Laura,
Maybe you can comment on how the !nobreak! command is
implemented in lilypond, where you found it useful?
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
The other suggestion made here, that we need another
character to mark a place where programs should _not_
linebreak seems much less
Could you clarify what this approach is ? In particular, could it be
used as a general solution to the problem we're all having over
accented (or more generally, non-ascii) characters, or is it a
set-up-dependent thing which couldn't be trusted to transfer,
as abc, to other peoples' machines
Thought I'd mention that I incorporated Manuel's latest patches into
my jcabc2ps clone.
That's great, thanks!
The version of jcabc2ps that did this is at:
Just for completeness, these are the accents currently implemented for
all letters and numbers (they will be put on other
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Manuel Reiter wrote:
that's also why I'd prefer a notation like e.g. '\,c'
for c with cedille to single character notations like
'\c').
I believe there are two ways currently supported to
write a c with cedille: \,c and \cc
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Note the c's with acute accents. This is something you don't see in
French, but it's a standard letter in Serbo-Croatian. (Those who
speak Russian can translate it to Tb. ;-)
What are these sequences ? They look like the usual TeX escape
sequences, but are they, or are they
Sorry, one correction:
Just for completeness, these are the accents currently implemented for
all letters and numbers (they will be put on other characters as well but
you'll have to trust your luck for at least close-to-correct placement):
[...]
\kx x with cedille/tail/ogonek
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin
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John Norvell wrote:
In this line
BBe2A4 e2 :| Z ||!
what does the Z mean?
A Rest.
But I wonder if it meas a whole bar rest (uppercase) - z8 is more usual
assuming L:1/8
So is Z a new symbol for a full bar rest?
Bernard
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
So is Z a new symbol for a full bar rest?
Uppercase Z means a full bar rest, Z# with # a natural
number means multibar rest. This is documented in the
abc2midi documentation, together with several other
common extensions.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not
in the official standard or the draft extension. How are developers
supposed to work with this mish-mash?
I missed this one (a single uppercase 'Z' meaning 1 measure rest), but
a
Code is also in there for ring accent and double acute accent, but I
didn't know which abc representation to use for these. I suspect double
acute might be what is called 'long Hungarian umlaut' on Frank Norbeck's
site
That should of course have been 'Frank Nordberg', I'm terribly sorry and
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Irwin Maybe you can comment on how the !nobreak! command is
Irwin implemented in lilypond, where you found it useful?
Lilypond translates the lilypond input format into TeX, so it's
implemented via the TeX line-breaking algorithm. This is
Laura == Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Either way the programming's gonna get messy.
Laura Programming a good linebreaking algorithm is indeed messy.
Which is why the authors of lilypond and MusixTeX decided to let
Donald Knuth do it for them. Unfortunately, this raises
From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together?
It's not
in the official standard or the draft extension. How are
developers
supposed to work with this mish-mash?
My feeling exactly. It is severely inhibiting my enthusiasm for
writing an
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 07:41:00AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote:
Hello,
I have uploaded abcpp 1.3.0 to http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcpp. It
supports two new command switches:
-b: remove single '!'
-k: change single '!' to !break!
this should be useful for 'fixing'
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 10:14:56AM +0200, Manuel Reiter wrote:
Note the c's with acute accents. This is something you don't see in
French, but it's a standard letter in Serbo-Croatian. (Those who
speak Russian can translate it to Tb. ;-)
What are these sequences ? They look
Manuel Reiter writes:
| Sorry, one correction:
|
| Just for completeness, these are the accents currently implemented for
| all letters and numbers (they will be put on other characters as well but
| you'll have to trust your luck for at least close-to-correct placement):
| [...]
| \kx
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John And I've wondered whether cedille and ogonek are actually
John two different things, or just different artistic
John representations of the same mark. I know that you see a
John variety of such tails in the languages that use
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay
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The problem is, that although it's just bad abc is literally true,
there are many cases where
large bodies of tunes (order of a hundred in a single file) are written
in this way. It comes down
to why and how the tunes were
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson
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On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not
in the official standard or the draft
Skink does it the way you want. AFAIK, no other program will.
wil
Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
Hi there,
Suppose I have the following:
K:HP
M:2/2
L:1/8
defg
Then there will be a single beam joining all notes, with an extra beam
between the e and the f. But what I would like, rather than this
On 11 Jul 2003 at 12:17, Wil Macaulay wrote:
Skink does it the way you want. AFAIK, no other program will.
Alasdair McAndrew wrote:
Hi there,
Suppose I have the following:
defg
Then there will be a single beam joining all notes, with an extra beam
between the e and the f.
Richard Robinson wrote:
I also added some little modifications to jcabc2ps, so that it interprets
sequences like, e.g., '\vc' as 'put a hacek on the letter c' and inserts
the appropriate postscript in its output.
The postscript part should, as far as I can tell, not depend on any
specific
Bernard Hill wrote:
Why is it so great? What's wrong with z8 (or z6 or whatever is
appropriate)?
Presumably because you can write | Z5 | and have the program interpret
it as | z8 | z8 | z8 | z8 | z8 |, thus saving a lot of typing. If it's
any consolation, while this has been discussed here I
Richard Robinson writes:
| What about :|: ? I think this is another abc2win-ism (?) which not all
| programs seem to cope with.
In general, people seem to use any and all combinations of :|[] as
complex bar lines. In modifying abc2ps for use with my Tune Finder, I
found that it was useful to try
If there was a reply to this, I must have missed it in the recent
torrent of messages, so ...
On 9 Jul 2003 at 9:43, Bernard Hill wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers
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Bernard Hill writes:
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers
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| I opened my
Bernard Hill wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay
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The problem is, that although "it's just bad abc" is literally true,
there are many cases where
large bodies of tunes (order of a hundred in a single file) are written
in this way. It
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 05:14:22PM +, John Chambers wrote:
Richard Robinson writes:
| What about :|: ? I think this is another abc2win-ism (?) which not all
| programs seem to cope with.
...
You might be impressed by the variety of inventive bar lines that are
in use in abc on the
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay
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Skink does it the way you want. AFAIK, no other program will.
Music Publisher does... soon to have abc import and export.
Bernard Hill
Braeburn Software
Author of Music Publisher system
Music Software written by musicians for
Hi folks,
Is there some way to notate a Fall Down?
Regards,
Luis Pablo Gasparotto
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Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003 01:23:11 +0200 (CEST),
=?iso-8859-1?q?Forgeot=20Eric?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible to instruct (or modify) abcm2ps to
create pure black and white PS output (without gray
values) and to draw the staff lines as thin as
possible? This way
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wil Macaulay
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Actually as a performer and software author who has an interest in old
manuscripts, I want to
see how the tune was notated, and then I'll make up my own mind want I
mean when I play the
tune. Lack of repeat starts means the
Surely a performer wants to know what the writer meant? And lack of
repeat starts means there is no information as to how the tune was
to be played, eg whether the whole tune repeated or just to the
previous double or repeat bar.
imo notation which is incorrect should be flagged by software
We've been over this before, but back when BarFly was the only
application to support both parts and multi-voice playback. So
maybe other implementations have moved on enough to merit a re-run.
The following is my way of representing a piece in book 6 of
Aird's collection. Aird used a da capo,
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