[AI] Moderator: RE: 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
All Keeping the thread closed, may I add, it is also a duty for all of us to interact with the blind students, teachers on a regular basis and convey this message loud and clear that the negativity caused by cheating is far greater to us than the able bodied. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: 20 March 2015 11:42 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out. Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal experience. I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so. Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk. Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam. I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to some extent. Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are just twelfth pass. If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first place. And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally incompetent for the exam. Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years. If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him. Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets stereotyped. Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality. On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing the buck. thank you. On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident. So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks. I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the visually impaired though i personally disagree. we get what we give. its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the upliftment of the standard
[AI] Need contact details of persons working in Bank of Baroda
Hi folks, I need a favour from your side. I am not able to access Bank of Baroda online portal. JAWS is not reading the edit boxes properly. So, I would like to know persons working in Bank of Baroda. Please leave a reply to my personal mail ID, arunfamily1...@gmail.com Expecting a positive reply very soon. Thank you in anticipation. -- Believe in WORK not in LUCK! Most of all, trust in God but don't be dependent on Him. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Moderator: RE: 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
All This has been a useful interaction, I agree with George, our focus should be concentrated towards improving the situation and taking to a higher level. We had a fruitful discussion, it is time to call of this thread. Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: 20 March 2015 06:21 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. Yes the situation is grim. We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be on bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values that do not help in the long run. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Misbah Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been employed in public/private enterprises? The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%, Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public and 0.3% in private sector they are employed. Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don’t understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are doing. One does not know how much competent and capable few blind students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our community. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted. then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with regard to my statement on self-proclaimed activists, you know very well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that. thank you. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks. I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the visually impaired though i personally disagree. we get what we give. its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out. Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal experience. I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so. Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk. Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam. I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to some extent. Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are just twelfth pass. If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first place. And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally incompetent for the exam. Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years. If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him. Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets stereotyped. Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality. On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing the buck. thank you. On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident. So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks. I respect the argument on negative inhibition of the teachers on the visually impaired though i personally disagree. we get what we give. its up to the visually impaired to break his or her back to dump the false notion that prevails among the majority. its difficult, but not impossible. its absolutely good to defend the malpractice of the visually impaired under the circumstantial blockades, but such defense proves that all the visually impaired are left with no options but to malpractice. moreover, such notion would contaminate the sincere visually impaired candidate who believes in him or herself in the upliftment of the standard of living instead of opting for shortcuts by citing the blockades. for example, during my mains exam this year, one visually impaired candidate has come from Bangalore. first paper whent on with little hustle and bustle to him. from the second paper, he has begun to target the woman who was writing. the invigilator found this. now what we expect him to do to that unprepared aspirant at that time? is it fair to expect the invigilator to consider the aspects of reformation because the aspirant has no options? or the invigilator should reprimand the aspirant. undoubtedly as a co-aspirant, i will opt for reprimand
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
I second your opinion sir. the system that deals with the visually impaired stands fragile. although today is late, it is better late than never to move towards the accomplaishment of smooth flow of system not only in education but in every aspect that determines personal life and liberty. for that, we must creat awareness among us, then only we can collaborate with the sighted and non-disabled society. computerization of exams alone not a fair solution, but mandating computer training from the primary schools of the visually challenged special Schools would be the best solution for the future progress where computerization of exams can be proliferated. apart from that, those who enroll themselves in a visually impaired schools must be made to learn Braille. besides computer and another person to write, Braille seems to me the most apt, independent mode of writing exams. I feel sad to see the significance of Braille going down among the youngsters like us. I always consider the visually impaired who don't know Braille as not only a person of physical Blindness but communication blindness as well. lets work for a change in the system, thank you. On 3/20/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Yes the situation is grim. We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be on bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values that do not help in the long run. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Misbah Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been employed in public/private enterprises? The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%, Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public and 0.3% in private sector they are employed. Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don't understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are doing. One does not know how much competent and capable few blind students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our community. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted. then you are right, there is no end in talking about the post. but, I think we can surely talk about the aftermath. unquestionably the article of her could have had some impacts among us on us, but the bitter truth is, she stands true in expressing what she wanted. with regard to my statement on self-proclaimed activists, you know very well and I know for sure that, it was not attributed to you. it was justa generalized insinuation to increase the severety of the indictment nothing else. I know what have you done for the betterment of us in your capacity and I wholeheartedly respect that. thank you. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to propagate the
Re: [AI] Chennai: Talks End Visually Challenged's Stir
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/Talks-End-Visually-Challengeds-Stir/2015/03/19/article2720438.ece On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: You can arrest them,but can not kill their spirit to fight for their rights granted by the law. State is becoming repressive towards us: let us all become more alert and vigilent. These protesters have cleared exams and eligibility but where is job? who is responsible for their joblessness? such questions should make us thoughtful and help us in deciding how we respond to the state. Recently I met with two prominent government officials in Delhi at IIC, and they informed government is not at all willing to employ totally blind people. and here some of friends are raising questions about the immoral means adopted by blind examinees? http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/56-visually-challenged-persons-arrested/article7009929.ece -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Roshan Rajan no more!
very shocking news, he is my best friend, I still can't believe, he oftenly call me for any technical help. he was very talented musician. feeling very sad. May his soul RIP. On 3/19/15, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni eren...@gmail.com wrote: Really a shocking news. I also have the opertunity to enjoy his and his brother Ritwik Rajan's singing talent through television. May the family have the courage to barehis loss. Renuka. On 3/19/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Just received a call from Mrs Lata Rajan, Roshan Rajan's mother that Roshan died last Sunday. He was grossly over weight. Roshan was an extremely talented singer and had performed at various platforms. I happened to know him quite closely and was truly shocked when I got the news. We will miss his wonderful singing and his warm friendship. May his soul RIP CEO Score Foundation 17/107, LGF, Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 110024 Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396 Mob: 91 9810934040 Email: geo...@eyeway.org Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org Skype: georgeabraham13 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
Truth be said, What ever the writer has expressed in her post is the reality of not only VI but every classes of students. If you allow me to classify students and examination takers. prima facie her claims and observations rightly point at dishonest atitude of VI. If we excogitate on the reasons for dishonest means employed in exams. The writer is right but her point of view is a distorted reality which lacks the understanding of ground realities. Let me ask this, even are we in a position to discuss/debate on this issue? When basic fesility leading up to the exams, pre-exam/ learning/ access to books and study material, equal treatment for all VI etc etc issues are not sorted. I as a student of law not only just have to buy books and read but also have get it scanned and edited which is a conscientious process. Which is in addition to other concerns pertaining to disability which I need to address. I'm not justifying use of dishonest means, for them we have law and established procedure of law to deal with it. It would be against the natural justice if we not look at the issues which are incidental and ancillary to examination. We as disability activist have to redefine the principal of survival of the fittest. We need to act as a support system and have to ensure the transaction from treditional approach to modern technical approach should be smooth. A haphazard and slapdash transaction will be precursor to discontent among our felas. Arjun M On 3/20/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: I second your opinion sir. the system that deals with the visually impaired stands fragile. although today is late, it is better late than never to move towards the accomplaishment of smooth flow of system not only in education but in every aspect that determines personal life and liberty. for that, we must creat awareness among us, then only we can collaborate with the sighted and non-disabled society. computerization of exams alone not a fair solution, but mandating computer training from the primary schools of the visually challenged special Schools would be the best solution for the future progress where computerization of exams can be proliferated. apart from that, those who enroll themselves in a visually impaired schools must be made to learn Braille. besides computer and another person to write, Braille seems to me the most apt, independent mode of writing exams. I feel sad to see the significance of Braille going down among the youngsters like us. I always consider the visually impaired who don't know Braille as not only a person of physical Blindness but communication blindness as well. lets work for a change in the system, thank you. On 3/20/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Yes the situation is grim. We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be on bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values that do not help in the long run. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Misbah Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been employed in public/private enterprises? The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%, Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public and 0.3% in private sector they are employed. Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don't understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are doing. One does not know how much competent and capable few blind students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from other blind fellow itself doo hope that this self-blaming attitude will amend its way neither it may results mutual suicide within our community. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for specifying the period in which the article has been posted. then you are right, there is no end in talking
[AI] Fwd: [NVDA] Welcome to NVDA 2015 tutorials: basics modules finished
-- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 16:34:46 -0700 Subject: [NVDA] Welcome to NVDA 2015 tutorials: basics modules finished To: n...@freelists.org Hi all, I'm delighted to announce the completion of basic modules for 2015 NVDA tutorials (now officially named Welcome to NVDA 2015). The entire set, again in nine parts, will be done by early April. The tutorial can be found at: http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/ Changes in the second edition: * Part 1 has been updated to include recently changed system requirements, particularly for those using older operating systems. Also added Windows 8.1 as a supported version of Windows. * Also in part 1, the last section and start and exiting NVDA now includes procedures to restart NVDA via the new exit options combo box introduced last year. * An introductory segment on touchscreen commands has been added in part 2. * Part 3 has been rewritten to integrate review modes and 2013 laptop keyboard layout commands. Some of the segments now have new examples. * Added a segment in part 3 to talk about and demonstrate touchscreen commands. I'm sure we have some new users onboard. If that's you, I'd like to recommend that you listen to these basic modules (especially the first two parts) to listen to NVDA in action. For those curious about what review modes are or to get a feel for touchscreen and mouse commands, part 3 would be the tutorial you might be interested in. I'll upload the next few chapters in the coming days. Cheers, Joseph -- Warm Regards Bhavya Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype id : bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Accessibility of Opera-Orackle
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Re: [AI] need help regarding downloading the contents from youtube
Hi, you can try 4k downloadeer you can download it from https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader You just need to copy the url to the software and hit download button Have fun, Ajay On 20-Mar-2015, at 8:34 am, raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote: i mostly download any files which is on the youtube by using the traditional way. i'm still using IDM on my computer, and 10youtube on my phone for downloading the contents from youtube. there is an exelent hindi tutorial regarding sql (structure queery language) on youtube but it has been divided in to several videos. almost 40 videos are there related to this sql topic in this play list of youtube, and i want to download all. so is there any tricks or programs for computer by using i could able to grasp all the videos all at once? waiting your positive response Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Voice Vision Scholarship 2015-16
Voice Vision Scholarship 2015-16 Voice Vision takes great pleasure in announcing its scholarship for the academic year 2015-16! Scholarship is a financial assistance which would be offered to a deserving undergraduate person with visual impairment who has completed his / her class 10th (SSC) and is pursuing higher studies (Graduation or Diploma from a recognized institute) in India. The aim of the scholarship is to facilitate the deserving student to pursue the career path of his/her choice. Eligibility criteria: Candidates applying for the Voice Vision Scholarship should fulfil the following criteria, Candidate should have secured 60% marks or more in class 10 or 55% or more in class 12. Candidate should have passed class 10th in the academic years of 2012-2013 or 2013-2014. Preference will be given to students pursuing unconventional career paths such as BMS, BBA, BMM or physiotherapy, journalism etc. However, other needy and deserving students from conventional streams would also be considered. The candidate should be visually impaired (Blind / low vision). The annual family income of the candidate should be less than Rs. 2,00,000. Application Process: Interested candidates who fulfil the eligibility criteria mentioned above are requested to either fill the prescribed form online or download and print the form and attach with the below mentioned enclosures and send to us by post/hand delivery/courier to the following postal address, Ms. Sushmeetha B. Bubna Voice Vision 2015-16 Scholarship application, 103/ 104 'A' Wing, Synthofine Estate, Behind Virwani Industrial Estate, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai 400063 Maharashtra, India. All documents should reach our office before 10th April 2015. The final decision will be made solely by the selection committee after scrutinizing the documents submitted and no further correspondence would be entertained. Kindly note, only application forms and documents that reach us before the specified deadline will be considered. Documents Required for Evaluation: The following documents need to be sent on the above mentioned address along with the duly filled application form. 2 passport size photographs. Photo copy of Disability certificate issued by a competent Government authority. Photo copy of Mark sheet of last exam passed along with photo copy of 10th / 12th mark sheet. A short self-description of the candidate. A summary of the candidate’s non-academic achievements (Extra curricular activities) along with photo copies of certificates or medals of both participation winning. Photo copy of Admission fee receipt and/or identity card for current course if any. Income certificate. References from minimum 3 individuals known to the candidate. One of them should be the school / college teacher or principal. Kindly note: Only self-attested photo copies of the required documents along with the application form and photographs should be sent. The institute will not be responsible for returning/ safely preserving any originals that may be sent. Kindly fill in the online application form or download and print the same and attach all the required documents along with it and send it to the above mentioned address. Make sure that your application reaches our office before 10th April 2015. Post Selection, the deserving candidate needs to specify in which of the following ways, wish to avail The scholarship amount of Rs. 5,000/-. * Cheque / DD directly issued to the institution / college on behalf of the student. * If the student wants to utilize the amount for any educational material or assistive devices himself / herself, then he/she should submit Either: College / institute prospectus, fee receipt or any other document stating the fees and payment details. Or: Purchase receipt of the study material or assistive devices. Submitting the original purchase receipts or fees receipt along with a photocopy to Voice Vision shall be mandatory. Scholarship details: The scholarship will be valid for the academic year of 2015-2016 only. The selected candidate will be awarded the following, A scholarship certificate DD/ Cheque of Rs. 5,000/-in favour of college / institute or as per the submitted purchase receipt. For any further queries please feel free to contact Sushmeetha or Prakash on +91 22 4040, or email us on cont...@voicevision.in. Application Form Kindly click here to fill in the Application form online Kindly share this information within your known network help us to reach out to more more students. Best Regards, Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director Voice Vision 103, Synthofine Estate,’ A’- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai – 400 063. Work Phone: +91 22 4040 │ Fax: +91 22 40400123 │ Hand Phone: +91 9820566010 Email:
Re: [AI] Excel question.
Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Excel question.
hi, Perhaps the first formula at b5 is wrong. It should be, round(if(b450, b4, 50)*1,0) On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at:
Re: [AI] Excel question.
Hi, Please see the corrected formula. =ROUND(IF(B4=50,50*0.1),0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:06 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. hi, Perhaps the first formula at b5 is wrong. It should be, round(if(b450, b4, 50)*1,0) On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P.
Re: [AI] Info required regarding net banking of PNB.
Thanks Sir! On 3/19/15, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: I can't claim full accessibility, but you can use it with jaws on IE and firefox comfortably. I did not try NVDA with it. sometimes jawa run time JRE delays it response, so, better is to first check its installation on your system. - Original Message - From: sona Equality is our goal fightingfo...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:57 AM Subject: [AI] Info required regarding net banking of PNB. Hi friends! Let me know that net banking of PNB is accessible for VI or not because I want to take the same. Thanks Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Live Audio of Last Quartar Final Match of Cricket World-Cup
Hello friends! Have a nice day to all of you. Friends, here's the live audio link for the last quartar final match of present cricket World-Cup being played between New Zealand and West Indies at wellington, New Zealand. Once you hit Enter on the given link, move forward with the down arrow and click on Hindi under the heading of Choose Audio to listen running commentary in Hindi. http://matchcentre.starsports.com/cricket/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015-164/174024/live-audio With regards B. R. Nautial Mobile: +91-9915073368 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Excel question.
Hi Him Prasad Gautam, Yes, Completely agree with you. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Have a nice day! Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:06 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. hi, Perhaps the first formula at b5 is wrong. It should be, round(if(b450, b4, 50)*1,0) On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent
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Hi Gautam and Mukesh, my requirement is similar to income tax calculation. Upto 5 lakhs its 10% and above 5 lakhs its 20%. That is in my case it is, upto 5 lakhs its 50 thousand and for the remaining value that is 7 lakhs minus 5 lakhs = 2 lakhs 20% = 40 thousand. Thanks friends. On 21/03/2015, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please see the corrected formula. =ROUND(IF(B4=50,50*0.1),0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:06 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. hi, Perhaps the first formula at b5 is wrong. It should be, round(if(b450, b4, 50)*1,0) On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your
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hi, As I understood Mr. Giri's conditionality; the value at b5 will not be zero if the value at b4 is less than 50. The value at b5 must be the ten percentage of b4 up to 50. Is it not so? However, the formula Mr. Mukesh suggested last time gives zero value if the value at cell b4 is less than 50. Further more, if my understanding is wrong and there will be zero value at b5 if the value at b4 is less than 50; then there is no need to write the formula as it is written. at cell b5, it becomes a fixed value of either zero or 5. Hence instead, =if(b4=50, 5) is the correct formula. No need to write round or 50*.1 statements any more for the known fixed values. If my understanding of Mr. Giri's conditionality is correct, use the formula instead. =round(if(b450, 50, b4)*.1, 0) This formula will give the ten percentage value of cell b4 up to the possible higher value of 5. Enjoy. On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please see the corrected formula. =ROUND(IF(B4=50,50*0.1),0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:06 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. hi, Perhaps the first formula at b5 is wrong. It should be, round(if(b450, b4, 50)*1,0) On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails,
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hi giri, My understanding is exact as you stated now. use the last formula which I have suggested. Instead of calculating the possible two values at cell b5 and cell b6 separately; the sum of the both conditions can be written at a single cell too. For this write as: =if(b450, 5+round((b4-50)*.2,0), round(b4*.1,0)) Enjoy. On 3/21/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: hi, As I understood Mr. Giri's conditionality; the value at b5 will not be zero if the value at b4 is less than 50. The value at b5 must be the ten percentage of b4 up to 50. Is it not so? However, the formula Mr. Mukesh suggested last time gives zero value if the value at cell b4 is less than 50. Further more, if my understanding is wrong and there will be zero value at b5 if the value at b4 is less than 50; then there is no need to write the formula as it is written. at cell b5, it becomes a fixed value of either zero or 5. Hence instead, =if(b4=50, 5) is the correct formula. No need to write round or 50*.1 statements any more for the known fixed values. If my understanding of Mr. Giri's conditionality is correct, use the formula instead. =round(if(b450, 50, b4)*.1, 0) This formula will give the ten percentage value of cell b4 up to the possible higher value of 5. Enjoy. On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please see the corrected formula. =ROUND(IF(B4=50,50*0.1),0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:06 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. hi, Perhaps the first formula at b5 is wrong. It should be, round(if(b450, b4, 50)*1,0) On 3/21/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi Giri Prasad, For 10% in b5: =ROUND(B4*0.1,0) For 20% in b6: =ROUND(IF(B450,B4-50)*0.2,0) Hope this will solve your problem. Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 7:13 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Excel question. Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Re: [AI] Excel question.
hi, In your case, just write the percentage calculation formula as in Mr. surya's example at both B5 and b6 cell. However, you have to use the validation feature to generate the value in either cell at one time. In your case, If one cell has value, the other must be blank and vice versa. If you want one cell with the desired value and the other with zero value, then no need to use the validation option. On 3/20/15, Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode
[AI] Alert from Eyeway
Hi All: One post for Visually Impaired as Office Assistant (Multipurpose) in Purvanchal Bank, Gorakhpur, U.P . Qualification: Degree in any discipline from a recognized University or its equivalent. Essential qualification: Proficiency in local language. Desirable: Knowledge of Computer skills. The Interview will be held at the Gorakhpur centre. Only candidate willing to serve anywhere in the operational area of the bank should apply. Application fee is Rs. 20/- . Apply online. Last date 31st March. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs -- ** Best,Binni Kumari|Programme Manager Helpdesk! Score Foundation 17/107, Basement, Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 110024, INDIA. Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm) Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 26472582/81 Email:bi...@eyeway.org Websites: scorefoundation.org.in http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/ www.eyeway.org ** http://www.youtube.com/user/eyewayindiahttps://twitter.com/friendsofeyeway https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Excel question.
Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
In every community, there are good/bad persons. The Visually Impaired are no exception. Although it is better not to use unfair means during examinations, But most of us do use such means if we get opportunities. When everybody cheats if there is a scope for the same, why the visually impaired should be blamed. They have their own set of problems and they also use unfair means to get promoted. When others cheat, most of the times, it does not come out. But when the visually impaired cheat, at least their writers would surely know. This is the difference. Cheating is a general problem during examinations and everybody has different experiences to share. Let us leave it on this point that it is for the individual to decide as to what path he/she chooses in life. Let the candidate decide whether or not he would use the unfair means. Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 11:42 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out. Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal experience. I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so. Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk. Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam. I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to some extent. Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are just twelfth pass. If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first place. And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally incompetent for the exam. Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years. If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him. Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets stereotyped. Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality. On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing the buck. thank you. On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident. So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are ready to accept the appreciation from the outer world (non-disabled), we must also be ready to intra-community cleansing. undoubtedly the so-called whistleblowers of the visually impaired deserves salute because they are the one who stands empathetic while the so-called self-proclaimed activists and the driving force of the future of the visually impaired stand sympathetic in addressing the basic drawbacks. I respect the argument
[AI] Mumbai: Partially blind drummer turns entrepreneur, sets up orchestra group
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/partially-blind-drummer-turns-entrepreneur-sets-up-orchestra-group/16077172 -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Excel question.
Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at
Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted suicide
Friends Can yu share more instances of documented humiliation of blind students in universities/schools? I need such cases for a paper. On 7/24/14, Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote: at Preeti Ma'am: You had said in your Mail that you would ask your friend to read out what is written on the black board. it works in high school or after fifth grade. what if it is in second standard? even your classmates will be just starting to learn to read and write. how will they dictate? and if math or science has to be lernt, at the primary level, you definitely have to take help of any sighted person who is dedicated or who trains the blind. and only if your base is strong you can do College and engineering level math because I used to do most of the things mentally at BCA. and from the very beginning if you arrange for a special teacher, how can a child mingle with his/her Friends? when my sisters were in class 1 and 2, they sat together with friends and learnt all the concepts. if you teach and learn from others your concepts will be much stronger. it can be done from the very beginning in a blind school and is not practical in a regular school. now if I teach Math or Programming my sighted friends even by telling, they will understand because they are older. and also Ma'am you told that you would play with your friends at even at primary level. I guess you had little sight. if he/she is a totally blind person, every thing right from walking has to be taught. and if you want to play with your friends at second or third grade, again you need a dedicated person to teach you. if you never mingle with children and right from the beginning you are taught every thing by special teacher, what is the point of inclusion at primary level? its just that you are in a regular school but treatedd specially. I am 100% sure that other sighted friends will get totally different experience in the school because they learn with other children. and I am not telling that every blind person has to study full schooling in blind schools. even this is wrong. In case I would study my high school in a blind school, I think I would not come to Science field atall. because many people drop out math after 7th grade. and also if you are only with Blind then you behave different from the sighted world for example, few people turn their entire face at some one who is speaking to you. But my mom tells that others just look at the person and not turn entirely to the person. so I have learnt body language like sighted. all this can be developed after primary school. so I think that having education atleast till 5th or 7th grade in a blind school is necessary. Inclusive education is present in countries like germany, usa etc. one of the relative of my Lecturer was Blind and she was studying in USA. from the very beginning she was in a regular school. but she felt different because of all the special care that was given to her from childhood. because of this, she would not speak to mostly anyone except to her special instructors. she felt that it would be nice if she would do atleast primary in a blind school. even her blind friends in other regular schools felt the same. In my college, I had developed a software with few sighted students from Germany. and one of my german friend too had the same opinion . On 7/24/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: i started my education in blind school and up to my 8th standard in my leadership we have defeated many reputed regular public schools in various competitions on the occasion of republic day celebration. Please note that music competitions are not included in the statement. - Original Message - From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted suicide Vidhya has provided a nuanced account of experiences in regular school which is intentionally underrated and avoided by proponents of inclusive education. I hope many students can narrate similar stories. Friends it is time we should speak up and write real experiences so that experiences are documented and serious discourse is initiated with the policy-maker for policy intervention. Any idea if not discussed and debated adequately and hastely promoted for actuation; may lead to serious ramification. Regular schools can never make you feel equal not because you are really not equal but just think about one terminology adopted by governments in their policy documents. that is CSN equals (Children with 'special' needs. All recquirements of a disabled child are 'special' which will always make him/her special for pity and charity from non-special people. I hope many more students who are members here will share
Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted suicide
Hey Folks and mere mitron, Did Chakradhar study in an integrated school? I won't be surprised, but I am sorry for him. Hope he recovers soon. Why do we need to take an extreme position? I am from a so called special school for blind and my stories are as joyous as Harry Potter’s Hogwarts. Why can’t we have a weekly or monthly or bi-annual hostel where ‘equals’ children study, play, fight etc. and no need for special-inclusive-disabled friendly adjustments are required at the hostel level at least? They will feel world for them when they come back to the hostel. I am sorry to draw a Harry Potter example again, but have you seen how Harry Potter and other wizards feel ‘DIFFERENT’ (in blocks) even though they can do magic? So in my opinion, they can stay together but can move out to study in a mainstream school. But still concerted efforts will be required to really integrate we special children with sighted ones as I have seen in colleges where significant number of blind students study and remain in their blind community largely. The only regret I have from studying from a special school that it did not offer me an option to study mathematics from 8th standard onwards. But I have sweetest of memories of cricket matches, blind games like hand-cricket, music, Braille cards and of course that special language that no outsider understands. I am sure Ketan will understand that On a serious note, I have had the misfortune to see least number of youngsters from integrated school as confident and mobile as there special school counterparts. They might be brightest of the lot as they’ve mostly done studies to prove ‘normalcy’, but something has always lacked- Confidence, audacity under constant protection of parents. At the same time, special schools may not be able to offer learning in all the inaccessible subjects like that of Maths, science and geography which in my case were the most favorite to me. We must understand that all blind children are not blessed with English speaking, well to do educated, knowledgeable family. Therefore, guys who come from below par level to that of even blind school, have only to gain. Like few of my friends came from well-educated families in a blind school even though they could have gone to the best of normal schools. I learnt English from them. Had I been sighted, I would have been studying in a municipal vernacular school and may have become a street fighter. So my blindness was a boon. My special school and friends in it were blessing. My blind school friends still have significant stake in my friendship support system. However and wherever they are right now. So the golden word is ‘Connect’ you know. Crucial, we need to analyze mobility wise which students do better- special school or integrated ones. TO conclude, I had to work very hard to come at par with my sighted friends when I joined mainstream prestigious college in studies, English language, Maths and time-relevant fashion and knowledge, but still special school was the important foundation of confidence. SO hybrid system is the best in my opinion. Views expressed are my personal. Please, no offense, if any)) And let’s work for prevention of blindness at least through genetic means. ~Cheers On 3/20/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: Friends Can yu share more instances of documented humiliation of blind students in universities/schools? I need such cases for a paper. On 7/24/14, Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote: at Preeti Ma'am: You had said in your Mail that you would ask your friend to read out what is written on the black board. it works in high school or after fifth grade. what if it is in second standard? even your classmates will be just starting to learn to read and write. how will they dictate? and if math or science has to be lernt, at the primary level, you definitely have to take help of any sighted person who is dedicated or who trains the blind. and only if your base is strong you can do College and engineering level math because I used to do most of the things mentally at BCA. and from the very beginning if you arrange for a special teacher, how can a child mingle with his/her Friends? when my sisters were in class 1 and 2, they sat together with friends and learnt all the concepts. if you teach and learn from others your concepts will be much stronger. it can be done from the very beginning in a blind school and is not practical in a regular school. now if I teach Math or Programming my sighted friends even by telling, they will understand because they are older. and also Ma'am you told that you would play with your friends at even at primary level. I guess you had little sight. if he/she is a totally blind person, every thing right from walking has to be taught. and if you want to play with your friends at second or third grade, again you need a dedicated person to teach you. if you never mingle with children and
Re: [AI] Excel question.
Dear Gautam jee, no problem about obtaining percentage. But the problem is with the condition that upto 5 lakhs its 10%. For the remaining value, that is 2 lakhs its 20%. How should I give the formula? I didn't know how to use conditions. Kindly enlighten me in using conditions. Thanks. On 20/03/2015, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: hi, In your case, just write the percentage calculation formula as in Mr. surya's example at both B5 and b6 cell. However, you have to use the validation feature to generate the value in either cell at one time. In your case, If one cell has value, the other must be blank and vice versa. If you want one cell with the desired value and the other with zero value, then no need to use the validation option. On 3/20/15, Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
[AI] SC upheld UGC norms
A two judge bench of the Supreme Court comprising of Justices T.S.Thakur and R.F.Nariman has upheld the regulations framed by the University Grants Commission (UGC) prescribing minimum qualifications for national and state level entrance tests (NET/SLET) for appointment of teachers/assistant professors in colleges. The bench speaking through Justice Nariman dismissed a batch of petitions filed by Ph.D/M.Phil holders challenging the regulations as revised by the Union government but said they would only be prospective. The constitutional validity of the UGC regulations (minimum qualifications required for the appointment and career advancement of teachers in universities and institutions affiliated to it) (the third Amendment) Regulation 2009 under which NET/SLET was to be the minimum eligibility condition for recruitment and appointment of lecturers in universities/colleges/institutions was assailed in the petitions. Though the UGC exempted Ph.D and M.Phil candidates from the eligibility test, the Union government had issued a circular including them in the regulations. While the High Courts of Madras, Delhi and Rajasthan rejected the challenge, the Allahabad High Court quashed the regulations. Justice Nariman set aside the Allahabad High Court judgment which said that the regulations were issued pursuant to directions of the Central Government which themselves were issued outside the powers conferred by the UGC Act and, hence, the conditions laid down would not apply to MPhil and PhD degrees awarded prior to December 31, 2009.The present petitions were clubbed together as they involved same question of law. Justice Nariman wrote It is clear that the object of the directions of the Central government read with the UGC regulations of 2009/2010 are to maintain excellence in standards of higher education. The bench also observed 22. We have already pointed out how the directions of the Central Government under Section 20 of the UGC Act pertain to questions of policy relating to national purpose. We have also pointed out that the regulation making power is subservient to directions issued under Section 20 of the Act. The fact that the UGC is an expert body does not take the matter any further. The UGC Act contemplates that such expert body will have to act in accordance with directions issued by the Central Government. The bench also expressed disappointment on a single judge bench not following a DB's orders - 4.In SLP (C) NO.3054-3055/2014, a judgment of the same High Court dated 6th January, 2014 again by a Division Bench arrived at the opposite conclusion. This is also a matter which causes us some distress. A Division Bench judgment of the same High Court is binding on a subsequent Division Bench. The subsequent Division Bench can either follow it or refer such judgment to the Chief Justice to constitute a Full Bench if it differs with it. We do not appreciate the manner in which this subsequent judgment, (even though it has reached the right result) has dealt with an earlier binding Division Bench judgment of the same High Court -- Believe in WORK not in LUCK! Most of all, trust in God but don't be dependent on Him. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Need cost and management accounting notes
Dear all, I am looking for notes on excel of cost and management accounting. As i am aware, there are some people in this list who had excelled on accounting subjects. It will be great if anybody can provide me with the problems and solutions on excel of cost and accounting. Looking for your help. Thanks and regards, Kiran Baug Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted suicide
I'm a late blind, so no experience to share about schooling. I came across one incident where in a legally blind kid of 3rd class put up by her parents in regular school was harassed by her teacher for not wearing her dress properly after interval time. Seeing this her friends as well as other girls too started to do the same. Though it is a school which is only for girls, her parents tried to convince her, but that kid doesn't yet come out of that incident. She scares of taking intervals even now. Her studies was drastically affected too. now, she is in her 4th grade still she says,please, take me out of this school. I hate it and my parents never understands One more thing to take into view is that we are talking about urban platform, what about rural areas? This is one such example, there might be many incident. Another similar happened but here it was the straight opposite, not 3rd grade kid but one of my friend in graduation. We know as girls being newbies to sarees? I bet even girls with vision strive hard to keep pinned in. They say, there will be good in every bad things, I must definitely thank many visually impaired (partial or full) deserving boys, who really shieldher from the unfortunate. Its a college, even now, if any of our friends (visually impaired) desire to wear saree, they say, we will slap you Here too humiliation happened, but we, especially, guys convinced her saying that you are so beautiful so they are jealous.This friend of mine is blind from her childhood. On 3/20/15, Mukesh Sharma mrmukeshsha...@gmail.com wrote: In the government school where I was, there was a resource teacher for disabled students, he himself was orthographically disabled, the case is there was a maths teacher in the school and this Resource teacher were in some kind of conflict...so this maths teacher use to pass comments to the blind students that I am the one great because I am trying to teach you MATHS (spelled in caps as was pronounced so) where you don't have to worry as after 9th you will not have to do study math but so far it is the responsibility of your resource teacher who just sips tea in every period. The kind of humiliation we use to face in front of entire class and the way we were cornered like 3rd class student is a pain to remember today. Well at that time I could not respond to any of them but if I see them today...I'd like to put them behind bars. This kind of conduct should be punishable to the degree to which sexual harassment is punishable. Thank god, thanks to my NAB teachers and my parents who decided to take me to public school to at least continue studying maths and that was the phase I realsed that this is the subject I can fall in low with. Thanks With Best Regards Mukesh Sharma On 20 March 2015 at 22:08, Pinkesh Tailor pinkesh.tai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I couldn't see the black board by the age of 5. By the age of 7, I couldn't even see the text books. I was studying in a government aided English medium school. Many students would bully and harass me, but on the other hand there were also students who would protect me against such hooligans. Some teachers, specifically the maths teacher would also humiliate me. My parents were from vernacular medium and were not highly educated as well. As I was suffering from low vision and couldn't read even the exam paper, the principle recommended my parents to put me to a special school. However my mother was bold enough to deny the same and took the principle in confidence on my performance. There after my mother, despite from a vernacular background took the charge to write all my class notes in fonts up to 24 which I would in turn read with special glasses. Even my mother was allowed to write the exam question paper before I was allowed to enter the school premise. However during my SSC exam, I had to opt for a writer. This help from my mother began when I was in 5th standard and it lasted until second year of my degree. After which I was finding it difficult to read even the 24points fonts with my reading glasses and ultimately I opted for recordings in audio which had its own challenges. So there are good peoples as students as well as bad peoples as students, helpful teachers as well as non-supportive teacher, but this is life all about irrespective of ability or disability. There are challenges at each and every walk of life, but it is our determination which matters and not perspectives of people around us. On 3/20/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Folks and mere mitron, Did Chakradhar study in an integrated school? I won't be surprised, but I am sorry for him. Hope he recovers soon. Why do we need to take an extreme position? I am from a so called special school for blind and my stories are as joyous as Harry Potter’s Hogwarts. Why can’t we have a weekly or monthly or bi-annual hostel where ‘equals’
[AI] Fwd: [NVDA] NVDACon 2015.1: keynote session recording now available, plus reminder for second day
-- Forwarded message -- From: Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 07:26:07 -0700 Subject: [NVDA] NVDACon 2015.1: keynote session recording now available, plus reminder for second day To: n...@freelists.org Dear NVDA users, developers and supporters around the world: I'm delighted to announce the availability of the keynote session from NVDACon 2015.1 as an mp3 archive. This session, which can be found at the NVDACon home page, was done last Saturday (Sunday for some of you), with Mick Curran as the keynote speaker. Mick talked about re3mote access solution, Windows 10, touch support, reading math and so on, as well as answering questions from the audience. The conference page can be found at: http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php Also, a huge reminder: NVDACon is still happening on March 21, 2015 (22nd for some). Just like the first day, we have some exciting sessions, including switching from JAWS to NVDA and vice versa (Window-Eyes will be mentioned), NVDA translations workflow and using NVDA in Windows 10. Just like the 14th, it'll be held at the TFFP TeamTalk server. The session schedule is: * Session 1: NonVisual way to transition from JAWS for Windows to NVDA: 9 AM Pacific, 12 PM Eastern, 16:00 UTC, the conference room channel. * Session 2: Going global with NvDA translations: 12 PM Pacific, 3 POM Eastern, 19:00 UTC, the conference room channel. * Session 3: Looking at the future - Windows 10: 3 PM Pacific, 6 PM Eastern, 22:00 UTC, break out 02 channel. Lastly: * StationPlaylist add-on users and developers meeting: 2 PM Pacific, 5 PM Eastern, 21:00 UTC, the first break out channel. It'll be a quick, half an hour meeting to discuss the SPL Studio add-on and its future directions. Hope to see you at the second day of NVDACon 2015.1. P.S. After the last session, we'll have a quick meeting to review the conference and plan the next one (NvDACon 2015.2 might be held some time later this year, and this time, I'll sincerely ask that one or more language communities from one or more regions to collectively plan, host and review the conference). Cheers, Joseph -- Warm Regards Bhavya Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype id : bhavya.09 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] NEED CONTACT OF VISUALLY IMPAIRED GUITARISTS
Dear friends, I am planning to learn western accustic guitar. In connection with the same I would like to get in touch with visually impaired guitarists to seek guidance in the initial stage. Could anyone help me in this regard? Thanking you in advance, Jerin Jose K E-Mail: jerinjose...@gmail.com Cell: +91-9539510031 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted suicide
In the government school where I was, there was a resource teacher for disabled students, he himself was orthographically disabled, the case is there was a maths teacher in the school and this Resource teacher were in some kind of conflict...so this maths teacher use to pass comments to the blind students that I am the one great because I am trying to teach you MATHS (spelled in caps as was pronounced so) where you don't have to worry as after 9th you will not have to do study math but so far it is the responsibility of your resource teacher who just sips tea in every period. The kind of humiliation we use to face in front of entire class and the way we were cornered like 3rd class student is a pain to remember today. Well at that time I could not respond to any of them but if I see them today...I'd like to put them behind bars. This kind of conduct should be punishable to the degree to which sexual harassment is punishable. Thank god, thanks to my NAB teachers and my parents who decided to take me to public school to at least continue studying maths and that was the phase I realsed that this is the subject I can fall in low with. Thanks With Best Regards Mukesh Sharma On 20 March 2015 at 22:08, Pinkesh Tailor pinkesh.tai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I couldn't see the black board by the age of 5. By the age of 7, I couldn't even see the text books. I was studying in a government aided English medium school. Many students would bully and harass me, but on the other hand there were also students who would protect me against such hooligans. Some teachers, specifically the maths teacher would also humiliate me. My parents were from vernacular medium and were not highly educated as well. As I was suffering from low vision and couldn't read even the exam paper, the principle recommended my parents to put me to a special school. However my mother was bold enough to deny the same and took the principle in confidence on my performance. There after my mother, despite from a vernacular background took the charge to write all my class notes in fonts up to 24 which I would in turn read with special glasses. Even my mother was allowed to write the exam question paper before I was allowed to enter the school premise. However during my SSC exam, I had to opt for a writer. This help from my mother began when I was in 5th standard and it lasted until second year of my degree. After which I was finding it difficult to read even the 24points fonts with my reading glasses and ultimately I opted for recordings in audio which had its own challenges. So there are good peoples as students as well as bad peoples as students, helpful teachers as well as non-supportive teacher, but this is life all about irrespective of ability or disability. There are challenges at each and every walk of life, but it is our determination which matters and not perspectives of people around us. On 3/20/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Folks and mere mitron, Did Chakradhar study in an integrated school? I won't be surprised, but I am sorry for him. Hope he recovers soon. Why do we need to take an extreme position? I am from a so called special school for blind and my stories are as joyous as Harry Potter’s Hogwarts. Why can’t we have a weekly or monthly or bi-annual hostel where ‘equals’ children study, play, fight etc. and no need for special-inclusive-disabled friendly adjustments are required at the hostel level at least? They will feel world for them when they come back to the hostel. I am sorry to draw a Harry Potter example again, but have you seen how Harry Potter and other wizards feel ‘DIFFERENT’ (in blocks) even though they can do magic? So in my opinion, they can stay together but can move out to study in a mainstream school. But still concerted efforts will be required to really integrate we special children with sighted ones as I have seen in colleges where significant number of blind students study and remain in their blind community largely. The only regret I have from studying from a special school that it did not offer me an option to study mathematics from 8th standard onwards. But I have sweetest of memories of cricket matches, blind games like hand-cricket, music, Braille cards and of course that special language that no outsider understands. I am sure Ketan will understand that On a serious note, I have had the misfortune to see least number of youngsters from integrated school as confident and mobile as there special school counterparts. They might be brightest of the lot as they’ve mostly done studies to prove ‘normalcy’, but something has always lacked- Confidence, audacity under constant protection of parents. At the same time, special schools may not be able to offer learning in all the inaccessible subjects like that of Maths, science and geography which in my case were the most favorite
Re: [AI] Insulted by a university teacher, blind attempted suicide
Hi, I couldn't see the black board by the age of 5. By the age of 7, I couldn't even see the text books. I was studying in a government aided English medium school. Many students would bully and harass me, but on the other hand there were also students who would protect me against such hooligans. Some teachers, specifically the maths teacher would also humiliate me. My parents were from vernacular medium and were not highly educated as well. As I was suffering from low vision and couldn't read even the exam paper, the principle recommended my parents to put me to a special school. However my mother was bold enough to deny the same and took the principle in confidence on my performance. There after my mother, despite from a vernacular background took the charge to write all my class notes in fonts up to 24 which I would in turn read with special glasses. Even my mother was allowed to write the exam question paper before I was allowed to enter the school premise. However during my SSC exam, I had to opt for a writer. This help from my mother began when I was in 5th standard and it lasted until second year of my degree. After which I was finding it difficult to read even the 24points fonts with my reading glasses and ultimately I opted for recordings in audio which had its own challenges. So there are good peoples as students as well as bad peoples as students, helpful teachers as well as non-supportive teacher, but this is life all about irrespective of ability or disability. There are challenges at each and every walk of life, but it is our determination which matters and not perspectives of people around us. On 3/20/15, Ekinath Khedekar ekin...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Folks and mere mitron, Did Chakradhar study in an integrated school? I won't be surprised, but I am sorry for him. Hope he recovers soon. Why do we need to take an extreme position? I am from a so called special school for blind and my stories are as joyous as Harry Potter’s Hogwarts. Why can’t we have a weekly or monthly or bi-annual hostel where ‘equals’ children study, play, fight etc. and no need for special-inclusive-disabled friendly adjustments are required at the hostel level at least? They will feel world for them when they come back to the hostel. I am sorry to draw a Harry Potter example again, but have you seen how Harry Potter and other wizards feel ‘DIFFERENT’ (in blocks) even though they can do magic? So in my opinion, they can stay together but can move out to study in a mainstream school. But still concerted efforts will be required to really integrate we special children with sighted ones as I have seen in colleges where significant number of blind students study and remain in their blind community largely. The only regret I have from studying from a special school that it did not offer me an option to study mathematics from 8th standard onwards. But I have sweetest of memories of cricket matches, blind games like hand-cricket, music, Braille cards and of course that special language that no outsider understands. I am sure Ketan will understand that On a serious note, I have had the misfortune to see least number of youngsters from integrated school as confident and mobile as there special school counterparts. They might be brightest of the lot as they’ve mostly done studies to prove ‘normalcy’, but something has always lacked- Confidence, audacity under constant protection of parents. At the same time, special schools may not be able to offer learning in all the inaccessible subjects like that of Maths, science and geography which in my case were the most favorite to me. We must understand that all blind children are not blessed with English speaking, well to do educated, knowledgeable family. Therefore, guys who come from below par level to that of even blind school, have only to gain. Like few of my friends came from well-educated families in a blind school even though they could have gone to the best of normal schools. I learnt English from them. Had I been sighted, I would have been studying in a municipal vernacular school and may have become a street fighter. So my blindness was a boon. My special school and friends in it were blessing. My blind school friends still have significant stake in my friendship support system. However and wherever they are right now. So the golden word is ‘Connect’ you know. Crucial, we need to analyze mobility wise which students do better- special school or integrated ones. TO conclude, I had to work very hard to come at par with my sighted friends when I joined mainstream prestigious college in studies, English language, Maths and time-relevant fashion and knowledge, but still special school was the important foundation of confidence. SO hybrid system is the best in my opinion. Views expressed are my personal. Please, no offense, if any)) And let’s work for prevention of blindness at least through genetic
[AI] Mozilla not opeing, only IE does
Hi, I am using my office lap top at home. While using my broadband internet connection, I am only able to use Internet Explorer browser. When I try to use Mozilla, the page does not open and offers usual reasons for disconnection. This does not happen at office. I am able to use Mozilla in the office. I wish to use Mozilla, how do I tackle it? Please guide -- *** I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God, I will do. EDWARD EVERETT HALE. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Excel question.
hi, your condition is not clear. I understand it as: up to 5 lakh at b4, 10% and should be written at b5, it is clear. but what you mean for b6 value. what do you mean? if the value at b4 is more than five lakh then should the percentage be twenty and be written at b6 or the twenty percentage of just remaining value i.e. deducting five lakh first and calculate? Similarly, i have given the three types of format in Surya's question. Make it clear that In which format do you need the result? The format determines the formula syntax. In excel, For expressing the condition the 'if' command is used as under. =if(value condition result one, result two) if the value meets the condition, it will write the result1 otherwise it writes the result2. for example: the mark obtained by a student at a exam is written at cell b2 and the result be written at cell c2. you should write the formula at c2 as: =if(b230, fail, pass) in the example, if a student gets a mark less than thirty, the fail word will be written. at cell c2. If the mark obtained is equal or more than 30, the word pass will be written at cell c2. On 3/20/15, Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Gautam jee, no problem about obtaining percentage. But the problem is with the condition that upto 5 lakhs its 10%. For the remaining value, that is 2 lakhs its 20%. How should I give the formula? I didn't know how to use conditions. Kindly enlighten me in using conditions. Thanks. On 20/03/2015, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: hi, In your case, just write the percentage calculation formula as in Mr. surya's example at both B5 and b6 cell. However, you have to use the validation feature to generate the value in either cell at one time. In your case, If one cell has value, the other must be blank and vice versa. If you want one cell with the desired value and the other with zero value, then no need to use the validation option. On 3/20/15, Giri Prasad mgiriprasadma...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Gautam and Mukesh, I require a formula that suits my needs. Suppose B4 contains the value 70 that is 7 lakhs, I want 10% of B4 to be displayed in B5. But here is a condition that upto 50 its 10%. For the remaining value its 20%. This 20% should be in the cell B6. Hope you understood my point clearly. Kindly help me in this conditioning formula. Thanks in anticipation. On 20/03/2015, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks for the support. I was asking for the third option you mentioned and as I have mentioned earlier that formula suggested by Mukesh does the job. thanks again. On 3/18/15, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote: Though there is no trick; but there are different ways of percentage expression. The formula differs as per format. My key question is not yet replied. Do you need the percentage sign automatically be written when the value is calculated or you need just a value? For example: if the value is say 13 percentage. then; what type of expression do you want? a) 13.00% i.e the value with decimal figure and with automatically generated percentage sign. b) 13% i.e the value without decimal figure but with automatically generated percentage sign. c just 13 i.e the value without decimal figure and without the percentage sign. The given formula belongs to the last format option. On 3/18/15, Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, thanks to both of you. to Him Prasad Gautam: yes I want the figure equal to ten percent of the sum of b5 and c5 at d5 and the formula mentioned by Mukesh worked for that. any other trick if available is also requested. On 3/17/15, Mukesh Baviskar mukeshbaviskar@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please try this formula: in cell d5 =ROUND(SUM(B5,C5)*0.1,0) Regards, Mukesh Baviskar Mobile: 9403161157 -- From: Surya Prakash Sharma spsharma.gc...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 5:14 PM To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Excel question. Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day. my query is: how to achieve rounded 10% of B5 + C5 in cell D5. -- S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science Govt. College Kaladera Jaipur Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
ah, one of the satirical question posed to me by my scribe, having plans of getting into government jobs, where you people have no work?. If we tangled into these scribe words, then we can never come up. I gave her the answer, yup, you people are there to pay taxes which in turn our salary. So work for the nation as well as uplift Indian economy. On 3/20/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote: In every community, there are good/bad persons. The Visually Impaired are no exception. Although it is better not to use unfair means during examinations, But most of us do use such means if we get opportunities. When everybody cheats if there is a scope for the same, why the visually impaired should be blamed. They have their own set of problems and they also use unfair means to get promoted. When others cheat, most of the times, it does not come out. But when the visually impaired cheat, at least their writers would surely know. This is the difference. Cheating is a general problem during examinations and everybody has different experiences to share. Let us leave it on this point that it is for the individual to decide as to what path he/she chooses in life. Let the candidate decide whether or not he would use the unfair means. Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 11:42 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out. Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal experience. I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so. Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk. Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam. I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to some extent. Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are just twelfth pass. If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first place. And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally incompetent for the exam. Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years. If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him. Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets stereotyped. Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality. On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing the buck. thank you. On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident. So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the post. first and foremost, the writer described 2 of her own experience not to demean the visually impaired but to propagate the significance of equal opportunities. while we are
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
Sorry for my previous post on this thread. I saw this thread being closed by you moderator. Sincerely apologize. On 3/21/15, Radha r.radh...@gmail.com wrote: ah, one of the satirical question posed to me by my scribe, having plans of getting into government jobs, where you people have no work?. If we tangled into these scribe words, then we can never come up. I gave her the answer, yup, you people are there to pay taxes which in turn our salary. So work for the nation as well as uplift Indian economy. On 3/20/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote: In every community, there are good/bad persons. The Visually Impaired are no exception. Although it is better not to use unfair means during examinations, But most of us do use such means if we get opportunities. When everybody cheats if there is a scope for the same, why the visually impaired should be blamed. They have their own set of problems and they also use unfair means to get promoted. When others cheat, most of the times, it does not come out. But when the visually impaired cheat, at least their writers would surely know. This is the difference. Cheating is a general problem during examinations and everybody has different experiences to share. Let us leave it on this point that it is for the individual to decide as to what path he/she chooses in life. Let the candidate decide whether or not he would use the unfair means. Exciting Offers to Grab Vedprakash Sharma -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 11:42 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. The discussion has been a very fruitful one, with different opinions coming out. Now, I would like to put forward some points, which are based on my personal experience. I have seen many blind people who are capable enough to study and pass the exams with good marks, but they lack the will to do so. Hence, they rely heavily upon their writers, which is a great risk. Sometimes, they pay their writers double the amount sanctioned by the examination authority so that the writer comes fully prepared for the exam. I agree that computer exams can not be made compulsory at this time, but a better scruteny of the writer's background can help in preventing cheating to some extent. Sometimes, some people bring writers of a very high level and say that they are just twelfth pass. If a blind person is capable enough, then he/she will not cheat in the first place. And if he/she cheats, then that clearly means that he/she is totally incompetent for the exam. Acording to me, if a blind person is found cheating, then that person should be debarred from taking that examination for at least the next five years. If a sighted person is found cheating, it will be an insult only for him. Where as if a blind person is caught doing the same, the entire community gets stereotyped. Whether we accept it or not, but its the reality. On 3/20/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Sir, I think, why the people cheat in exam, because, they have loss their faith in system. and they have no hope in their life to pass exam. When they experience about bad old insidents, they try to implement in current exams. Their goal is just pass. So, for those people, counsling is must require to do them best. And, in exam system, also changes are must implement. by putting Cctv. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: What sighted does is off topic sir. we are not the representatives of sighted people's wrongdoings. lets talk about us rather than passing the buck. thank you. On 3/19/15, Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi ingalagisi...@gmail.com wrote: so, is blinds only cheat in Exam hall? not Sighted people? They also copy and cheat the Whole system. Example today Bihar state incident. So, curruption is every field. Need to control before happening. On 3/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote: If we continue to debate this 2011 post appeared on youth ki avaz it has no end. Once this write up under discussion became public in the virtual world, it somehow bolstered the already rampant notion that sigeable number of blind people are nitwit. the argument about she sharing her experience on public platform is well-taken, however the ramification of piece on blind people is equally important to be discussed. I never claim in an absolute term that I'm an activist at all one could check the archive... It was just an effort as researcher to underline the salient features of her argument. One could differ in entirety. On 3/19/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that there is a greater gorge flowing between our understanding of the
Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal.
Hi. Whatever happened was justice. Whatever is happening is also justice and whatever is going to happen is also going to be justice. This is all natural law, so don't worry be happy. On 3/20/15, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote: Truth be said, What ever the writer has expressed in her post is the reality of not only VI but every classes of students. If you allow me to classify students and examination takers. prima facie her claims and observations rightly point at dishonest atitude of VI. If we excogitate on the reasons for dishonest means employed in exams. The writer is right but her point of view is a distorted reality which lacks the understanding of ground realities. Let me ask this, even are we in a position to discuss/debate on this issue? When basic fesility leading up to the exams, pre-exam/ learning/ access to books and study material, equal treatment for all VI etc etc issues are not sorted. I as a student of law not only just have to buy books and read but also have get it scanned and edited which is a conscientious process. Which is in addition to other concerns pertaining to disability which I need to address. I'm not justifying use of dishonest means, for them we have law and established procedure of law to deal with it. It would be against the natural justice if we not look at the issues which are incidental and ancillary to examination. We as disability activist have to redefine the principal of survival of the fittest. We need to act as a support system and have to ensure the transaction from treditional approach to modern technical approach should be smooth. A haphazard and slapdash transaction will be precursor to discontent among our felas. Arjun M On 3/20/15, bala9119 bala9...@gmail.com wrote: I second your opinion sir. the system that deals with the visually impaired stands fragile. although today is late, it is better late than never to move towards the accomplaishment of smooth flow of system not only in education but in every aspect that determines personal life and liberty. for that, we must creat awareness among us, then only we can collaborate with the sighted and non-disabled society. computerization of exams alone not a fair solution, but mandating computer training from the primary schools of the visually challenged special Schools would be the best solution for the future progress where computerization of exams can be proliferated. apart from that, those who enroll themselves in a visually impaired schools must be made to learn Braille. besides computer and another person to write, Braille seems to me the most apt, independent mode of writing exams. I feel sad to see the significance of Braille going down among the youngsters like us. I always consider the visually impaired who don't know Braille as not only a person of physical Blindness but communication blindness as well. lets work for a change in the system, thank you. On 3/20/15, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Yes the situation is grim. We all know it. The focus therefore needs to be on bettering the situation and not on encouraging mal practice and values that do not help in the long run. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Misbah Sent: 19 March 2015 23:41 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] 2 Better Than 1? Being A Scribe For A Visually Impaired - Akanksha Mittal. Does anyone know what is the actual condition of persons with blindness in this country? Does anyone know how the literacy rate among the blind is? Does anyone know how many blind persons have been employed in public/private enterprises? The ratio is appalling, only 48_% blind have managed to acquire basic literacy in comparison to general ratio which is now 71%, Only 10% passed 12th, around 2 to 3% are in so called higher education. Out of million blind a handful does uses or would have ever heard of screen reader application available for them. 0.4% in public and 0.3% in private sector they are employed. Consider these actual facts and please try to sensitize your arguments in light of these facts which are even a blot on the already educated and elite segments of our community. The law for us came in 1995 and it has started implementing recently not by the government but by the judicial indictments and now because of such legal fighting if handful of blind persons have gained some respectability their competency has started recognize by the private/governmental authorities than we ourselves have started pulling the legs of our own people? I don't understand what sorts of awareness, sensitizing whistle blowing we are doing. One does not know how much competent and capable few blind students/aspirant has become that they are getting hard fighting from other blind fellow itself doo hope that this
