Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread James Allwright
On Fri 16 Nov 2001 at 04:20PM -0800, John Walsh wrote: I haven't been following closely enough to be sure, but I have the impression that the idea of basing the tempo on the L: field has been pretty well discarded, except possibly as a legacy from abc 1.6 in the (deprecated) Q:120

[abcusers] FYI - work in progress

2001-11-19 Thread Guido Gonzato
Hello all, since no one else raised her hand, I have taken the sweet burden on my hefty shoulders: I've started writing the new ABC draft. Design goals: a) 100% upwards compatibility with current ABC; b) main target is western classical music; c) explicitly designed for computer

[abcusers] Agreed resolutions

2001-11-19 Thread Bryancreer
A while ago James Allwright said - The problem of abritrary text has come up before and "_ " is the agreed syntax for arbitrary text and more recently - This was resolved ages ago. Q:120 takes the value of unit note length from the header. If there is a new L: field in the body of the tune, the

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread Laurie Griffiths
James, we're at cross purposes here. In fact I think you are at cross-purposes with everyone else. We know that the existing Q: field works and it's well defined BUT Some people (I think it was Frank that started it) say (and I'm putting words into their mouths) Look, the Q: syntax is all very

Re: [abcusers] FYI - work in progress

2001-11-19 Thread Laurie Griffiths
May I (rather humbly since I'm not doing the work) suggest that you do not wait until it's all complete and then publish it all at once. It would cause too much reading load so that some people would not read it all for months and then, several months late, object like mad. It would also be

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread Simon Wascher
Hello, Laurie Griffiths wrote: So we find we've begged some questions. OK, so Allegro is 120 per minute, but 120 of WHAT per minute?? It then became clear that if you are playing in 6/8 it would mean 120 3/8 notes but if you were playing in 2/4 it would mean 120 1/4 notes and if you were

Re: [abcusers] Tempo indicators

2001-11-19 Thread Laura Conrad
James == James Allwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James 1. Musical terms would be better put in a new field (I think q: has been James suggested) than added to the existing Q: field. Possibly N: would be James acceptable. No, it wouldn't. N: is used for notes. I use it for

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread James Allwright
On Mon 19 Nov 2001 at 01:34PM -, Laurie Griffiths wrote: Some people (I think it was Frank that started it) say (and I'm putting words into their mouths) Look, the Q: syntax is all very well for controlling the speed of a player program, but what I want to be able to do is to say 'play

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread Simon Wascher
James Allwright wrote: I think we need to know whether Allegro is one of a small set of well-defined tempo descriptors (in which case it would be really nice to have the complete set together with their definitions) or one tempo definition in a large and vague set that spans the complete

Re: [abcusers] Agreed resolutions

2001-11-19 Thread Bryancreer
James Allwright said - The "_ " construct is in the draft standard and probably documented in the application notes for a number of abc applications. I concede. You are right. (Why didn't you say this in the first place?) You could have added this from the draft standard - $ A meter change

Re: [abcusers] Agreed resolutions

2001-11-19 Thread Taral
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 04:25:45PM +, James Allwright wrote: The Q: field is documented reasonably well by the 1.6 standard. In the long distant past there was a similar problem caused by the standard stating that an implicit value for the L: field can be deduced from the value of the M:

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread Simon Wascher
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Simon Wascher wrote: why if the beat changes with the meter, the meter (M:) isnt the field which defines by its content (I do *not* mean to add an extention to it) what Allegro (~120 beats per minute) means. However, if the note

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread Jack Campin
I belive it is not really neccessary to define the beat of allegro in Balkan music (like 3+3+2), I've never heard of such a definition in any other music notation context. And for sure it would be an abuse of the classical music's tempo word Allegro. I just fished out my copy of Maud

Re: [abcusers] something really simple

2001-11-19 Thread Frank Nordberg
Laurie Griffiths wrote: James, we're at cross purposes here. In fact I think you are at cross-purposes with everyone else. We know that the existing Q: field works and it's well defined BUT Some people (I think it was Frank that started it) It was Jack, actually. James Allwright

Re: [abcusers] Departures and Discussions

2001-11-19 Thread Laura Conrad
Jean-Francois == Jean-Francois Moine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jean-Francois Sure I should tell everyone the changes I did to satisfy their Jean-Francois needs, but, as it is often done after a while in a unstable release, Jean-Francois I hoped the concerned people had a look and