Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-26 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
John Chambers wrote: "...But one of the real problems with the tonic+mode is that there's a lot of abc out there that simply has it wrong" Sure, but I've seen quite a few tunes with K:D and then every single C in the piece naturalised. In those cases invariably the description is half ri

Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-26 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Phil Taylor wrote: > I think the tonic + mode statement of key was always part of abc, and global > accidentals came along later as a result of discussions on the then abc > developers list. (But I may be wrong - anybody remember what happened before > abc 1.5, which is wher

Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-26 Thread John Chambers
Bryan Creer wrote: | Wendy wrote - | >It would have been great if the original standard had had separate | >fields for key signature and tonic, so that the tonic could be specified | >by itself and the key signature expressed in pure sharps and flats, like | >the extension in John Chambers' jcabc2

Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-26 Thread Phil Taylor
ANewman wrote: >>I was only using it as an example of how things could go >wrong if developers >>felt free to intoduce their own innovations without thinking >through the >The modes-as-key-signatures are part of the 1.6 standard, maybe what >you're saying >is that this originally popped up as par

Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink (and ABC standards processes))

2002-06-26 Thread John Chambers
Laurie writes: | The process is what is properly called "Anarchy" which means there are no | rulers. | | Actually there are rules, probably even some written ones, definitely some | unwritten, probably some written but wrong, but there are no rulers and no | police with any power. This has many c

Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink (and ABC standards processes))

2002-06-26 Thread Laurie (ukonline)
The process is what is properly called "Anarchy" which means there are no rulers. Actually there are rules, probably even some written ones, definitely some unwritten, probably some written but wrong, but there are no rulers and no police with any power. This has many consequences. I suggest we

Re: [abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-26 Thread John Chambers
Bryan Creer writes: | Aaron Newman wrote - | | >The modes-as-key-signatures are part of the 1.6 standard, maybe what you're | >saying is that this originally popped up as part of a tool and was | incorporated into the standard out of necessity. ... | | Just what I've been saying for some time but

[abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-26 Thread Bryancreer
Aaron Newman wrote - >The modes-as-key-signatures are part of the 1.6 standard, maybe what you're >saying is that this originally popped up as part of a tool and was incorporated into >the standard out of necessity. That was certainly my understanding. The prevailing culture amongst abc d

[abcusers] Re: Modes (and iabc & skink)

2002-06-25 Thread Bryancreer
Wendy wrote - >It would have been great if the original standard had had separate >fields for key signature and tonic, so that the tonic could be specified >by itself and the key signature expressed in pure sharps and flats, like >the extension in John Chambers' jcabc2ps allows. It would have bee