Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2015-12-31 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
What I mean by the DOM going away is accessibility test tools, today, don't get access to the Web Components DOM. It is hidden. This is a gap. Also, if you were to traverse the IE DOM you would not reach the Web Components DOM. So, we have a gap here too strategically. I understand that web

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2015-12-31 Thread Dominic Mazzoni via Accessibility-ia2
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: > What I mean by the DOM going away is accessibility test tools, today, > don't get access to the Web Components DOM. It is hidden. This is a gap. > Have you had an experience with a specific testing tool? If any

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2015-12-31 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Dominic, We can look at adding this work as part of ARIA 2.0 and the common accessibility api work for browsers. The need for this goes beyond screen readers. Alternative input solutions will need this too. I am trying to wrap ARIA 1.1 up on time so that we can do all the long-needed

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] aria-colcount and aria-rowcount mapping, again

2015-12-31 Thread Dominic Mazzoni via Accessibility-ia2
On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:51 PM Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: > Hi Dominic, > > We can look at adding this work as part of ARIA 2.0 and the common > accessibility api work for browsers. > I don't think anything I'm asking for is a change in the ARIA spec. I'm basically okay