Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Spreadsheet editor: the sign ' makes numbers be ignored

2021-02-11 Thread Marina Latini

On 11.02.2021 16:35, Christophe Strobbe wrote:

Hi,

As far as I know, using the single quote to force a spreadsheet to
treat numbers as strings is a feature, not a bug. Perhaps it would be
helpful to make such strings easier to find, but removing this feature
will probably cause problems for people who rely on it.



yep, agree.
as a side note, strings are usually aligned on the left side while 
numbers are aligned on the right per default.


There's a tool from "View -> Value Highlighting" that can highlight 
numbers, strings, dates with different colours.
In any case this doesn't completely solve the problem when there's one 
cell content mismatching the format in a much bigger formula.


MS Excel provides a visual warning on the cell with a different data 
type than the rest included in the formula.

An approach like this is more visible and user friendly.

My 2 cents,
Marina



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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Spreadsheet editor: the sign ' makes numbers be ignored

2021-02-11 Thread Christophe Strobbe
Hi,

As far as I know, using the single quote to force a spreadsheet to treat 
numbers as strings is a feature, not a bug. Perhaps it would be helpful to make 
such strings easier to find, but removing this feature will probably cause 
problems for people who rely on it.

Best regards,

Christophe Strobbe


> On 10 February 2021 at 20:42 earthballoon  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey there,
> i just spent an hour trying to fix a broken calculation result and almost
> went crazy.
> The issue turned out to be a number with a --> ' <--- in front of it. That
> is not visible, but only in the edit field of the cell.
> In my case it led to a different result than in my accounting software, I
> was summing up a bunch of cells.
> 
> Before I had switched from English to German "Locale" settings, so that
> numbers would be displayed with a comma instead of point. I don't know how
> this sign got before the number, but in any case it led to wrong calculating
> result.
> 
> I consider this very dangerous, since I rely on the results for pretty
> important stuff
> And hope that the community picks this up in some way! ;)
> thanks, peace
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Spreadsheet editor: the sign ' makes numbers be ignored

2021-02-10 Thread Heiko Tietze
Made a similar but opposite request in 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140050. Numbers are treated 
as text with a trailing apostrophe (and converted to negative when bracketed). 
All spreadsheet tools have this well-known behavior for sake of accessibility. 
By default, you see numbers right-aligned while text is left.


Some kind of data type highlighter could be handy, OTOH. What I have in mind is 
a command that toggles all formatting off and shows text with a certain 
background color, numbers, formulas etc.


On 10.02.21 20:42, earthballoon wrote:

Hey there,
i just spent an hour trying to fix a broken calculation result and almost
went crazy.
The issue turned out to be a number with a --> ' <--- in front of it. That
is not visible, but only in the edit field of the cell.
In my case it led to a different result than in my accounting software, I
was summing up a bunch of cells.

Before I had switched from English to German "Locale" settings, so that
numbers would be displayed with a comma instead of point. I don't know how
this sign got before the number, but in any case it led to wrong calculating
result.

I consider this very dangerous, since I rely on the results for pretty
important stuff
And hope that the community picks this up in some way! ;)
thanks, peace



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[libreoffice-accessibility] Spreadsheet editor: the sign ' makes numbers be ignored

2021-02-10 Thread earthballoon
Hey there,
i just spent an hour trying to fix a broken calculation result and almost
went crazy.
The issue turned out to be a number with a --> ' <--- in front of it. That
is not visible, but only in the edit field of the cell.
In my case it led to a different result than in my accounting software, I
was summing up a bunch of cells.

Before I had switched from English to German "Locale" settings, so that
numbers would be displayed with a comma instead of point. I don't know how
this sign got before the number, but in any case it led to wrong calculating
result.

I consider this very dangerous, since I rely on the results for pretty
important stuff
And hope that the community picks this up in some way! ;)
thanks, peace



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