On 30/04/2015 10:55 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
if you've already made this choice
for ATK,
FWIW, it was made years ago and by several developers
I still think doing this with descriptions might be better, but I do at
least follow the reasoning behind this decision. It's worth noting that
we do
On 04/29/2015 08:35 PM, James Teh wrote:
> Fair enough. We've tried to keep IA2 and ATK fairly closely synced to
> unify things/make things easier, but if you've already made this choice
> for ATK,
FWIW, it was made years ago and by several developers (which I point out
simply because this isn't
On 30/04/2015 10:26 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
Good point. There's an alternative, though: the UA could expose it as a
description only if there is no value. Once there is a value, it isn't
exposed. If the value is cleared, it gets exposed again.
And UAs would also have to emit a signal to indic
On 04/29/2015 06:37 PM, James Teh wrote:
> On 30/04/2015 3:16 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
>> It's possible to have a name and description and placeholder.
> True, but it's also possible to have multiple other things which would
> normally get mapped to name or description. That's why we have
> prece
On 30/04/2015 3:16 AM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
It's possible to have a name and description and placeholder.
True, but it's also possible to have multiple other things which would
normally get mapped to name or description. That's why we have
precedence rules. :)
Beyond that, because the plac
Hey James.
On 04/29/2015 07:34 AM, James Teh wrote:
> Pardon my lack of awareness here; I'm coming into this discussion cold
> and am not part of the W3C working groups. Feel free to point me at a
> thread or something. I'm curious as to why placeholder shouldn't be
> exposed as the description b
I support the idea that the browser should find a best match for accessible
name and description. Btw, current version of HTML a11y spec agrees on it
[1]. After all there's backward compatibility issue If placeholder is
exposed leaving accessible name blank.
[1]
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/h
On 29/04/2015 12:08 AM, Joseph Scheuhammer wrote:
a few questions is aria-placeholder ever to be used as fallback for
accname/description calculation?
My position is that, yes, aria-placeholder text can be used as a
fallback for a name, but the decision should be left to the AT. The
placeholder
