[abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Jack Campin
>> The syntax being discussed is nothing but a way of saying, >> "this accidental isn't really necessary." > No, it's a way of saying "If you're a printer program, print this with > parentheses around the sharp". "This accidental isn't necessary" is > one of the things we use parentheses to indi

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Atchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> How do you figure that is going to "clutter up the clef with John> unnecessary accidentals whether they're needed or not???" I was thinking you were going to parse ABC notes without accidentals if someone said they wanted cau

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread John Atchley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Laura Conrad wrote: > > "John" == John Atchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> Just in case I got too wordy and unclear in my other > John> response here's a bit of pseudo-code: > > John> if (accidental_in_abc_source is musically_necessary) { > Joh

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread John Henckel
John A., I agree with you 100% that cautionary accidentals can and should be handled by the typesetting program, NOT with special syntax in the ABC music file. I took the liberty to rewrite your pseudo code. IMO, if the user specifies an unnecessary accidental, then the typesetter should sho

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Atchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Just in case I got too wordy and unclear in my other John> response here's a bit of pseudo-code: John> if (accidental_in_abc_source is musically_necessary) { John> unconditionally display accidental John> }

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Atchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The (^) syntax is precisely a method for the person who wants to print >> a sharp in parentheses to specify this. Whether the sharp is one that >> the program would figure out to add or not. What's your idea for how >>

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread John Atchley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Laura Conrad wrote: > The (^) syntax is precisely a method for the person who wants to print > a sharp in parentheses to specify this. Whether the sharp is one that > the program would figure out to add or not. What's your idea for how > to get this? Just in case I got too

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread John Atchley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Laura Conrad wrote: > Either I don't understand what you're proposing, or you aren't talking > about the same thing as the rest of us. How do you let the person > printing the score control what accidentals are printed without > providing a syntax for doing so? > > The (^)

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread John Atchley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Phil Taylor wrote: > It's a lovely idea, but it gets awfully complicated when you think > about it. What would the output of such a parser be? Some programs want > to make a picture of the staff notation, and would therefore want > postscript, gif or something of that ilk.

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman
Phil Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The early music people need a different convention, where accidentals >affect only the note to which they are attached, but I think that behaviour >should be obtainable via a local switch, and the modern convention should >be the default. This seems right.

[abcusers] optional musical elements WAS: accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman
Let me throw in my support for advisory accidentals in parentheses. It's clearly intuitive--pretty obvious to someone who's reading abc, even without looking documentation. John Chambers' ([EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:07:45 -0800) mention of optional slurs and optional chords reminded m

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread jc
Phil Taylor writes: | John Henckel wrote: | > ... Perhaps someone could write a really portable ABC parser and then | >give away the source code that each developer can just "plug it in" to | >their ABC tool (abc2midi, abc2abc, abc2ps, abc2win, abc2???, | >etc...) There's no sense in everyone re

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Phil Taylor
John Henckel wrote: >It's true that when the new ABC standard become approved (I say, hopefully) >then a lot of software will need to be rewritten to handle the new file >format. Perhaps someone could write a really portable ABC parser and then >give away the source code that each developer can j

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread Laura Conrad
> "John" == John Atchley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> On Wed, 15 Nov 2000, John Henckel wrote: >> At 09:33 AM 11/15/2000 +, Phil wrote: >> >Seems reasonable, although just putting the accidental in a paren would >> >be more intuitive: (^)C etc. Harder to code though,

Re: [abcusers] accidentals in ()

2000-11-16 Thread John Henckel
It's true that when the new ABC standard become approved (I say, hopefully) then a lot of software will need to be rewritten to handle the new file format. Perhaps someone could write a really portable ABC parser and then give away the source code that each developer can just "plug it in" to

[abcusers] Finale plug-in

2000-11-16 Thread NICKL Károly
Hi music friends! Recently, there was a discussinon here on the free Finale NotePad encoder/decoder from Cora. On november 13.th Cora published free plug-in docoders for MUS files, embedded is Web-pages, received with Netscape Communicator and Internet Explorer browsers for Windows. (Mac version