Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:03:03AM +, John Chambers wrote: Richard Robinson writes: | What about the cases where notes in different octaves | have different accidentals ? I don't see why notes in the key | signature couldn't take the full normal ABC value, with uppercase | and lowercase

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Is K:D exp _b _e ^f different from K:D _b _e ^f ? Where does this come from, has it been mentioned before ? As I have always understood the standard, the accidentals following it *modify* the key sig. So K:D _b _e ^f

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes What about the cases where notes in different octaves have different accidentals ? I personally think that the explicit key signature scheme as it is currently defined in the standard is already quite complex. Making

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:22:12AM +0100, Bernard Hill wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Is K:D exp _b _e ^f different from K:D _b _e ^f ? Where does this come from, has it been mentioned before ? As I have always understood the standard, the

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread John Chambers
Bernard Hill writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], I. Oppenheim | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | | What about the cases where notes in different octaves | have different accidentals ? | | I personally think that the explicit key signature | scheme as it is currently defined in the standard is |

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, John Chambers wrote: In most cases, musicians will be following the rule that accidentals apply in all octaves, so for them it doesn't matter where the key-sig accidentals are drawn. You seem to forget that ABC players also should be able to make sense of the

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-30 Thread John Chambers
I. Oppenheim writes: | | I suggest the following: ... | 2) [K:D oct _B,,, _e'' ^F] will accept octave sensitive key signature definitions. That's wonderful! I'm going to have to find an excuse to do something like this. I'm not too sure of Zouki's example, but with a bit more thought, I'm sure

[abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-29 Thread I. Oppenheim
Dear Abcusers, Thank you for your feedback. Based on your input (both on and off-list) I have made the following modifications to the standard. -- The debated section on Key sigs reads now as follows: By specifying K:none, it is possible to use no key signature at all. The key signatures may

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-29 Thread I. Oppenheim
I've now also updated the ties and slurs section of http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html to give PNG examples of nested slurs. Please have a look to see if you can agree. Groeten, Irwin Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~* Chazzanut Online: http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/ To

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-29 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:08:13PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: -- The debated section on Key sigs reads now as follows: ... The key signatures may be modified by adding accidentals, according to the format K:tonic mode accidentals. For example, K:D Phr ^f would give a key signature with

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-29 Thread John Chambers
Richard Robinson writes: | What about the cases where notes in different octaves | have different accidentals ? I don't see why notes in the key | signature couldn't take the full normal ABC value, with uppercase | and lowercase and , and ' as necessary, so that somebody could | express a key

Re: [abcusers] Changelog of ABC 2.0

2003-07-29 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote: What about the cases where notes in different octaves have different accidentals ? I personally think that the explicit key signature scheme as it is currently defined in the standard is already quite complex. Making distinction between the octave