Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-26 Thread Jeff Bigler
I'm catching up on old email here. Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:41:01 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Taylor) Bernard Hill wrote: Why is it so great? What's wrong with z8 (or z6 or whatever is appropriate)? Presumably because you can write | Z5 | and have the program interpret it as

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes John Norvell wrote: In this line BBe2A4 e2 :| Z ||! what does the Z mean? A Rest. But I wonder if it meas a whole bar rest (uppercase) - z8 is more usual assuming L:1/8 So is Z a new symbol for a full bar rest? Bernard

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: So is Z a new symbol for a full bar rest? Uppercase Z means a full bar rest, Z# with # a natural number means multibar rest. This is documented in the abc2midi documentation, together with several other common extensions. Groeten, Irwin Oppenheim

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not in the official standard or the draft extension. How are developers supposed to work with this mish-mash? I missed this one (a single uppercase 'Z' meaning 1 measure rest), but a

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread David Webber
From: Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not in the official standard or the draft extension. How are developers supposed to work with this mish-mash? My feeling exactly. It is severely inhibiting my enthusiasm for writing an

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:04:32AM +0200, Guido Gonzato wrote: On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Good grief, is anyone ever going to put all this lot together? It's not in the official standard or the draft

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-11 Thread Phil Taylor
Bernard Hill wrote: Why is it so great? What's wrong with z8 (or z6 or whatever is appropriate)? Presumably because you can write | Z5 | and have the program interpret it as | z8 | z8 | z8 | z8 | z8 |, thus saving a lot of typing. If it's any consolation, while this has been discussed here I

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-10 Thread Jack Campin
John Norvell wrote: All of the tunes (hundreds) in my private collection use |!(newline) as the line terminator. Attached are a few examples. Which all look a bit odd, as if you'd formatted them carefully for source-readability and then some gremlin intervened to insert random amounts of

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-10 Thread Richard Robinson
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:51:29PM +0100, Jack Campin wrote: John Norvell wrote: I've never heard of using ! in the middle of a line as a terminator and think that we should deprecate that usage. Why? Lots of abc2win users do it and as I've been arguing, a lot more people ought to,

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-10 Thread John Norvell
] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang? John Norvell wrote: All of the tunes (hundreds) in my private collection use |!(newline) as the line terminator. Attached are a few examples. Which all look a bit odd, as if you'd formatted them carefully

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-10 Thread Phil Taylor
John Norvell wrote: Most notation programs are pretty good about figuring out how much music can comfortably fit on a staff. I think by default we should let them do as they please unless they see a |!newline which is our way of saying break because I say so. You could always do that in abc by

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-09 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Gg^fa! g2G2 TA4|F2 f4F2 ABcA |Gg^fa g2G2 TA4|G2 g4 G2 ABcA H:: Notice how easy it is to ignore the linebreaks when reading the source if you aren't interested. That's the point - most of the time you *will*

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-09 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bernard But why would you want to put :: at the end of the tune Bernard when :| is correct notation? Do you really want to see a Bernard repeat-both-ways barline at the end? I think not. In modern notation you wouldn't, but if you

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-09 Thread John Chambers
Bernard Hill writes: | | And a fermata over the final bar has no meaning either. You could put it | over the final note, but a fermata over a barline means a pause here | and that has no meaning at the end, I suggest. Actually, that's not an uncommon thing in printed music, though it is

[abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-08 Thread Guido Gonzato
Hello, I've been unable to find ABC files with the much-talked-about bang (!) for breaking lines. Could any good soul send me some examples? It's for extending abcpp to deal with this beast. Thank you, Guido =8-) -- Guido Gonzato, Ph.D. guido . gonzato at univr . it - Linux System

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-08 Thread John Norvell
Gonzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ABC users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:29 AM Subject: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang? Hello, I've been unable to find ABC files with the much-talked-about bang (!) for breaking lines. Could any good soul send me some examples? It's

Re: [abcusers] ABC examples with bang?

2003-07-08 Thread Jack Campin
I've been unable to find ABC files with the much-talked-about bang (!) for breaking lines. Could any good soul send me some examples? It's for extending abcpp to deal with this beast. Here's another one using it the way I want to. The point of reproducing the original linebreaks isn't just