Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps))

2003-07-05 Thread Jean-Francois Moine
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:52:54 UTC, John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I've discussed with Jef the idea of merging the jcabc2ps extensions into abcm2ps. I'd like to use some of his extensions, too. Maybe we can work on this character-set issue a bit more, and then

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps))

2003-07-05 Thread John Chambers
Jean-Francois Moine writes: | On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 18:52:54 UTC, John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | [snip] | I've discussed with Jef the idea of merging the jcabc2ps | extensions into abcm2ps. I'd like to use some of his | extensions, too. Maybe we can work on this

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics(abc2ps))

2003-07-05 Thread Manuel Reiter
I wonder whether we should keep discussing this on abcusers, or do it in private? A public discussion does have the advantage of keeping others up to date on what we've done, and it invites their comments. I can think of several cases where we might want to bring in the

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics(abc2ps))

2003-07-03 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Manuel Reiter wrote: sorry to answer my own post, but I've gotten a bit further after some reading up of Postscript specs and a lot of guesswork. ;-) By modifying 'subs.c' and 'syms.c' modified from the current (08-Apr-2003) version of jcabc2ps jcabc2ps can handle macron

Re: Kind of solved ([abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps))

2003-07-03 Thread John Chambers
Manuel Reiter writes: | sorry to answer my own post, but I've gotten a bit further after some | reading up of Postscript specs and a lot of guesswork. ;-) I noticed that post, but didn't manage to get around to it yesterday. I just grabbed the latest files and compiled them. After a bit of

Re: Kind of solved ([abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps))

2003-07-03 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John One thing I can see missing right now is the cedille that John Romanian and Polish use on some letters other than C. I John suppose the obvious notation for this would be \,s and \,t. It's called an ogonek (in Polish, anyway),

Re: Kind of solved (Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps))

2003-07-03 Thread John Chambers
I. Oppenheim writes: | On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Manuel Reiter wrote: | | sorry to answer my own post, but I've gotten a bit further after some | reading up of Postscript specs and a lot of guesswork. ;-) | | By modifying 'subs.c' and 'syms.c' modified from the | current (08-Apr-2003) version of

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-02 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi John, | Unfortunately, the hacek and breve accents did not seem to work with my | versions of either abc2ps or jcabc2ps when I tried them yesterday | (guessing, then), they were just rendered as 'u' or 'v' preceding the | would-be-accented letter. I'll have to check versions when I'm back

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi again, but I'd very much appreciate a list of all (or most ;-) ) available accents. Go to http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/abcyclopedia/view.tpl?kw=Special%20characters Great, thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, the hacek and breve accents did not seem to work

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote: : To use accented letter, type the following: : \`a = a with grave [...] : \~n = n with tilde It would be far more partable if ABC software used HTML standards for this and deprecated TeXisms. There's nothing wrong with these TeXisms: they are easy

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Manuel Reiter
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Just no mention of how to get the \ character itself... ? While I can't imagine it being important for too many song lyrics, I'd guess '\\' will or at least should do the trick. Greetings, Manuel To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to:

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: I prefer typing [\'a] over [aacute;] If you prefer the latter, why not write a preprocessor that converts it back to \'a it already exists, I wrote it: abcpp (http://abcplus.sourceforge.net/#abcpp) But it's much simpler to use TeX-like sequences. IMHO.

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I just plop the characters i want in the abc file, like, for example: z D E | G2 G G2 F | E2 E z F G | A2 G (FE) D | F2 E w: v- o et por- que jus- ti- a t- en d'el et de-* rei- tu-ta, I use

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Laura Conrad
Bernard == Bernard Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bernard But this avoids the question of what *is* the character Bernard set? For the Americans £ (pound!) and Euro are extended Bernard characters yet of course for a European accented Bernard characters of all sorts are right

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] uni-frankfurt.de, Manuel Reiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote: Just no mention of how to get the \ character itself... ? While I can't imagine it being important for too many song lyrics, I'd guess '\\' will or at least should do the

RE: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Christophe Declercq
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Bernard Hill Envoyé : mardi 1 juillet 2003 09:56 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps) [...] But this avoids the question of what *is* the character set

RE: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Christophe Declercq wrote: I am a French MS-WINDOWS user but I know that there is several character encoding systems on this planet even for latin alphabets, so I don't find that strange at all. I'm a Dutch ABC user and also do not find it strange at all. But it seems

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, John Chambers wrote: | Unfortunately, the hacek and breve accents did not seem to work with my | versions of either abc2ps or jcabc2ps when I tried them yesterday I believe these hacek and breve accents are only handled by TeX and not by any of the abc2ps clones. I guess

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Bernard Hill writes: | | ... and what's the \?? code for £ anyway ? \163 ;-) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/list s.html (Actually it's not: it's either 156 or 0163 :-) Bernard

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-07-01 Thread Bert Van Vreckem
Jack Campin wrote: I just plop the characters i want in the abc file, like, for example: z D E | G2 G G2 F | E2 E z F G | A2 G (FE) D | F2 E w: v- o et por- que jus- ti- a t- en d'el et de-* rei- tu-ta, I use jcabc2ps to render the file, but any program should be able

[abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi, could anybody give me any pointers aon how to include accented characters in lyrics with abc2ps or any of its clones? I didnt find anything in the current of drafted abc standards or in the abc2ps documentation. I have a file (found somewhere on the net) which includes \'e and produces an

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Manuel Reiter wrote: could anybody give me any pointers aon how to include accented characters in lyrics with abc2ps This should also be addressed in the upcomming ABC standard... To use accented letter, type the following: \`a = a with grave \'a = a with acute \a = a

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Manuel Reiter wrote: could anybody give me any pointers aon how to include accented characters in lyrics with abc2ps This should also be addressed in the upcomming ABC standard... To use accented letter,

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alice Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I just plop the characters i want in the abc file, like, for example: z D E | G2 G G2 F | E2 E z F G | A2 G (FE) D | F2 E w: vê- o et por- que jus- ti- ça tê- en d'el et de-* rei- tu-ta, I use

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread John Chambers
Bernard Hill commented: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim | To use accented letter, type the following: | \`a = a with grave | \'a = a with acute | \a = a with umlaut | \^o = o with circumflex | \~n = n with tilde | \,c = c with cedilla | | | What's wrong with simply putting the

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Guido Gonzato
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, I. Oppenheim wrote: This should also be addressed in the upcomming ABC standard... I have already written a paragraph about it. To use accented letter, type the following: \`a = a with grave \'a = a with acute \a = a with umlaut \^o = o with circumflex \~n = n

Re: [abcusers] Accented characters in lyrics (abc2ps)

2003-06-30 Thread Frank Nordberg
Manuel Reiter wrote: ... but I'd very much appreciate a list of all (or most ;-) ) available accents. Go to http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/abcyclopedia/view.tpl?kw=Special%20characters (that URL is so long it may be broken up by some email client - if so, copy and paste - or you can go to