Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-18 Thread Tom Keays
This discuss has me thinking that there are two conflicting needs at work here. On one hand, as pointed out by John and others, there are already fields in place where copyright related information can be included. On the other hand, represented by Laura and whoever it was that started off this

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-18 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:39:44 -0500 Tom Keays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip On the other hand, represented by Laura and whoever it was that started off this thread, there is a desire to format the output of abc files in a specific way so as to include the copyright information in a manner

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-17 Thread Jack Campin
| With abc2ps, you can use \ followed by a 3-digit octal value to get | chars that might not be on your keyboard. The most common use I've | seen of this has been \251, which is the code for the copyright | symbol ('c' in a circle) in most of the ISO 8859-1 char sets. | Not octal

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-17 Thread Steven K. Mariner
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Taylor) Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:38:55 + [...] But why octal? The last time I used base-8 for anything was when I used a Digital PDP 8 computer with a twelve bit word length, and octal made sense there as each octal digit correspods to three

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-17 Thread John Chambers
Jack Campin comments: | | Macs don't use ISO-8859 as their native character set and don't claim | to, so it doesn't matter what the standard says; there is nothing in | the ABC spec that gives 8859 any special status, so it's irrelevant. | (I think the Mac character set is older). The copyright

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-17 Thread Laura Conrad
John == John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John This is the main advantage of that little circle-c in a C or Z line. John In the C line, it says that the composition itself is copyright by John the composer; in the Z line, it says that the transcription (but not John

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-17 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 10:57:56PM +, Jack Campin wrote: Same with copyright information (right now I use %% copyright). We haven't got that one yet. Use N, maybe? It would be handy to have something that would prompt staff-notation generators to put a c-in-a-circle sign in the

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread ulf
Am Samstag, 15. März 2003 23:57 schrieb Jack Campin: What would be the officially correct header (if any) to indicate which record a transcribtion is made from (Z, S, D?) If by record you mean a rotating bit of plastic, D. *But* you might want to be verbally explicit about what you mean,

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread Phil Taylor
John Chambers wrote: With abc2ps, you can use \ followed by a 3-digit octal value to get chars that might not be on your keyboard. The most common use I've seen of this has been \251, which is the code for the copyright symbol ('c' in a circle) in most of the ISO 8859-1 char sets.

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:51:14 +0100 ulf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So, what would you actually like to write in your abc files? I see your point, but... I'm basically talking about where to put the copyright statement on the bottom of the first page of original sheet music of musical tunes.

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread Phil Taylor
Just noticed that \251 in octal is equal to 169 decimal. (but I'm sure everybody's going to tell me that:-) But why octal? The last time I used base-8 for anything was when I used a Digital PDP 8 computer with a twelve bit word length, and octal made sense there as each octal digit correspods

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread Henrik Norbeck
For instance I take the melody for a jazz standard from the original sheetmusic, which says something like Copyright 1954 by Chappel Co, Inc. Copyright renewed in the footer of the first page I would write that in the B: field (for book). Something like B:The Best Jazz Fake Book, 1954

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor wrote: | John Chambers wrote: | With abc2ps, you can use \ followed by a 3-digit octal value to get | chars that might not be on your keyboard. The most common use I've | seen of this has been \251, which is the code for the copyright | symbol ('c' in a circle) in most

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-16 Thread Jack Campin
Same with copyright information (right now I use %% copyright). We haven't got that one yet. I am wondering what you actually want to express by using these fields. Perhaps we should try some examples: So. Now in those two examples: What kind of copyright are you after? [legal stuff] ABC

[abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-15 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi What would be the officially correct header (if any) to indicate which record a transcribtion is made from (Z, S, D?) Same with copyright information (right now I use %% copyright). Thanks in advance... -- peace, love harmony Atte To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to:

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-15 Thread Henrik Norbeck
What would be the officially correct header (if any) to indicate which record a transcribtion is made from (Z, S, D?) Same with copyright information (right now I use %% copyright). D: for discography to indicate which record the tune is from. Concerning copyright info, what kind of copyright

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-15 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 23:00:27 +0100 Henrik Norbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D: for discography to indicate which record the tune is from. Ok, I'll start using that then... Concerning copyright info, what kind of copyright do you mean? For instance I take the melody for a jazz standard from

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-15 Thread Jack Campin
What would be the officially correct header (if any) to indicate which record a transcribtion is made from (Z, S, D?) If by record you mean a rotating bit of plastic, D. *But* you might want to be verbally explicit about what you mean, as some people use D to reference recordings of a tune,

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-15 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:57:56 + Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the officially correct header (if any) to indicate which record a transcribtion is made from (Z, S, D?) If by record you mean a rotating bit of plastic, D. I do... *But* you might want to be verbally

Re: [abcusers] source and copyright

2003-03-15 Thread John Chambers
Jack writes: | | Same with copyright information (right now I use %% copyright). | | We haven't got that one yet. Use N, maybe? It would be handy | to have something that would prompt staff-notation generators to | put a c-in-a-circle sign in the right place (or sound file creators | to insert