chris McGee
It would be interesting to hear how this works out in practice. The bandwidth requirement is probably so low compared to typical traffic from a hotel, compared even to smart phones. > On Sep 30, 2016, at 3:49 PM, James A. Robinson wrote: > > Is anyone here using Plan 9