Re: [abcusers] Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" released

2004-12-20 Thread Toady
On Mon, 2004-12-20 at 08:50 +, rwfranz wrote: > > Noteedit seems to be pretty good, so far. Haven't tried multiple staves, > yet. Didn't take me very long to figure out how to make things work. You > do need midi working to hear sound, though. Yes, you have the choice of software now. To

Re: [abcusers] Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" released

2004-12-20 Thread rwfranz
Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Sébastien Tricaud wrote: Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" is out. This release focuses on bug fixing and improved score editing. But looking at it, clicking everywhere, checking out all the menus, after 2 weeks I still don't have no idea how to create my firs

Re: [abcusers] Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" released

2004-12-20 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Sébastien Tricaud wrote: Hi Folks, Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" is out. This release focuses on bug fixing and improved score editing. Hi, I read about your Gscore 0.0.8, downloaded it, compiled it, and run it on my Linux Fedora Core 2 system. But looking at it, clicking everywh

Re: [abcusers] Yet another text based Music typesetting program

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: The link to www.quercite.com seems to be dead at this moment, I hope temporarily. The links works again. -- Martin Tarenskeen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] abcm2ps-3.7.x and RoPS

2004-12-17 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
Hi everybody, John Walsh warned me about a problem when using the free version of RoPS (PostScript level 1 only) with stable releases of abcm2ps (3.7.xx). Here is how to make it work: - create a file (say 'ps1.abc') containing: %%postscript /rectstroke{ %%postscript4 2 roll M 1 index

[abcusers] abcm2ps-3.7.20

2004-12-16 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, I have put SpareMiNT RPM packages from abcm2ps-3.7.20 (last stable release) for Atari FreeMiNT here: http://www.home.zonnet.nl/m.tarenskeen/download/mint/ An abc syntax highlight file (abc.syn) for the Atari editor QED can also be downloaded from this location. The newer abcm2ps-4.x develop

Re: [abcusers] Gscore 0.0.7 released

2004-12-15 Thread Sébastien Tricaud
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 22:32 +0100, Remo D. wrote: > Sébastien Tricaud wrote: > > >Hi folks, > > > >Gscore is a musical score editor. > > > Looks interesting! Thanks, and sorry I saw this message quite late :( > > I'd like to try it, do you have a precompiled Win version? I promise > I'll insta

[abcusers] Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" released

2004-12-14 Thread Sébastien Tricaud
Hi Folks, Gscore 0.0.8 "laetmotive" is out. This release focuses on bug fixing and improved score editing. Changes on top of 0.0.7 include: - automatic horizontal scroll - better selection - you can now change the notes selected - fixed a bug while loading plugins Screenshots: http://www.gscore.

Re: [abcusers] Re: Nice, free or affordable abcpackage runing under windows

2004-12-13 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 23:53:45 -0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >My suggestion is: > >abcm2ps.exe >http://abcplus.sourceforge.net > >runabc.exe (with built-in tcl/tk) >http://ifdo.pugmarks.com/~seymour/runabc/top.html) > >GNU GhostScript + GSView: >http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html >http://w

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-13 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "Atte André Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jon Freeman wrote: > > > Try alt 124 (hold alt [not alt gr] key and type 124 on number pad before > > releasing alt) > > Doesn't work OK, I've found it - its a bug. See http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do;:YfiG?bug_id=4957565 Maybe there i

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-13 Thread Atte André Jensen
Jon Freeman wrote: OK, I've found it - its a bug. See http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do;:YfiG?bug_id=4957565 Thanks alot. That's nice to know :-) Now I know where to dirrect my attention!!! Maybe there is a later version of Java that fixes it. I'll try different versions, also earlier o

RE: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Richard Walker
If there is no "|" available, perhaps you could use a substitute character (like a / or \ or ~) and do one "search and replace" at the end of your editing so you only have to worry about the "|" once? To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Atte André Jensen
Christian M. Cepel wrote: Can you create that character in some other text editor (Word, Notepad, TextEdit), and then either assign it to a keyboard macro, or just paste it in when you need it? That would be possible, but considering how often we use | in abc I don't consider that an option...

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Atte André Jensen
Jon Freeman wrote: Try alt 124 (hold alt [not alt gr] key and type 124 on number pad before releasing alt) Doesn't work -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://www.atte.dk To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

RE: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc?

2004-12-12 Thread Richard Walker
er 12, 2004 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc? Hi, (please view this with a monospaced font) With the modern software available you can obviously print melody without lyrics, print one single voice out of a multivoice file etc. It normally s

Re: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc?

2004-12-12 Thread Ulf Bro
> The free programs at: > > http://world.std.com/~gdallal/UKE.HTM > > can produce the type output you mention. Just run the > option that doesn't produce the ukulele chord diagrams. A most interesting software indeed and a very good idea. They produce good output, but so far as I can see they do

Re: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc?

2004-12-12 Thread Aaron Newman
m notation. - Original Message - From: "Ulf Bro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:20 AM Subject: [abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc? Hi, (please view this with a monospaced font) With the modern software availabl

[abcusers] Make only lyrics and chords from abc?

2004-12-12 Thread Ulf Bro
Hi, (please view this with a monospaced font) With the modern software available you can obviously print melody without lyrics, print one single voice out of a multivoice file etc. It normally should also be possible to use the same abc file to print out something like this: (1) good versio

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "Atte André Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wil Macaulay wrote: > > Atte, when you say '"it's the same in other applications" do you mean > > that other java applications also will not allow you to enter the "|" key? > > Yes, that's what I mean... > > > Is there a key on your keyboard that has

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Christian M. Cepel
Can you create that character in some other text editor (Word, Notepad, TextEdit), and then either assign it to a keyboard macro, or just paste it in when you need it? Atte André Jensen wrote: Wil Macaulay wrote: Atte, when you say '"it's the same in other applications" do you mean that other j

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-12 Thread Atte André Jensen
Wil Macaulay wrote: Atte, when you say '"it's the same in other applications" do you mean that other java applications also will not allow you to enter the "|" key? Yes, that's what I mean... Is there a key on your keyboard that has the "|" key on it, or do you normally have to use a composition

Re: [abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-11 Thread Wil Macaulay
Atte, when you say '"it's the same in other applications" do you mean that other java applications also will not allow you to enter the "|" key? Is there a key on your keyboard that has the "|" key on it, or do you normally have to use a composition key sequence? wil Atte André Jensen wrote: Hi

[abcusers] skink, java and |

2004-12-10 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi I downloaded skink but discovered that I cannot use "|" (pretty useful in typing abc) in my java: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ java -version java version "1.4.2_01" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_01-b06) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_01-b06, mixed mode) It's t

[abcusers] Re: Nice, free or affordable abcpackage runing under windows

2004-12-09 Thread hfml
Atte wrote: Hi I guess this has been asked 1.000.000 times before but I'm looking for a nice, easy to setup, easy to use abc-tool running under windows. I'm a linux user myself and I'm most happy with my abcm2ps/gv/emacs/self-made-python-script combo, but more and more of my windows-running

[abcusers] Nice, free or affordable abcpackage runing under windows

2004-12-09 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi I guess this has been asked 1.000.000 times before but I'm looking for a nice, easy to setup, easy to use abc-tool running under windows. I'm a linux user myself and I'm most happy with my abcm2ps/gv/emacs/self-made-python-script combo, but more and more of my windows-running music friends g

[abcusers] [ABCp] Syntax

2004-12-09 Thread Remo D.
I've put on a page (http://abcp.sourceforge.net/abcpsyn.shtml) a very terse description of the syntax ABCp is able to recognize. As always I offer it to your criticism. Feel free to ask what is not clear (I put together the doc "on the fly"). What I'm really interested in is to understand if I t

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-08 Thread Steven Bennett
Phil Taylor wrote: > On 5 Dec 2004, at 19:30, RWW Taylor wrote: > >> The back-quote character appears on the standard Mac keyboard on the >> upper-leftmost key, above the tab ­ very convenient. > > On my G4 PowerBook it's the key to the left of the Z, so I guess it's > not really standardised, e

[abcusers] Whew!!! again

2004-12-06 Thread Jack Campin
I have finally finished the transcription I've been having all these problems with. It might be interesting to use it as a test case, as it's thrown up more problems than anything else I've tried to code in ABC, and I doubt if BarFly will be the only application that creaks a bit trying to process

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-06 Thread hfmlacerda
Em 6 Dec 2004, Jack Campin escreveu: >> The code: >> (6abc``def >> is (normally) interpreted as 6 notes in the time of 2 notes. > >I know. It shouldn't be, that's nothing like normal musical practice. Really, you are correct. [snip] >Here are the results of my attempts to get round this

Re: [abcusers] Yet another text based Music typesetting program

2004-12-05 Thread Wil Macaulay
It builds and installs on Mac OS X without incident. wil Martin Tarenskeen wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Anyone here who ever tried Philips Music Writer (pmw) ? I recently discovered it on http://www.quercite.com/pmw.html and it looks really powerful. I have built an RPM pa

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Phil Taylor
% display totally messed up, playback wrong, it's not reading (6:4 as (6:4:6 You need both colons; (6, (6:: and (6:4: are all legal, 6:4 isn't. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Jack Campin
> The code: >(6abc``def > is (normally) interpreted as 6 notes in the time of 2 notes. I know. It shouldn't be, that's nothing like normal musical practice. > Try use a more precise syntax for tuplets, like: >(6:4abc``def > which stands for 6 notes in the time of 4 notes; > or the c

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Remo D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Bernard Hill wrote: But what's the apostrophe for? And what ascii character is it and how is it produced on keyboards anyway? It's a "back quote" (ASCII 96) according the 2.0 draft is to be ignored: A`B is equivalent to AB. Whew

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Phil Taylor
On 5 Dec 2004, at 19:30, RWW Taylor wrote: The back-quote character appears on the standard Mac keyboard on the upper-leftmost key, above the tab – very convenient. On my G4 PowerBook it's the key to the left of the Z, so I guess it's not really standardised, even on the same platform. Phil Tayl

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Phil Taylor
On 5 Dec 2004, at 16:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. The code: (6abc``def is (normally) interpreted as 6 notes in the time of 2 notes. Try use a more precise syntax for tuplets, like: (6:4abc``def which stands for 6 notes in the time of 4 notes; or the complete form: (6:4:6abc``def which stands

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread RWW Taylor
The back-quote character appears on the standard Mac keyboard on the upper-leftmost key, above the tab – very convenient. The character does appear to be just ignored by, say, the abc conversion software at http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html (unless it appears in the T: field, in

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Remo D.
Bernard Hill wrote: But what's the apostrophe for? And what ascii character is it and how is it produced on keyboards anyway? It's a "back quote" (ASCII 96) according the 2.0 draft is to be ignored: A`B is equivalent to AB. On Dos/Win platform you can get it with Alt+96 (on the numeric keypad).

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hello. The code: (6abc``def is (normally) interpreted as 6 notes in the time of 2 notes. Try use a more precise syntax for tuplets, like: (6:4abc``def which stands for 6 notes in the time of 4 notes; or the complete form: (6:4:6abc``def whic

Re: [abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread hfmlacerda
Hello. The code: (6abc``def is (normally) interpreted as 6 notes in the time of 2 notes. Try use a more precise syntax for tuplets, like: (6:4abc``def which stands for 6 notes in the time of 4 notes; or the complete form: (6:4:6abc``def which stands for a proportion of 6 notes in t

[abcusers] tuplet beaming

2004-12-05 Thread Jack Campin
[Use a wide window for this, it does make sense in a fixed-width font.] The following is a right mess in Barfly, both on playback and display: X:3 T:Oh Callar Spirlings (variation 4) C:Domenico Corri V:1 V:2 M:3/4 L:1/16 Q:1/4=90 K:D Minor [V:1][L:1/16] A2|(6d^cd`ABc (6dag``fed (6^cde``ABc

Re: [abcusers] GHB ... it gets worse ...

2004-12-05 Thread Christian M. Cepel
You guys are awful *grin* I thought the entire procedure of learning the Highland Pipes is to make your fingers do something so unnatural and confusing that you'll never be able to type properly again! When I get my UP out and try to play it, it takes me a good ten minutes to reorganize my

Re: [abcusers] GHB ... it gets worse ...

2004-12-05 Thread Jack Campin
> A little dyslexia can get you in a whole lot trouble ... > something about drugs, bagpipes and fighting in the UK hmm > > "...awareness about the dangers of GHB and its analogs- gamma > hydroxy butyrate > > or maybe those who don't have GHB get into fights and get booked > on GBH after bein

Re: [abcusers] Yet another text based Music typesetting program

2004-12-04 Thread Remo D.
And if anyone needs it, I've built Windows binaries. Just drop me an email and I'll send them to whoever is interested. R.D. Martin Tarenskeen wrote: But I have built an RPM package on my Linux Redhat FC2 system. After installing it, pmw should be ready to use. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point y

Re: [abcusers] Yet another text based Music typesetting program

2004-12-04 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Anyone here who ever tried Philips Music Writer (pmw) ? I recently discovered it on http://www.quercite.com/pmw.html and it looks really powerful. I have built an RPM package from it on my Linux Fedora Core 2 system, and was wondering if anyone is in

Re: [abcusers] GHB ... it gets worse ...

2004-12-03 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
A little dyslexia can get you in a whole lot trouble ... something about drugs, bagpipes and fighting in the UK hmm "...awareness about the dangers of GHB and its analogs- gamma hydroxy butyrate or maybe those who don't have GHB get into fights and get booked on GBH after being exposed to G

Re: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-03 Thread Guy Gascoigne - Piggford
There are some people (we call them music lovers) who might argue that the letter switch was quite appropriate :) sorry, couldn't resist. Guy Phil Taylor wrote: On 3 Dec 2004, at 08:52, Bernard Hill wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian M. Cepel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Any workaro

Re: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-03 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Wow you guys are brutal ... get in a fight and you get sent to jail with bagpipe music (snicker, snicker). At 03:15 AM 12/3/2004, you wrote: On 3 Dec 2004, at 08:52, Bernard Hill wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian M. Cepel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Any workaround to Finale's inab

Re: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-03 Thread Phil Taylor
On 3 Dec 2004, at 08:52, Bernard Hill wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian M. Cepel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Any workaround to Finale's inablity to play GBH music (ornamentations & gracenotes) as they should sound in GBH music? LOL! I think you mean "GHB" - Great Highland Bagpipe. G

Re: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-03 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian M. Cepel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Any workaround to Finale's inablity to play GBH music (ornamentations & gracenotes) as they should sound in GBH music? LOL! I think you mean "GHB" - Great Highland Bagpipe. GBH means "Grievous Bodily Harm". On second th

Re: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-02 Thread Karen
Gidday, I do not know about finale but Electric Pipes recognised abc and is easy to work in for GHB. It is also fairly inexpensive. Karen My Inbox is protected by SPAMfighter 3907 spam mails have been blocked so far. Download free www.spamfighter.com tod

RE: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-02 Thread Richard Walker
I got Finale 2004, used it a while and then went back to abc and several different flavors of abc software depending on what I need to do. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-02 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Funny you should mention Finale I downloaded their 2005 Notepad program. It seems to do a lot of what I want, but one very irritating feature is that there doesn't seem to be an escape key (for Sibelius and a few others, if you it the ESC key (several times to many, many with Sibelius!!) i

[abcusers] Finale & GHB

2004-12-02 Thread Christian M. Cepel
I don't know if I've asked this here or not, but there seem to be several Finale folks Any workaround to Finale's inablity to play GBH music (ornamentations & gracenotes) as they should sound in GBH music? Further, does anyone have some sort of duration "Table" for each GHB ornament in case I

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-12-02 Thread Christian M. Cepel
Has anyone mentioned Noteworthy Composer? It's cheap and simple... Sometimes too simple. > On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: > >> Here's what I would hope to have (and working properly without an >> argument!): >> 1. You can pre-set the key signature, time signature and tempo. >> 2. Y

Re: [abcusers] Re: MIDI instr. / ABC 2.0 [before is was: Bryan Creer (?)]

2004-12-02 Thread hfmlacerda
Em 2 Dec 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: >hi there, Hi, Z. Vassilios. > >i've just subscribed and i would like to ask e couple of questions. > >1. how do i specify an instrument to be used when converting abc to midi? With a command like this after a V: field: %%MIDI program 23 Bu

Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-12-02 Thread Toby Rider
On Dec 2, 2004, at 2:24 PM, John Walsh wrote: John Chambers writes: Hmmm ... I see conflicting evidence here. If he's an academic, he should be completely at home with no-holds-barred discussions. Things like misattribution of quotes, quoting out of context, and blatant misrepresentation of

Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-12-02 Thread Zafiropoulos Vassilios
hi there, i've just subscribed and i would like to ask e couple of questions. 1. how do i specif

[abcusers] OT: Academia

2004-12-02 Thread Don Whitener
At 03:32 PM 12/1/2004, John Chambers wrote: snip After getting some Math and Comp Sci degrees, I hung around in academia for a decade working on a couple of interesting projects. Then I decided to join the Real World. It took several years to learn how to deal with the easily-bruised eg

Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-12-02 Thread John Walsh
John Chambers writes: >Hmmm ... I see conflicting evidence here. If he's an academic, he >should be completely at home with no-holds-barred discussions. Things >like misattribution of quotes, quoting out of context, and blatant >misrepresentation of others' ideas are the order of the day

Re: [abcusers] Gscore 0.0.7 released

2004-12-02 Thread Remo D.
Sébastien Tricaud wrote: Hi folks, Gscore is a musical score editor. Looks interesting! I'd like to try it, do you have a precompiled Win version? I promise I'll install Scons and GTK library to try compile it myself but I'm sure it won't be in a short time! R.D To subscribe/unsubscribe, point y

Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-12-01 Thread John Chambers
Toby Rider wrote: | | > Apart from that, I've spent the last year studying for an MSc in | > Computing in Archaeology which has kept me fairly busy.  For an idea | > of what I've been up to have a look at - | > http://www.bryancreer.com/Castle.html | | You're an academic Bryan? And to think that I

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-12-01 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote: Here's what I would hope to have (and working properly without an argument!): 1. You can pre-set the key signature, time signature and tempo. 2. You can easily setup multiple staffs 3. You can click on a note value from a menu or toolbar and place it rig

Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-12-01 Thread Toby Rider
On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apart from that, I've spent the last year studying for an MSc in Computing in Archaeology which has kept me fairly busy.  For an idea of what I've been up to have a look at - http://www.bryancreer.com/Castle.html You're an academic Bryan? An

[abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-12-01 Thread Bryancreer
John Chambers wrote: >Maybe we should invite him  back.   I've  always  sorta  enjoyed  the>discussions that he started.  And it's been quiet around here lately,>too quiet ...I think Phil Taylor's response to Don's original enquiry neatly illustrated one of the reasons I haven't been around

[abcusers] Gscore 0.0.7 released

2004-12-01 Thread Sébastien Tricaud
Hi folks, Gscore is a musical score editor. It is still early aged, but it allows you to export ABC Music but the import code is here but not working yet :) (wait for the following release, my abc expert is in hollidays). You can get it there: http://www.gscore.org You'll need scons to build it

Re: [abcusers] Bryan Creer (?)

2004-11-30 Thread Jeff Szuhay
On Nov 30, 2004, at 7:54 PM, John Chambers wrote: Phil Taylor writes: | On 30 Nov 2004, at 06:52, Don Whitener wrote: | > I have been out of touch lately, so I offer my sincere apologies | > should I blunder onto any toes. So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has | > not posted to this group since e

Re: [abcusers] Bryan Creer (?)

2004-11-30 Thread Don Whitener
At 06:54 PM 11/30/2004, John Chambers wrote: Phil Taylor writes: | On 30 Nov 2004, at 06:52, Don Whitener wrote: | > I have been out of touch lately, so I offer my sincere apologies | > should I blunder onto any toes. So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has | > not posted to this group since early A

Re: [abcusers] Bryan Creer (?)

2004-11-30 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | On 30 Nov 2004, at 06:52, Don Whitener wrote: | > I have been out of touch lately, so I offer my sincere apologies | > should I blunder onto any toes. So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has | > not posted to this group since early August 2003... Has he dropped out | > for a wh

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Arent Storm
You may have a try with MusiCAD 3.0 beta. It uses abc as its 'second language' for import/export and adheres (more or less) to the 2.0 draft spec. see http://www.musicad.com for more info and download. Arent To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Hi, Yes, there are a few things you can do. a) Specify 0 bars on the New FIle form, then it doesn't fill with rests. You can then drag and drop new notes which are added at the end of the score by default b) Edit the key using the mouse menu. Maybe I can add this to the new file form c) Agreed,

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Got it installed and gave it a quick go. Here's what I've found so far: 1. Can't seem to specify the key before you start. 2. Transpose seems to cause an error unless there are some notes placed. Once a few notes were placed, it seemed to ignore the transpose operation. 3. Note entry is clumsy

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Neil Jennings
Have you tried my program HARMONY? If so, what does it not do, that you need? Neil Jennings www.greenhedges.com Don Parrish-Bell wrote: I have played a bit with Harmony Assistant and it does indeed look promising ... It's author wants $70.00 for it, which is probably not too bad, but I hate to ju

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Yes, G7 is geared towards guitar and costs around $100.00 here. The full-blown version of Sibelius is around $600.00 here, I think, but they offer 50% off for music educators. I am SO thankful I didn't go for the full-blown version! Seems ridiculous to charge that much more for something that

[abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)

2004-11-30 Thread Bryancreer
Don Whitener wrote -   >So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has > not posted to this group since early August 2003... Has he dropped out > for a while? Thanks for asking Don.  It's nice to be missed.   Phil Taylor wrote -   >He does rather tend to drop out for long periods of time, then return >

Re: [abcusers] Bryan Creer (?)

2004-11-30 Thread Phil Taylor
On 30 Nov 2004, at 06:52, Don Whitener wrote: I have been out of touch lately, so I offer my sincere apologies should I blunder onto any toes. So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has not posted to this group since early August 2003... Has he dropped out for a while? He does rather tend to drop ou

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-30 Thread Bernard Hill
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Don Parrish-Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes No offense, Bernard, but $170.00 is more than I paid for Sibelius G7. I do like that you said it "never argues with you" ... definitely something in its favor! Then I don't know where you got your Sibelius from. The curr

[abcusers] Bryan Creer (?)

2004-11-29 Thread Don Whitener
I have been out of touch lately, so I offer my sincere apologies should I blunder onto any toes. So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has not posted to this group since early August 2003... Has he dropped out for a while? Best regards, Don To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://ww

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-29 Thread hfmlacerda
Do you use MS Windows, isn't it? Look at: http://www.xemacs.org/ http://www.xemacs.org/Download/index.html (for XEmacs) and http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html (GNU Emacs). Also get and read the emacs tutorials. The keystrokes are very different from MS-Windows ones

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-29 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
No offense, Bernard, but $170.00 is more than I paid for Sibelius G7. I do like that you said it "never argues with you" ... definitely something in its favor! Any chance you or a representative will be at Winter NAMM in Anaheim this year? Don You might want to look at my Music Publisher 5 (fo

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-29 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
I did have a brief chat with Laurie before his demise. That was quite a loss to the world. He was very gracious and helpful. It's a shame MUSE has not been picked up by someone else to support. It's still listed on Hitsquad and Harmony-Central. The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-29 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
Isn't xemacs a unix only kind of thing? Not familiar with it, but I remember the emacs editor from years ago. Don At 02:51 AM 11/17/2004, you wrote: xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-29 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
I have played a bit with Harmony Assistant and it does indeed look promising ... It's author wants $70.00 for it, which is probably not too bad, but I hate to jump into another program without even knowing how its printed output will look. The eval. version is very wounded can't save, can'

[abcusers] Re: [mup-users] Yet another text based Music typesetting programmup-u

2004-11-25 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Thursday 25 Nov 2004 20:52, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: Anyone here who ever tried Philips Music Writer (pmw) ? I recently discovered it on http://www.quercite.com/pwm.html and it looks really Typo. Should be http://www.quercite.com/pmw.html -- Martin Tarenskeen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point yo

Re: [abcusers] Yet another text based Music typesetting program

2004-11-25 Thread Steve Wyrick
The URL is actually http://www.quercite.com/pmw.html . Looks interesting! -Steve Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > > Anyone here who ever tried Philips Music Writer (pmw) ? I recently > discovered it on http://www.quercite.com/pwm.html and it looks really > powerful. I have built an RPM package fr

[abcusers] Yet another text based Music typesetting program

2004-11-25 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Anyone here who ever tried Philips Music Writer (pmw) ? I recently discovered it on http://www.quercite.com/pwm.html and it looks really powerful. I have built an RPM package from it on my Linux Fedora Core 2 system, and was wondering if anyone is interested. If so, I can polish it a bit and m

Re: [abcusers] Lilypond to ABC converter

2004-11-25 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
Laura, I have a few tunes I typed in Lilypond and I would like to convert them to ABC because is more readable. Regards, Luis Pablo Laura Conrad wrote: "Luis" == Luis Pablo Gasparotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Re: [abcusers] Lilypond to ABC converter

2004-11-25 Thread Laura Conrad
> "Luis" == Luis Pablo Gasparotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luis> Is there anybody working on a Lilypond to ABC converter? Why would you want to go that way? Just write it in ABC in the first place. Then use the abc to lilypond converter if you want to add some of the information tha

[abcusers] Lilypond to ABC converter

2004-11-25 Thread Luis Pablo Gasparotto
Hi, Is there anybody working on a Lilypond to ABC converter? Regards, Luis Pablo To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html

[abcusers] New version of HARMONY, with improved graphical editing

2004-11-18 Thread Neil Jennings
News Flash A new version of HARMONYis now available a my web site www.greenhedges.com This features drag and drop of chord names from the toolbar onto notes, and also drag and drop of accidentals. Watch out for further improvements in this area, such as floating toolboxes! Neil Neil Jennings wro

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Don Parrish-Bell
I'd be glad to check it out, Neil. Where do I download it from? Don At 12:26 PM 11/17/2004, you wrote: Have you looked at my program HARMONY? It can do a lot of what you want, including points 1,2,3,5,6,8,and 9, and can write the result in abc format I am currently updating the notation entry by

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Neil Jennings
Have you looked at my program HARMONY? It can do a lot of what you want, including points 1,2,3,5,6,8,and 9, and can write the result in abc format I am currently updating the notation entry by adding drag and drop from toolbars - some of this is already in place. Don Parrish-Bell wrote: This is

[abcusers] Re: jaabc2ps question

2004-11-17 Thread hfml
Richard Walker writes: I attempted to print instrument names associated with each voice as follows: V:1 name="Violin Obbligato" (abc code for voice 1 here) V:2 name="Chorale" (abc code for voice 2 here) V:3 name="Violin Harmony" (abc code for voice 3 here) I thought this format is supposed to

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Bernard Hill
--On Friday, November 12, 2004 13:07:06 -0800 Don Parrish-Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is probably off-topic, but I think the people on this list would be most qualified to help me! I have given up on Sibelius G7 as being tolerable as a notation entry tool! It fights everything you t

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Jon Freeman
From: "Phil Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - > offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and > whose author is now sadly deceased. Harmony Assistant would be worth a try as a program to match his requirements. ht

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Phil Taylor
On 17 Nov 2004, at 10:51, Iain (Jethro) Anderson wrote: > xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output The OP wanted graphical input. Not many abc programs will do that - offhand I can only think of MUSE, which is very out of date and whose author is now sadly deceas

Re: [abcusers] Recommendations for graphical entry software

2004-11-17 Thread Iain (Jethro) Anderson
xemacs with abc-mode.el and then e.g. abcm2ps to produce printed output --On Friday, November 12, 2004 13:07:06 -0800 Don Parrish-Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is probably off-topic, but I think the people on this list would be most qualified to help me! I have given up on Sibelius G7 as b

Re: [abcusers] abc2xml

2004-11-15 Thread Neil Jennings
I am currently working on an XML export capability for my program HARMONY, but no promises when it will be ready! Richard Robinson wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 09:33:25PM +0200, Kristian Nørgaard wrote: Does anyone know if abc2xml is a work in progress? I myself miss support fo

Re: [abcusers] how well supported is the overlay operator

2004-11-15 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:40:43 -0200, Hudson Lacerda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I didn't see in abcm2ps-4.8.0 documentation an explicit limit for the >number of temporary voices, or the difference between & and &&. [snip] Yes, there are many lacks in the abcm2ps documentation! There is n

[abcusers] jaabc2ps question

2004-11-14 Thread Richard Walker
I attempted to print instrument names associated with each voice as follows: V:1 name="Violin Obbligato" (abc code for voice 1 here) V:2 name="Chorale" (abc code for voice 2 here) V:3 name="Violin Harmony" (abc code for voice 3 here) I thought this format is supposed to print the name (Chorale fo

Re: [abcusers] how well supported is the overlay operator

2004-11-13 Thread Tom Satter
John Walsh said: > For instance, the 2.0 standard says that one should start > the overlay at a barline. However, this might force one to > extend the segment further than absolutely necessary, > particularly if the barlines are sparse. The longer the segment, > the harder the proofreading.

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