[AI] Re: My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra M odi for the ‘divyang’

[Mahendra Galani]

Vedprakash,
word disabled is world over acceptable,
may be its not the  best word,
however is there  need for new word?




At 10:10 AM 1/2/2016 +0530, you wrote:
There may be objections from one or the other 
quarter with the terms used to denote a person 
with disabilities. We are wasting our skills in 
criticising the term divyang. We should rather 
try to present an alternative which is the least 
objectionable and the most acceptable. The term 
Viklang, when considered properly, looks as if 
the body parts or "Angas" are in enxiety or 
"vikal". Can the term be considered as 
appropriate to use? The term "disabled" means 
the persons who are not able bodied. It also 
looks objectionable. So it is not the term, but 
the meaning specified to that term, which is 
important and hence should be taken into 
consideration. Divyang, viklang or any other 
term is not going to change our destiny; but its 
definition surely will. Hence, we should be more 
concerned with the definition of disability than 
divyang or viklang. Exciting Offers to 
Grab  Vedprakash Sharma -Original 
Message- From: AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Friday, January 
01, 2016 2:07 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for 
discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.  
Subject: Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank 
you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’ How 
do we make it crystal clear that our fight is 
not with the Modi as a person. However his 
suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely 
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. 
Why some of us always think that the disability 
is apolitical subject. Its very much political 
and we should politicize it to the extent we 
could. Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no 
where to bargain our fair share.  We should not 
forget that the entitlements provisioned in the 
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of 
disability to some extent which aims to put 
burden on the society for the disabling 
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us 
think its a paid campaign against Mr Modi. We 
are merely airing our views in the publick 
domain which is vital for the strengthening of 
the disability studies and the disability 
advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old who 
could claim decades of experience of working in 
the sector. I'm student and in my limited 
capacity as a writer I do my best in raising 
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played 
our part in stalling the passage of the faulty 
RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should 
understand the importance of the publick debate 
and discussion which hardly takes place in the 
disability sector. Its not that  only writing to 
PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. 
There are large sections in India who view 
disabled people as 'divyang'. and formalizing of 
the term would do a great damage in the future. 
No media house wants to publish anything about 
the ramification of the 'divyang' why? because 
there is an agreement with the suggestion. I 
lament why we don't have publications taking up 
disability discourse seriously. Its an opportune 
time to expose the politics behind the terms 
'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 
'divyang'. On 1/1/16, P. Subramani 
 wrote: > well avinash, 
we must fight with the govt to get  these things 
done rather > than asking the govt as to why you 
haven't done all these.   There is no > reason 
for suddenly taking a hardline against 
the  after BJP coming to > power.  Where were 
you people and others while the earlier govt 
was  ruling? > Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP 
campaign? > -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com > 
Mob:  9738150192 > Facebook: 
facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 > - Original 
Message - > From: "avinash shahi" 
 > To: "accessindia" 
; "jnuvision" > 
; "pratiksha.baxi" > 
; "sayeverything" > 
 > Sent: 
Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM > Subject: 
[AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr 
Narendra Modi for > the ‘divyang’ > > >> As 
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as 
‘harijan’ sparked off >> a political and 
intellectual fervent among the dalits decades 
ago, >> similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s 
new invention ‘divyang’ for >> addressing 
the disabled should spur political awakening 
and >> intellectual currents among the disabled. 
This is an opportunity to >> assert one’s 
choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that 
the >> disabled people have been unquestioningly 
burdened with multiple >> collective 
denominations imposed by the political class and 
the >> mainstream media without taking them on 
board. If Mr Modi really >> thinks we are 
‘divyang’, then what about extending 
parliamentary >> entry through Rajya Sabha to 
the 

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 'divyang'

[S R Mittal]

Very much true sir.

Mittal

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Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
'divyang'

well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done rather 
than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no 
reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to 
power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was  ruling?

Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
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- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision" 
; "pratiksha.baxi" ; 
"sayeverything" 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
'divyang'


> As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as 'harijan' sparked off
> a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
> similarly the Prime Minister  Modi's new invention 'divyang' for
> addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
> intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
> assert one's choice independently. Isn't it ironical that the disabled
> people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
> denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
> without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
> 'divyang', then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
> Sabha to the 'divyangs' to run the Upper House smoothly and
> efficiently? What about creating Ministry of 'divyang' affairs in
> 2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
> jobs despite the Apex Court's directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
> nation to address the disabled as 'divyang' is insufficient. If you
> really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
> the 'divyang' affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
> 5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
> are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still 'divyang for
> the Prime Minister, it's a cruel joke with their lives.'what's in a
> name', they say.
>
>
> -- 
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>
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Re: [AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus

[Vyas Gajendra]

sky id is gajendravyas
- Original Message - 
From: "Kavitha Desai desai" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus



Can you please share me your skype id.



On 1/1/16, Vyas Gajendra  wrote:

yes i use it comfortably . with tab and arrow keys you can do it.
gajendra vyas
phone : 079-30127030
mobile : 9427065866
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From: "Kavitha Desai desai" 
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Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 5:55 PM
Subject: [AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus



Hello Friends,

Happy New Year to all.

I  would like to know does any of the list members using Abast anti
virus for there PC.

If yes does Jaws support completely  to scan the pc.

Please write step by step  how to scan.

Regards,

Kavitha

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Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise underanylaw?

[S R Mittal]

Very much correct sir. They are against BJP and not the word as such. In the 
past many people have many harmful things. They never bothered. Now because Mr. 
Modi is from BJP they shedding crockodile tears. 

Mittal

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
P. Subramani
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:07 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
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Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise underanylaw?

it seems that postings are more against pm than the word.  If some one else 
had used useed divyang,  the issue would have been ignored.  This discussion 
is more politically motivated  than substance
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From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise underany 
law?


> The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM
> into the discussion.
> Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately
> uses a derrogatory term.
> It is not in case of Divyang.
>
> On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani  wrote:
>> What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when the
>> body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their case.
>> These words are just words, heard numerous times.
>>
>> When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
>> helping hand to get to the window.
>>
>> That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.
>>
>>
>>
>> We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping hand
>> from government and society ,
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, li...@srinivasu.org 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>>
>>> > On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
>>> aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think speshaly abled is the rightword
>>> > -- Forwarded message --
>>> > From: "Lissy Verghese" 
>>> > Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any
>>> > law?
>>> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> > the disabled." 
>>> > Cc:
>>> >
>>> > Dear friends,
>>> > It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to compensate
>>> > for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister appears a bit
>>> > sympathetic. Strong words won't help. Let's cooperate with our
>>> > Government by suggesting amendments. If we stand together, we will
>>> > definitely be heard. Let organizations all over India come together
>>> > and put forward constructive suggestions so that the efforts of the
>>> > Government for an inclusive India can be fulfilled.
>>> > Thank you!
>>> > Lissy Verghese
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 12/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>> >> I had strongly pressed for such penal provisions in the new bill.
>>> >> However, we don't know in which avtar the new bill will be passed 
>>> >> now.
>>> >>
>>> >> Even I would like to penalize our dear PM under any such provision, 
>>> >> if
>>> it
>>> >> were there, for calling us divyang and saying publicly that god gifts
>>> >> compensatory abilities if he snatches away one.
>>> >>
>>> >> Not a bad bargain, na?
>>> >>
>>> >> Were It true, why not, Mr. PM go in for such a trade-off yourself and
>>> ask
>>> >> all government babus to follow suit?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>> >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>> >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>> >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>>> >> नागपुर Nagpur
>>> >>
>>> >> 0712 2806846
>>> >>
>>> >> President
>>> >> VIBEWA
>>> >> Co-Moderator
>>> >> VIB-India
>>> >>
>>> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> >> laughter.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> > Behalf
>>> >> Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
>>> >> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:06 PM
>>> >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> >> the disabled.
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any
>>> law?
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't know the right word for that but I mean insulting with words
>>> >> like kurudan (Tamil), Guddi (Telugu), etc.  Insulting may also 
>>> >> include
>>> >> acts like deriding the way we do things.  Hope it's 

Re: [AI] for accessibility guidelines

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Google WCAG 2.0 and Section508 for web accessibility.

On 12/31/15, Mohit Gupta  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> I want various guidelines regarding web accessibility and other
> software accessibility for assistive technology. Please provide me.
> --
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Re: [AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

[raaju]

Hey akash sir, very good initiative! Well, I also would like to add my
suggestion for creating the website that there should also be the website
like flipkart for visually impaired person, which allows purchessing of all
the equipments which vi needs online like slate and stylus, cricket ball,
watches and calculater, various basic and smartt cane, etc. saksham has the
similar site for that but when we place any order they won't response in web
interface. 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Aakash Bansal
Sent: Friday, January 1, 2016 2:31 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

Hi guys,

We are working on a project for developing websites, which will have
details about all the accessibility devices, Mobile Apps,
Organisations, STEM accessibility, events, Govt, Schemes and
Scholarship Programs, etc with information to be specific to India.

This type of website will be highly useful for the persons, those
suddenly lost their vision due to an accident or a diese.

We would like to know various Accessibility devices and Mobile Apps
which you guys are using and their functionality and performances. We
are also interesting in knowing various organisations working for VI
persoons with their roles, Ways to access STEM content and the various
Govt. Schemes.

Please send us your comments at aakashiitde...@gmail.com and Please
join with us on our facebook page.at https://www.facebook.com/pwsav/

PS: You are most welcome, If you wants to work with us.

Thanks and Regards
Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi

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Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[Vedprakash]

There may be objections from one or the other quarter with the terms used to 
denote a person with disabilities.
We are wasting our skills in criticising the term divyang.
We should rather try to present an alternative which is the least objectionable 
and the most acceptable.
The term Viklang, when considered properly, looks as if the body parts or 
"Angas" are in enxiety or "vikal".
Can the term be considered as appropriate to use?
The term "disabled" means the persons who are not able bodied. It also looks 
objectionable.
So it is not the term, but the meaning specified to that term, which is 
important and hence should be taken into consideration.
Divyang, viklang or any other term is not going to change our destiny; but its 
definition surely will.
Hence, we should be more concerned with the definition of disability than 
divyang or viklang.
Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:07 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’

How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as a 
person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely uneducated 
country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always think that the 
disability is apolitical subject. Its very much political and we should 
politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair share.  We 
should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the PWD Acd are the 
outcome of the social model of disability to some extent which aims to put 
burden on the society for the disabling condition. Its unfortunate that handful 
of us think its a paid campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views 
in the publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability 
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old who could 
claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm student and in my 
limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising serious concerns of ours. 
We successfully played our part in stalling the passage of the faulty RPD Bill 
braught by the UPA II. We should understand the importance of the publick 
debate and discussion which hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its 
not that  only writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There 
are large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and 
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No media house 
wants to publish anything about the ramification of the 'divyang' why? because 
there is an agreement with the suggestion. I lament why we don't have 
publications taking up disability discourse seriously. Its an opportune time to 
expose the politics behind the terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 
'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
> well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done rather
> than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no
> reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to 
> power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was  ruling?
> Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
> -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
> Mob:  9738150192
> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"
> ; "pratiksha.baxi" 
> ; "sayeverything" 
> 
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
> Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for 
> the ‘divyang’
>
>
>> As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off 
>> a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago, 
>> similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for 
>> addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and 
>> intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to 
>> assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the 
>> disabled people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple 
>> collective denominations imposed by the political class and the 
>> mainstream media without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really 
>> thinks we are ‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary 
>> entry through Rajya Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House 
>> smoothly and efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ 
>> affairs in 2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent 
>> reservation in jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, 

Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any law?

[PAULMUDDHA]

The fact is that no one would like to disagree with the pm's words as they are 
worried about the consequences.
The Ministery of social justice and the law making body should consider all 
aspects before taking a final view on the term "divyang"
Before it is used in public domain.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
P. Subramani
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:00 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any 
law?

very well advised harish, there is unnecessary talk on this topic and from 
most of the postings, it seems that Modi is creating problems,  he  hasn't 
solved any of our problems.  This seems to be a more of a conspiracy 
campaign rather than fair discussion.  If people have any objections for the 
word, obviously, it has to be transmitted to the PM.  Moreover, diwang means 
divine part and not divinge bodies as talked in this list.  Some members are 
misleading the group in the sense that our traditions have treated 
disability cruelly without factual basis.  Surely our traditions hasn't 
treated us cruelly, its  leftist/western conceived notion.   Surely, 
disableds haven't till date decided  what's right/good for themselves.  More 
often than not,  everything is imposed on disability.  Mere suggestion 
shouldn't warrant  such big fuss.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Caution, H P" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
any law?


> Hi
>
> I really don't see why so much fuss is done on the list. A sensible 
> approach is tell the government what is it that we want to be called and 
> why. The government has opened up so many channels for citizen's to 
> communicate,
> Please make use of it.
>
> The PM had merely made a suggestion, it is not cast in stone.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:32 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
> any law?
>
> Oho, Bichara PM.
> Let us spare him.
>
> Namecalling or not, PM or not:
>
>
> I would even prefer short and simple: "Andhaa" to so-called Divyang
>
> As the former openly expresses what I cannot do,  and the perception of 
> the people rather than masking and deifying it as the later does.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under 
> any law?
>
> The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM into 
> the discussion.
> Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately uses 
> a derrogatory term.
> It is not in case of Divyang.
>
> On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani  wrote:
>> What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when
>> the body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their 
>> case.
>> These words are just words, heard numerous times.
>>
>> When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
>> helping hand to get to the window.
>>
>> That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.
>>
>>
>>
>> We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping
>> hand from government and society ,
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, li...@srinivasu.org
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>>
>>> > On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
>>> aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think specially abled is the rightword
>>> > -- Forwarded message --
>>> > From: "Lissy Verghese" 
>>> > Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under
>>> > any law?
>>> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> > the disabled." 
>>> > Cc:
>>> >
>>> > Dear friends,
>>> > It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to
>>> > compensate for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister
>>> > appears a bit 

[AI] Re: My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra M odi for the ‘divyang’

[Mahendra Galani]

Subramani

i am sorry you got this time totaly wrong,
i dont think any one is against PM for name sake,
it is only against the word Divyang.



At 02:31 PM 1/1/2016 +0530, you wrote:
I do respect your views and also the 
fight/campaign against the faulty rpd bill, pm 
merely suggested a word which after wider 
consultations/discussions could be 
accpted/rejected by the views of the 
disableds/activitists, etc., my concern is  the 
posting give an impression that modi is 
anti-disabled by suggesting such word and not 
implementing the benefits for the disableds and 
not solving any of our problems.   surely pm is 
answerable to us for coining the word. 
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com 
Mob:  9738150192 Facebook: 
facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 - Original 
Message - From: "avinash shahi" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a 
list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 
 Sent: Friday, 
January 01, 2016 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI]My 
paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi 
for the ‘divyang’ > How do we make it 
crystal clear that our fight is not with the 
Modi as > a person. However his suggestion of 
'divyang' as the PM of a largely > uneducated 
country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of 
us always > think that the disability is 
apolitical subject. Its very much > political 
and we should politicize it to the extent we 
could. > Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us 
no where to bargain our fair > share.  We should 
not forget that the entitlements provisioned in 
the > PWD Acd are the outcome of the social 
model of disability to some > extent which aims 
to put burden on the society for the disabling > 
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us 
think its a paid > campaign against Mr Modi. We 
are merely airing our views in the > publick 
domain which is vital for the strengthening of 
the disability > studies and the disability 
advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old > who 
could claim decades of experience of working in 
the sector. I'm > student and in my limited 
capacity as a writer I do my best in raising > 
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played 
our part in stalling > the passage of the faulty 
RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should > 
understand the importance of the publick debate 
and discussion which > hardly takes place in the 
disability sector. Its not that  only > writing 
to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. 
There are > large sections in India who view 
disabled people as 'divyang'. and > formalizing 
of the term would do a great damage in the 
future. No > media house wants to publish 
anything about the ramification of the > 
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement 
with the suggestion. I > lament why we don't 
have publications taking up disability 
discourse > seriously. Its an opportune time to 
expose the politics behind the > terms 
'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 
'divyang'. > > > On 1/1/16, P. Subramani 
 wrote: >> well 
avinash, we must fight with the govt to 
get  these things done >> rather >> than asking 
the govt as to why you haven't done all 
these.   There is no >> reason for suddenly 
taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming 
to >> power.  Where were you people and others 
while the earlier govt was >> ruling? >> Is this 
paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign? >> 
-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com >> 
Mob:  9738150192 >> Facebook: 
facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 >> - Original 
Message - >> From: "avinash shahi" 
 >> To: "accessindia" 
; "jnuvision" >> 
; "pratiksha.baxi" 
; >> "sayeverything" 
 >> Sent: 
Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM >> Subject: 
[AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr 
Narendra Modi for the >> ‘divyang’ >> >> >>> 
As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as 
‘harijan’ sparked off >>> a political and 
intellectual fervent among the dalits decades 
ago, >>> similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s 
new invention ‘divyang’ for >>> addressing 
the disabled should spur political awakening 
and >>> intellectual currents among the 
disabled. This is an opportunity to >>> assert 
one’s choice independently. Isn’t it 
ironical that the disabled >>> people have been 
unquestioningly burdened with multiple 
collective >>> denominations imposed by the 
political class and the mainstream media >>> 
without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really 
thinks we are >>> ‘divyang’, then what about 
extending parliamentary entry through Rajya >>> 
Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper 
House smoothly and >>> efficiently? What about 
creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs 
in >>> 2016? Why delaying the implementation of 
the 3 per cent reservation in >>> jobs despite 
the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely 

[AI] Moderator: Divyang

[Kotian, H P]

All
We have being having considerable debate on this issue and I now see the same 
arguments drummed over and over.
If there is nothing more to add, may we now call off this thread.
Harish Kotian




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Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penaliseunderany law?

[P. Subramani]

its a false sense that pm imposed the word,  its a mere suggestion,  Vocal 
protests, fine no point in airing in AI,  protests should be directed to the 
pm/pmo for his perusal/clarifications,  it seems more meaningful for pm to 
ingnore the disability sector altogether rather than  coming up with 
suggestions  as  a first step.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penaliseunderany 
law?




No,

It is so, because

PM's word does carry much weight.

Our opinion is a position, his an imposition.
So, the vocal protests.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of P. Subramani

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 1:07 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise 
underany law?


it seems that postings are more against pm than the word.  If some one 
else
had used useed divyang,  the issue would have been ignored.  This 
discussion

is more politically motivated  than substance
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- Original Message -
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Re: Name-calling: is it possible to penalise 
underany

law?



The topic is being diverted by some people to unnecessarily drag PM
into the discussion.
Name calling is when somebody with intention of hurting deliberately
uses a derrogatory term.
It is not in case of Divyang.

On 12/28/15, Preeti Bhutani  wrote:

What about people who have multiple disabilities ?  when the
body loses one sense it is not compensated by other senses in their 
case.

These words are just words, heard numerous times.

When a door closes, God opens a window, they say, but what we need  a
helping hand to get to the window.

That we need , a helping hand so we all do what  we all are capable of.



We won’t become specially abled till we get some “special" helping hand
from government and society ,

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM, li...@srinivasu.org

wrote:


Sorry... But what are the special abilities that one may have??

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 28-Dec-2015, at 20:42, Aravind Aralaguppe <
aravind.aralagu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think speshaly abled is the rightword
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Lissy Verghese" 
> Date: 28 Dec 2015 14:58
> Subject: Re: [AI] Name-calling: is it possible to penalise under any
> law?
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled." 
> Cc:
>
> Dear friends,
> It is true that when the body loses one sense, it tries to compensate
> for it with whatever it has. Our dear Prime Minister appears a bit
> sympathetic. Strong words won't help. Let's cooperate with our
> Government by suggesting amendments. If we stand together, we will
> definitely be heard. Let organizations all over India come together
> and put forward constructive suggestions so that the efforts of the
> Government for an inclusive India can be fulfilled.
> Thank you!
> Lissy Verghese
>
>
>> On 12/28/15, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> I had strongly pressed for such penal provisions in the new bill.
>> However, we don't know in which avtar the new bill will be passed
>> now.
>>
>> Even I would like to penalize our dear PM under any such provision,
>> if
it
>> were there, for calling us divyang and saying publicly that god 
>> gifts

>> compensatory abilities if he snatches away one.
>>
>> Not a bad bargain, na?
>>
>> Were It true, why not, Mr. PM go in for such a trade-off yourself 
>> and

ask
>> all government babus to follow suit?
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>
>> 0712 2806846
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>> Co-Moderator
>> VIB-India
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>> laughter.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 12:06 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
>> the 

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

this time, you put the correct sportlight
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- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’




I kno that our Prime Minister is not a disability rights activist or a
disability scholar. And he is not well read about the correctness of
the disability terminology. What he suggested is a name hold by many
individuals in India. If one googles, one could find names Divyang
Chaudhary, Divyang Mandal and so on. But using the term collectively
for a group of people would connote different sense. That's where the
problem lies.




On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty 
rpd
bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider 
consultations/discussions
could be accpted/rejected by the views of the disableds/activitists, 
etc.,
my concern is  the posting give an impression that modi is anti-disabled 
by
suggesting such word and not implementing the benefits for the disableds 
and
not solving any of our problems.   surely pm is answerable to us for 
coining

the word.
E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for 
the

‘divyang’



How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:

well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done
rather
than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is 
no

reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was
ruling?
Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"
; "pratiksha.baxi" 
;

"sayeverything" 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for 
the

‘divyang’



As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
people have been unquestioningly burdened with 

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra M odi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

people  can have different views, they need to be aired appropriately.  The
postings in this list giv a different idea.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mahendra Galani" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:40 PM
Subject: [AI] Re: My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra M odi for
the ‘divyang’


Subramani

i am sorry you got this time totaly wrong,
i dont think any one is against PM for name sake,
it is only against the word Divyang.



At 02:31 PM 1/1/2016 +0530, you wrote:

I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty rpd
bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider
consultations/discussions could be accpted/rejected by the views of the
disableds/activitists, etc., my concern is  the posting give an impression
that modi is anti-disabled by suggesting such word and not implementing the
benefits for the disableds and not solving any of our problems.   surely pm
is answerable to us for coining the word. E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192 Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 - Original
Message - From: "avinash shahi"  To:
"AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe
disabled."  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016
2:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra
Modi for the â?~divyangâ?T > How do we make it crystal clear that our fight
is not with the Modi as > a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as
the PM of a largely > uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why
some of us always > think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its
very much > political and we should politicize it to the extent we could. >
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair > share.
We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the > PWD Acd are
the outcome of the social model of disability to some > extent which aims
to put burden on the society for the disabling > condition. Its unfortunate
that handful of us think its a paid > campaign against Mr Modi. We are
merely airing our views in the > publick domain which is vital for the
strengthening of the disability > studies and the disability advocacy. Mr
Subramani, I'm not that old > who could claim decades of experience of
working in the sector. I'm > student and in my limited capacity as a writer
I do my best in raising > serious concerns of ours. We successfully played
our part in stalling > the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the
UPA II. We should > understand the importance of the publick debate and
discussion which > hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not
that  only > writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There
are > large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and >
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No > media
house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the > 'divyang'
why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I > lament why we
don't have publications taking up disability discourse > seriously. Its an
opportune time to expose the politics behind the > terms 'specially-abled'
differently-abled' and 'divyang'. > > > On 1/1/16, P. Subramani
 wrote: >> well avinash, we must fight with the
govt to get  these things done >> rather >> than asking the govt as to why
you haven't done all these.   There is no >> reason for suddenly taking a
hardline against the  after BJP coming to >> power.  Where were you people
and others while the earlier govt was >> ruling? >> Is this paid/concerted
anti-BJP campaign? >> -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com >> Mob:  9738150192
>> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16 >> - Original 
>> Message -

>> From: "avinash shahi"  >> To: "accessindia"
; "jnuvision" >>
; "pratiksha.baxi" ;
>> "sayeverything"  >> Sent: Monday,
December 28, 2015 9:16 PM >> Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank
you Mr Narendra Modi for the >> â?~divyangâ?T >> >> >>> As Mohandas
Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as â?~harijanâ?T sparked off >>> a
political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago, >>>
similarly the Prime Minister  Modiâ?Ts new invention â?~divyangâ?T for >>>
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and >>>
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to >>>
assert oneâ?Ts choice independently. Isnâ?Tt it ironical that the disabled
>>> people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective >>>
denominations imposed by the political class and the 

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[P. Subramani]

I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty rpd 
bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider consultations/discussions 
could be accpted/rejected by the views of the disableds/activitists, etc., 
my concern is  the posting give an impression that modi is anti-disabled by 
suggesting such word and not implementing the benefits for the disableds and 
not solving any of our problems.   surely pm is answerable to us for coining 
the word.

E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’




How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done 
rather

than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no
reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was 
ruling?

Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192
Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"
; "pratiksha.baxi" ;
"sayeverything" 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
‘divyang’



As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
nation to address the disabled as ‘divyang’ is insufficient. If you
really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
the ‘divyang’ affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still ‘divyang for
the Prime Minister, it’s a cruel joke with their lives.‘what’s in a
name’, they say.


--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at 

[AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

[Aakash Bansal]

Hi guys,

We are working on a project for developing websites, which will have
details about all the accessibility devices, Mobile Apps,
Organisations, STEM accessibility, events, Govt, Schemes and
Scholarship Programs, etc with information to be specific to India.

This type of website will be highly useful for the persons, those
suddenly lost their vision due to an accident or a diese.

We would like to know various Accessibility devices and Mobile Apps
which you guys are using and their functionality and performances. We
are also interesting in knowing various organisations working for VI
persoons with their roles, Ways to access STEM content and the various
Govt. Schemes.

Please send us your comments at aakashiitde...@gmail.com and Please
join with us on our facebook page.at https://www.facebook.com/pwsav/

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Thanks and Regards
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Indian Institute of Technology Delhi

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Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[avinash shahi]

I kno that our Prime Minister is not a disability rights activist or a
disability scholar. And he is not well read about the correctness of
the disability terminology. What he suggested is a name hold by many
individuals in India. If one googles, one could find names Divyang
Chaudhary, Divyang Mandal and so on. But using the term collectively
for a group of people would connote different sense. That's where the
problem lies.




On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
> I do respect your views and also the fight/campaign against the faulty rpd
> bill, pm merely suggested a word which after wider consultations/discussions
> could be accpted/rejected by the views of the disableds/activitists, etc.,
> my concern is  the posting give an impression that modi is anti-disabled by
> suggesting such word and not implementing the benefits for the disableds and
> not solving any of our problems.   surely pm is answerable to us for coining
> the word.
> E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
> Mob:  9738150192
> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI]My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
> ‘divyang’
>
>
>> How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
>> a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
>> uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
>> think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
>> political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
>> Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
>> share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
>> PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
>> extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
>> condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
>> campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
>> publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
>> studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
>> who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
>> student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
>> serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
>> the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
>> understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
>> hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
>> writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
>> large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
>> formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
>> media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
>> 'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
>> lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
>> seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
>> terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.
>>
>>
>> On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
>>> well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done
>>> rather
>>> than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no
>>> reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
>>> power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was
>>> ruling?
>>> Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
>>> -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
>>> Mob:  9738150192
>>> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>>> To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"
>>> ; "pratiksha.baxi" ;
>>> "sayeverything" 
>>> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
>>> ‘divyang’
>>>
>>>
 As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
 a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
 similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
 addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
 intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
 assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
 people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
 denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
 without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
 ‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
 Sabha to 

Re: [AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

[Satguru Rathi]

Have you checked with www.eyeway .org?

May be, you might like to collaborate with them rather than starting from the 
scrach.

With best regards,
Satguru
___,__.___
"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

Satguru Rathi
Mobile: +91-9871489945
Email: satgurura...@yahoo.co.in
Skype: satgururathi 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/satguru.rathi.9

From: Aakash Bansal 
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 2:30 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

Hi guys,

We are working on a project for developing websites, which will have
details about all the accessibility devices, Mobile Apps,
Organisations, STEM accessibility, events, Govt, Schemes and
Scholarship Programs, etc with information to be specific to India.

This type of website will be highly useful for the persons, those
suddenly lost their vision due to an accident or a diese.

We would like to know various Accessibility devices and Mobile Apps
which you guys are using and their functionality and performances. We
are also interesting in knowing various organisations working for VI
persoons with their roles, Ways to access STEM content and the various
Govt. Schemes.

Please send us your comments at aakashiitde...@gmail.com and Please
join with us on our facebook page.at https://www.facebook.com/pwsav/

PS: You are most welcome, If you wants to work with us.

Thanks and Regards
Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi

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Re: [AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

[George Abraham]

The thought is good. We started eyeway .org precisely with this dream. The
Universe of life with blindness is huge and growing constantly. To be
effective and consistently relevant, one needs big infrastructure and
personnel.

Given this scenario we are building eyeway as a project that is managed and
run by a network of organisations. Presently we have Enable India/Mitra
Jyoti from Bangalore, Navchetna Institute from Punjab, Saksham, NABB
(Delhi) and Score Foundation from Delhi. We will be adding 12 to 15 more
organisations in the next 3 years to making information available to the
blind population of India.

1800 300 20469 is the number a person can call for information on life with
blindness. The effort of gathering information and sharing information is
massive. We need all the help.

Best,

George
.  

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Aakash Bansal
Sent: 01 January 2016 14:31
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Indian specific website for VI persons

Hi guys,

We are working on a project for developing websites, which will have
details about all the accessibility devices, Mobile Apps,
Organisations, STEM accessibility, events, Govt, Schemes and
Scholarship Programs, etc with information to be specific to India.

This type of website will be highly useful for the persons, those
suddenly lost their vision due to an accident or a diese.

We would like to know various Accessibility devices and Mobile Apps
which you guys are using and their functionality and performances. We
are also interesting in knowing various organisations working for VI
persoons with their roles, Ways to access STEM content and the various
Govt. Schemes.

Please send us your comments at aakashiitde...@gmail.com and Please
join with us on our facebook page.at https://www.facebook.com/pwsav/

PS: You are most welcome, If you wants to work with us.

Thanks and Regards
Aakash Bansal
Indian Institute of Technology Delhi

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Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[George Abraham]

The problem as Rajesh put it, the words from the PM is an imposition. Govt 
officials do not have the backbone to stand up and say that they disagree. If 
the PM has said that PWDs are to be called Diviang then the Govt officials will 
blindly follow (no pun intended). The PM is not a subject matter expert. He has 
made a statement to the best of his understanding. No problem with that. But 
the sector needs to unite and educate and encourage the Govt officials to use 
their brains to avert another outflow of Govt resources to unproductive ends.

On another note I wonder if the group knows that the huge  skill development 
drive that is aiming to train and place 2.5 million disabled persons by 2022 is 
mainly targeted at the Deaf, PH and the intellectually challenged. Even 
organisations who have started with skilling the blind are now shifting by and 
large towards skilling other disabilities. It has become a number game. I am 
afraid the blind persons are going to be left out if we do not assert 
ourselves.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 01 January 2016 14:07
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the 
‘divyang’

How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
> well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done rather
> than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no
> reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
> power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was  ruling?
> Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
> -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
> Mob:  9738150192
> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"
> ; "pratiksha.baxi" ;
> "sayeverything" 
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
> Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
> ‘divyang’
>
>
>> As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
>> a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
>> similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
>> addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
>> intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
>> assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
>> people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
>> denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
>> without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
>> ‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
>> Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
>> efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
>> 2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
>> jobs 

Re: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the ‘divyang’

[avinash shahi]

How do we make it crystal clear that our fight is not with the Modi as
a person. However his suggestion of 'divyang' as the PM of a largely
uneducated country needs to be taken seriously. Why some of us always
think that the disability is apolitical subject. Its very much
political and we should politicize it to the extent we could.
Otherwise, non-disabled will leave us no where to bargain our fair
share.  We should not forget that the entitlements provisioned in the
PWD Acd are the outcome of the social model of disability to some
extent which aims to put burden on the society for the disabling
condition. Its unfortunate that handful of us think its a paid
campaign against Mr Modi. We are merely airing our views in the
publick domain which is vital for the strengthening of the disability
studies and the disability advocacy. Mr Subramani, I'm not that old
who could claim decades of experience of working in the sector. I'm
student and in my limited capacity as a writer I do my best in raising
serious concerns of ours. We successfully played our part in stalling
the passage of the faulty RPD Bill braught by the UPA II. We should
understand the importance of the publick debate and discussion which
hardly takes place in the disability sector. Its not that  only
writing to PMO merrly on twitter would solve our issue. There are
large sections in India who view disabled people as 'divyang'. and
formalizing of the term would do a great damage in the future. No
media house wants to publish anything about the ramification of the
'divyang' why? because there is an agreement with the suggestion. I
lament why we don't have publications taking up disability discourse
seriously. Its an opportune time to expose the politics behind the
terms 'specially-abled' differently-abled' and 'divyang'.


On 1/1/16, P. Subramani  wrote:
> well avinash, we must fight with the govt to get  these things done rather
> than asking the govt as to why you haven't done all these.   There is no
> reason for suddenly taking a hardline against the  after BJP coming to
> power.  Where were you people and others while the earlier govt was  ruling?
> Is this paid/concerted anti-BJP campaign?
> -Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
> Mob:  9738150192
> Facebook: facebook.com/subu.subramani.16
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "accessindia" ; "jnuvision"
> ; "pratiksha.baxi" ;
> "sayeverything" 
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 9:16 PM
> Subject: [AI] My paragraph of the Day: Thank you Mr Narendra Modi for the
> ‘divyang’
>
>
>> As Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi terming dalits as ‘harijan’ sparked off
>> a political and intellectual fervent among the dalits decades ago,
>> similarly the Prime Minister  Modi’s new invention ‘divyang’ for
>> addressing the disabled should spur political awakening and
>> intellectual currents among the disabled. This is an opportunity to
>> assert one’s choice independently. Isn’t it ironical that the disabled
>> people have been unquestioningly burdened with multiple collective
>> denominations imposed by the political class and the mainstream media
>> without taking them on board. If Mr Modi really thinks we are
>> ‘divyang’, then what about extending parliamentary entry through Rajya
>> Sabha to the ‘divyangs’ to run the Upper House smoothly and
>> efficiently? What about creating Ministry of ‘divyang’ affairs in
>> 2016? Why delaying the implementation of the 3 per cent reservation in
>> jobs despite the Apex Court’s directions? Mr Modi, merely asking the
>> nation to address the disabled as ‘divyang’ is insufficient. If you
>> really mean what you say, please increase the budgetary allocation for
>> the ‘divyang’ affairs in the forthcoming Budget which was paltry Rs
>> 5000 crore for the year 2014-15. The large number of disabled people
>> are struggling for the bear minimum, and they are still ‘divyang for
>> the Prime Minister, it’s a cruel joke with their lives.‘what’s in a
>> name’, they say.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Fw: Requesting to support the issue

[vivek doddamani]

true, PM has not completely order Divyang just he had suggested the
word this means he is concerned about disabled persons, you people why
did youpick up the matter of word disabled, disable means we are not
abled persons that means useless but till date why sareen sir agreed
for the word Disabled this is just foolishness.

On 1/1/16, Aaruni Sharma  wrote:
> Hi, I completely agree with your observations. Is it not a great thing that
> the PM is taking every section on board his development agenda? How many
> PMs in the past have talked about disability affairs in their speeches? Our
> PM is very active on social platforms and we can easily communicate our
> objections to him. On another note,  many terms are being refashioned and
> this whole affair is also a part of the exercise it seems.
>
> On 31 December 2015 at 15:53, Vedprakash 
> wrote:
>
>> We may agree or disagree with the term  divyang, we cannot question
>> Modi's
>> intention over the term.
>> He does not have any personal grudges with the disabled. Neither has he
>> got
>> any quarrels to settle with them. But he gave the term to his best
>> wisdom.
>> It is a different issue whether or not we accept it.
>> So, we should debate it in a healthy manner. Let us keep away the
>> politics
>> or Modi from the debate.
>> Yes, I also think that the word does not describe the disabled in real
>> sense. We can continue with the present word or may search for a new one.
>> Let us focus upon these lines.
>>
>> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Avichal Bhatnagar
>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:38 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled. 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Requesting to support the issue
>>
>> Petty politics in the disability sector is the biggest hindrance in the
>> growth of the disabled.
>> People use such opportunities to assert their political ideologies rather
>> than utilizing them for a better tomorrow.
>> Instead of drafting such hardcore petitions, the better way would have
>> been
>> to write him a letter by first thanking for mentioning about the
>> disabled,
>> and then explaining about how such a term is not required.
>>
>>
>> On 12/31/15, Umesha S E  wrote:
>> > rightly said by Ved prakash. in another thread, people referred to it
>> > as hatefull usage. I don't find any reason for modi to have hatred
>> > towards disabled. I also disagree with the term divyang.
>> >
>> > On 12/31/15, Vedprakash  wrote:
>> >> Although I do not agree to the word "divyang" however, I do not
>> >> understand as to how have we been insulted by the suggestion of Modi.
>> >> Modi coined a term for us. We do not agree with it. That is all.
>> >> But attaching hatefulness, insult etc with it is nothing but our
>> >> political expressions.
>> >> Let us not play politics with our own selves.
>> >> We must display our disagreement to the term at all available
>> >> platforms.
>> >> But
>> >> abusing Modi for it serves no purpose.
>> >> There is no evidence that Modi coined the term out of some personal
>> >> illwill towards the disabled. He may not have foreseen the
>> >> consequences of using such term. But his ignorance cannot be termed
>> >> as his sin.
>> >>
>> >> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> >> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:26 PM
>> >> To: Access India 
>> >> Subject: [AI] Fw: Requesting to support the issue
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: r k sarin
>> >> To: sachi57si...@gmail.com
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:11 PM
>> >> Subject: Requesting to support the issue
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The President,
>> >> JNUTA, Jawaharlal Nehru University
>> >>
>> >> Dear Comrade,
>> >>
>> >> On behalf of the Progressive Society for the Sightless Persons, we
>> >> are seeking your support not only to uphold our view but take up this
>> >> issue at all possible levels as the Prime Minister has insulted us
>> >> our earned credibility by calling us DIVYANG instead of Viklang. This
>> >> is true we are disabled due to one or the other challenge but we have
>> >> acquired with the support of our parents, teachers and various
>> >> societies/organisations/associations and social actions. Nobody gets
>> >> right to insult all these people by denying their role.
>> >>
>> >> In our emergency meeting we took its cognisance and passed the
>> >> following resolution and decided to initially pass this message to
>> >> the maximum and then plan to start a signature campaign against it. It
>> Reads:
>> >>
>> >> "... resolved that we strongly 

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Re: [AI] My comments on Divyang on twitter

[Mahendra Galani]

Harish, very well writenn.
thank you very much.

At 05:36 AM 1/1/2016 +, you wrote:

Friends
I have also put it on twitter and you may also choose to offer your 
comments here.

The URL is:
https://twitter.com/hpkotian/status/682616996588998656
The text is:
The newly coined word "Divyang" referring to disabled is welcome 
only to the extent of it being innovative and the thought and 
emotion behind it. However, I would like to present what the 
disabled think about it and why.


For some time we have come across such terms like "differently 
abled", "special persons" etc. Now "divine body" is added to the 
list. If these attributes really mean something, the entire defense 
force should be replaced with persons having all these attributes. 
It makes strategic sense as the demands of the armed personnel 
require all these attributes. The fallacy of these terms gets busted here.


If a person loses the use of organs he does not become divine or 
special. What is required is the support to minimize the effect of 
the disability or find ways to perform a task differently. The word 
disabled rightly clearly gives one a proper idea which organ is 
impacted and to what extent. This is what is required and accepted worldwide.


Why do these terms keep popping up? I think it gives a sense of 
empathy to those using it. However, this is a false sense of empathy 
and in reality it is confused for sympathy. It only gives comfort to 
the person  using it. However, the intent is to give comfort to the 
person to whom it is addressed.
When a disabled person encounters such terminology, the first 
reaction is that the heart sinks, it makes him alarmed and 
apprehensive. He understands, this is a sweet pill before something 
bitter and unpalatable is going to be administered.


What soon follows, his disability is pointed out and why a 
particular service he is supposed to receive in due course cannot be 
given. No attempt is made to look differently and even if the person 
articulates how the disabled can effectively perform the task, His 
plea is summarily disposed and the decision is cast in stone and final.


All these things happens each day to every disabled persons, is 
because we have armed ourselves with convenient myths


It is observed, majority of the disability is acquired and a very 
small percentage of disability is congenital. This means that, 
disability can hit in any stage of one's life. The subject has to 
first accept his disability, understand what he can and cannot do, 
unlearn traditional ways of doing things, learn afresh to perform it 
differently, deal with trauma, fear and a feeling of helplessness. 
The situation gets aggravated when able bodied person create 
artificial barriers because of their lack of understanding of the 
subject, also because they are guided by wrong misconceptions, 
myths,  preconceived notions unwillingness to concede to the 
abilities of the disabled.


On the other hand, able bodied persons consider the disabled 
embodied with supernatural abilities and glorify mundane tasks 
performed by the disabled. This out of proportional attitudes causes 
severe trauma to the disabled persons.


What is truly required, is to have an inclusive environment where 
the needs of the disabled persons are considered adequately when any 
product or infra-structure is designed and executed. This makes it 
easy for the disabled to engage and perform the task all by 
themselves giving them the right sense of dignity and making them 
free from dependence from other persons. We place considerable 
expectations from the Accessible India campaign which the government 
has embarked on.


We seek right attitudes and we encourage movements which gives 
correct information about disability which  are in  proportion. 
Rather, as a part of awareness, we seek to correct the fallacies and 
myths which are prevailing. We seek that only the term disabled is 
used in all legal documents and in all official communique with 
an  emphasis not to use patronizing terms in any official documents.


Regards
Harish Kotian




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Re: [AI] My comments on Divyang on twitter

[Anirban Mukherjee]

Harishji,

wonderfully put! couldn't have been better explained!

greetings, Anirban Mukherjee

On 1/1/16, Mahendra Galani  wrote:
> Harish, very well writenn.
> thank you very much.
>
> At 05:36 AM 1/1/2016 +, you wrote:
>>Friends
>>I have also put it on twitter and you may also choose to offer your
>>comments here.
>>The URL is:
>>https://twitter.com/hpkotian/status/682616996588998656
>>The text is:
>>The newly coined word "Divyang" referring to disabled is welcome
>>only to the extent of it being innovative and the thought and
>>emotion behind it. However, I would like to present what the
>>disabled think about it and why.
>>
>>For some time we have come across such terms like "differently
>>abled", "special persons" etc. Now "divine body" is added to the
>>list. If these attributes really mean something, the entire defense
>>force should be replaced with persons having all these attributes.
>>It makes strategic sense as the demands of the armed personnel
>>require all these attributes. The fallacy of these terms gets busted here.
>>
>>If a person loses the use of organs he does not become divine or
>>special. What is required is the support to minimize the effect of
>>the disability or find ways to perform a task differently. The word
>>disabled rightly clearly gives one a proper idea which organ is
>>impacted and to what extent. This is what is required and accepted
>> worldwide.
>>
>>Why do these terms keep popping up? I think it gives a sense of
>>empathy to those using it. However, this is a false sense of empathy
>>and in reality it is confused for sympathy. It only gives comfort to
>>the person  using it. However, the intent is to give comfort to the
>>person to whom it is addressed.
>>When a disabled person encounters such terminology, the first
>>reaction is that the heart sinks, it makes him alarmed and
>>apprehensive. He understands, this is a sweet pill before something
>>bitter and unpalatable is going to be administered.
>>
>>What soon follows, his disability is pointed out and why a
>>particular service he is supposed to receive in due course cannot be
>>given. No attempt is made to look differently and even if the person
>>articulates how the disabled can effectively perform the task, His
>>plea is summarily disposed and the decision is cast in stone and final.
>>
>>All these things happens each day to every disabled persons, is
>>because we have armed ourselves with convenient myths
>>
>>It is observed, majority of the disability is acquired and a very
>>small percentage of disability is congenital. This means that,
>>disability can hit in any stage of one's life. The subject has to
>>first accept his disability, understand what he can and cannot do,
>>unlearn traditional ways of doing things, learn afresh to perform it
>>differently, deal with trauma, fear and a feeling of helplessness.
>>The situation gets aggravated when able bodied person create
>>artificial barriers because of their lack of understanding of the
>>subject, also because they are guided by wrong misconceptions,
>>myths,  preconceived notions unwillingness to concede to the
>>abilities of the disabled.
>>
>>On the other hand, able bodied persons consider the disabled
>>embodied with supernatural abilities and glorify mundane tasks
>>performed by the disabled. This out of proportional attitudes causes
>>severe trauma to the disabled persons.
>>
>>What is truly required, is to have an inclusive environment where
>>the needs of the disabled persons are considered adequately when any
>>product or infra-structure is designed and executed. This makes it
>>easy for the disabled to engage and perform the task all by
>>themselves giving them the right sense of dignity and making them
>>free from dependence from other persons. We place considerable
>>expectations from the Accessible India campaign which the government
>>has embarked on.
>>
>>We seek right attitudes and we encourage movements which gives
>>correct information about disability which  are in  proportion.
>>Rather, as a part of awareness, we seek to correct the fallacies and
>>myths which are prevailing. We seek that only the term disabled is
>>used in all legal documents and in all official communique with
>>an  emphasis not to use patronizing terms in any official documents.
>>
>>Regards
>>Harish Kotian
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus

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Hello Friends,

Happy New Year to all.

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Re: [AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus

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yes i use it comfortably . with tab and arrow keys you can do it.
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Re: [AI] Paypall account

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Send me the invitation.

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Re: [AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus

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Can you please share me your skype id.



On 1/1/16, Vyas Gajendra  wrote:
> yes i use it comfortably . with tab and arrow keys you can do it.
> gajendra vyas
> phone : 079-30127030
> mobile : 9427065866
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> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 5:55 PM
> Subject: [AI] Query regarding accessibility of Abast anti virus
>
>
>> Hello Friends,
>>
>> Happy New Year to all.
>>
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>> virus for there PC.
>>
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Re: [AI] want to know about available places for scanning book for visually impaired

[madhu]

Dear Mr. Prathap,
Mitra Jyothi can help you. Please write to us what exactly you are looking
for?

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Of Prathap Vasu
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 7:29 PM
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the disabled.
Subject: [AI] want to know about available places for scanning book for
visually impaired

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I am prathap.  I need suggestion regarding scanning book.  I want to
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Re: [AI] i t relief for the blind

[Sameer]

Dear Gajendraji,

The link pasted below gives the various deductions available for A.Y. 2016 - 
17 (financial year ending 31/03/2016). It clearly mentions that the 
deduction u/s 80U is Rs. 75,000/- or Rs. 1,25,000/- depending upon the 
extent of disability.


http://www.incometaxindia.gov.in/Charts%20%20Tables/Deductions.htm

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
-Original Message- 
From: Vyas Gajendra

Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 9:12 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] i t relief for the blind



   hi friends,
my friend requires circular for income tax relief for the blind that is rs. 
125000 .he is denied benefit of rs. 125000 for nonissuance of notification.

he has to submit urgently .
so please forward if any one has it .
thanks
gajendra vyas
phone : 079-30127030
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[AI] Download link of the book 20 stories of Change

[harish]

Hi
This is a publication from NCEPDP.

You have successfully uploaded a file called 20 Stories of Change.pdf (3 MB) to 
sendspace.


Use the following link to retrieve your file:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/6e5a4a


A must read

Harish Kotian
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[AI] want to know about available places for scanning book for visually impaired

[Prathap Vasu]

Hi friends,

I am prathap.  I need suggestion regarding scanning book.  I want to
know about, is there any place for scanning  book at low cost for
visually impaired.  I am living in Chennai  . .  if any address or
phone number, regarding the place for scanning book please inform me.
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[AI] i t relief for the blind

[Vyas Gajendra]

hi friends,
my friend requires circular for income tax relief for the blind that is rs. 
125000 .he is denied benefit of rs. 125000 for nonissuance of notification. 
he has to submit urgently . 
so please forward if any one has it .
thanks 
gajendra vyas 
phone : 079-30127030
mobile : 9427065866

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Re: [AI] want to know about available places for scanning book for visually impaired

[Venkataraman Nagarajan]

You can contact at the following address in Chennai:

*WORTH DIGITIZATION* (A unit of Worth Trust)

No.25, 18th Street,

Venkateswara Nagar

Kottivakkam

CHENNAI - 600041

Phone: +91-44-24511473

email: worthdigi...@worthtrust.org.in

Thanks

Venkataraman

Volunteer, Bookshare India

phone 09443309001

email ranve...@gmail.com

On 1 January 2016 at 22:19, madhu  wrote:

> Dear Mr. Prathap,
> Mitra Jyothi can help you. Please write to us what exactly you are looking
> for?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of Prathap Vasu
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 7:29 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: [AI] want to know about available places for scanning book for
> visually impaired
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I am prathap.  I need suggestion regarding scanning book.  I want to
> know about, is there any place for scanning  book at low cost for
> visually impaired.  I am living in Chennai  . .  if any address or
> phone number, regarding the place for scanning book please inform me.
> Thanking you
>
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