Re: [AI] Wanted to check if signature is working.

[Minar Singh]

Hi Saurav,
Your signature Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
is visible.
You could have checked by yourselve using sent mail option.

On 10/7/23, Saurav Hegde  wrote:
> Hello to the group,
> I have added my qualification to my signature in Gmail.
> So, I wanted to check if it is working properly.
> Please do confirm.
>
> Warm regards,
> Saurav Hegde
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Re: [AI] youtube link for radio cricket commentary

[BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA]

https://liveradios.in/all-india-radio


You can listen all akashvani stations through this webpage including 
other international or national radio stations.



On 10/8/2023 7:31 AM, Shankar C wrote:

friends,
greetings.
can some 1 share the live link for prasar barthi to listen the todays match.



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[AI] youtube link for radio cricket commentary

[Shankar C]

friends,
greetings.
can some 1 share the live link for prasar barthi to listen the todays match.

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[AI] Wanted to check if signature is working.

[Saurav Hegde]

Hello to the group,
I have added my qualification to my signature in Gmail.
So, I wanted to check if it is working properly.
Please do confirm.

Warm regards,
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Re: [AI] Times Of India 4th October 2023

[Payal Ki Jhankar]

Thanks, K. I'm not surprised at all. They will not comment, and continue to
garner support from everywhere to justify the incident. Or, give an offhand
apology, addressing no one and nothing in particular. And, the Director
generals office, as well as the grievance  redressal system will only
support them. I have learnt it the hard way myself.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 at 6:22 pm, Kanchan Pamnani 
wrote:

> *Attention Payyal*
>
> *Couple ‘forgotten’ by IndiGo gets stuck at Istanbul airport for 24hrs*
> --
>
> *saurabh.si...@timesgroup.com *
>
> *New Delhi : *A wheelchairbound man and his wife were recently stranded
> for 24 hours at Istanbul Airport after IndiGo allegedly “forgot” to put
> them on their connecting flight to India.
> Rajesh Shah (64) and his wife Rashmi (59) were returning to Mumbai from
> London and had booked tickets from the airline with the London-Istanbul
> sector operated by Turkish Airlines and the leg to Mumbai by IndiGo. They
> finally got the next day’s flight to Mumbai.
> Comments were sought from IndiGo on Monday and awaited till the time of
> going to press on Tuesday.
> “My parents had a single PNR ticket for the journey on August 17. My
> father is wheelchair-bound as he had suffered multiple strokes and has
> undergone surgeries. My mother also cannot walk long distances so we had
> booked wheelchairs for both of them for use at airports. They landed in
> Istan- bul as per schedule,” said Shahs’ daughter Richa, who is based in
> Bengaluru.
> After landing, the ground staff assisted them with taking the connecting
> flight to Mumbai. “They were made to sit at the boarding gate with their
> boarding passes. When a few hours passed, my mother went to check at the
> counter regarding the flight status. The staff took the boarding passes
> from her and asked them to sit till further instructions. This kept
> happening repeatedly and they were only told: ‘My supervisor is on the way,
> you have to talk to him’,” Richa said.
> The Shahs were finally told that the Mumbai flight had departed. “They
> panicked and reached out to me. I managed to contact IndiGo to assist them.
> The local staff at the airport only spoke Turkish and my parents could not
> communicate with them,” Richa added.
> When she finally managed to speak to someone on the IndiGo helpline from
> India, the airline issued the couple a boarding card for a Mumbai flight
> the next day.
> “My parents are vegetarians and need constant medication and medical
> support. They were stranded in this condition for 24 hours at Istanbul
> airport...on chairs in a secluded place with a loaf of bread and coke. They
> were told that they would be picked up from the same place for the next
> day’s flight,” Richa said.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Petition against stray dogs and other such animal bites and attacks against the blind and physically challenged

[Pinkesh Tailor]

Hi,

can our mission accessibility team help us in achieving this legally.
Also sharing the ling of change.org, please sign this if you haven't
yet. Share this within different group, on twitter, and social media.

https://chng.it/LQtWtvpPXm

Cheers

On 10/4/23, Dhananjay Bhole  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I believe that These shared experiences of persons with visual
> impairment would be helpful for filing court cases.
> Now along with sharing our experiences with Stray dog let prepare
> filing case in appropriate channel.
>
> Lawyers amongs us should   guide further.
>
> Regards
>
> On 10/4/23, vivek doddamani  wrote:
>> I am residing near DU north Campus Mall Road, here we had complaint
>> many times to Delhi Muncipal Corporation, Delhi Government Veterinary
>> Department, and also to LG of Delhi, not a single dog has been picked
>> by any above mentioned authority, instead the old dogs are delivering
>> new puppies every six months and increasing their population, many dog
>> biting instences are recorded from DU north campus & Timarpur area
>> nearby but problem is increasing no solution at all, now we are fedup
>> and have stopped complaining to any authority.
>>
>> On 10/3/23, george.abrah...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> These discussions are good to motivate us to act. Let us mobilise
>>> support
>>> and plan a campaign. The animal lovers cannot be having it all their way
>>> at
>>> our cost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
>>> Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
>>> Sent: 02 October 2023 23:06
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Petition against stray dogs and other such animal
>>> bites
>>> and attacks against the blind and physically challenged
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I agree with the discussion that is going on here, as it is an important
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> Few months ago, I went to a barber very near to my home.
>>>
>>> I am reasonably good with mobility and could manage to reach the shop.
>>>
>>> However, while returning, I was walking, for no reason a dog started
>>> barking
>>> and growling at me probably because of the cane in my hand and so did
>>> the
>>> other dogs.
>>>
>>> I am no animal expert but, if dogs feel threatened because  they feel
>>> that
>>> you have a weapon in your hand, they either run or become aggressive.
>>>
>>> Animal lovers have silly tips like don't try to run away when dogs are
>>> barking at you and whatever.
>>>
>>> In my case at-least, all the logic goes and I really get afraid.
>>>
>>> I yelled for help, fortunately I was near the society so, the watchman
>>> quickly came and scared them.
>>>
>>> However, this gave him a chance to scold me for coming alone on a road
>>> which
>>> is almost safe as cars slow down on it and you can easily walk by the
>>> sides.
>>>
>>> This as usual, is an India specific problem more as, in the US there are
>>> almost no street dogs and only cats which is still fine.
>>>
>>> This hampers the blind person's independence as the last thing you want
>>> is
>>> to be hunted by a group of dogs.
>>>
>>> This also gives conservative people another chance to say that blind
>>> people
>>> should not walk on the streets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Saurav Hegde
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 8:09 PM Pranav Lal >>  > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> This is an extremely significant issue. Another problem is that we have
>>> pet
>>> friendly hotels which means that there is a significant reduction in
>>> safe
>>> spaces for blind people, therefore, please be careful before booking
>>> your
>>> next holiday.
>>>
>>> I am tempted to wear boots and padded jackets, but they are not standard
>>> business attire nor do Indian weather conditions support the wearing of
>>> such
>>> clothing.
>>> pranav
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[AI] Times Of India 4th October 2023

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Attention Payyal

Couple 'forgotten' by IndiGo gets stuck at Istanbul airport for 24hrs

  _  

saurabh.si...@timesgroup.com

New Delhi : A wheelchairbound man and his wife were recently stranded for 24
hours at Istanbul Airport after IndiGo allegedly "forgot" to put them on
their connecting flight to India.
Rajesh Shah (64) and his wife Rashmi (59) were returning to Mumbai from
London and had booked tickets from the airline with the London-Istanbul
sector operated by Turkish Airlines and the leg to Mumbai by IndiGo. They
finally got the next day's flight to Mumbai.
Comments were sought from IndiGo on Monday and awaited till the time of
going to press on Tuesday.
"My parents had a single PNR ticket for the journey on August 17. My father
is wheelchair-bound as he had suffered multiple strokes and has undergone
surgeries. My mother also cannot walk long distances so we had booked
wheelchairs for both of them for use at airports. They landed in Istan- bul
as per schedule," said Shahs' daughter Richa, who is based in Bengaluru.
After landing, the ground staff assisted them with taking the connecting
flight to Mumbai. "They were made to sit at the boarding gate with their
boarding passes. When a few hours passed, my mother went to check at the
counter regarding the flight status. The staff took the boarding passes from
her and asked them to sit till further instructions. This kept happening
repeatedly and they were only told: 'My supervisor is on the way, you have
to talk to him'," Richa said.
The Shahs were finally told that the Mumbai flight had departed. "They
panicked and reached out to me. I managed to contact IndiGo to assist them.
The local staff at the airport only spoke Turkish and my parents could not
communicate with them," Richa added.
When she finally managed to speak to someone on the IndiGo helpline from
India, the airline issued the couple a boarding card for a Mumbai flight the
next day.
"My parents are vegetarians and need constant medication and medical
support. They were stranded in this condition for 24 hours at Istanbul
airport...on chairs in a secluded place with a loaf of bread and coke. They
were told that they would be picked up from the same place for the next
day's flight," Richa said.

 

 

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[AI] requirement of DOPT circular on transfer request

[Tanmay Srivastava]

Hi all,

As the subject line suggests one of my friends in the need of DOPT circular
according to which transfer request can be made on the ground of lack of
accessibility.

Is there any such kind of circular available?

regards

tanmay srivastava

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[AI] 'जोरबा द ग्रीक' निकोस कज़ानजाकिस अनुवादक- श्रुति अग्रवाल (HINDI) Zorba The Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis - Another Audiobook from Disha NGO.

[disha ngo]

  'जोरबा द ग्रीक'  निकोस कज़ानजाकिस  अनुवादक- श्रुति अग्रवाल  (HINDI)
Zorba The Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis  and translated and edited by shruti
agarawal  has been produced by Disha NGO for free use by the visually
impaired. Audio presentation by Anant .

Download from the link below:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QXQ_kLoh4-_MmU-AhKf0Oim21rvWArqb/view?usp=sharing

Most of the books produced by Disha NGO are available on Sugamaya
Pustakalaya, as well.

Also, Disha Audio books are available on
http://www.techassistantforblind.com/

To download click the link given below:

https://www.techassistantforblind.com/audiobooks

Some titles are available on the YouTube channel Audio Books from Disha
NGO-

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9W3lTHKeNIiI3Gj2M2DMpw/featured

To request a book or to volunteer, call mobile no.  904182.

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RE: [AI] Told OTP, Amazon showed delivered, but I received nothing

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Don’t wait. Lodge the FIR with the police. Also make it public on Amazon. K 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shadab Husain
Sent: 07 October 2023 13:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Told OTP, Amazon showed delivered, but I received nothing

Hi friends,

Thanks for your advice.

Several more points have come to light:

The Amazon delivery guy had 3 products to be delivered on my address, but he 
told that there’s an order, and requested its OTP.

The first OTP was of the adapter. He handed the adapter to my sister (who also 
has RP) and waited for her to go.

Hardly 2 minutes later he called me up again and asked me to tell me the OTP 
for the other order also. He made me presume, by the casual way with which he 
spoke, that my sister was standing there. So I told him the OTP, though by then 
he would have left that spot, and repeatedly sent me the OTP to get away with 
the phone.

Generally – not always – when people notice our blindness, they fancy that 
duping them would be easy – anyway:

In hurry he didn’t deliver the cable, which had scheduled delivery for the same 
day (i.e. Oct. 04). Amazon started showing the cable delivery date to Oct. 06, 
and till the time of this writing the cable hasn’t reached me.

This Amazon guy probably delayed the delivery for the fear that he could be 
caught, and now its delivery is scheduled for today.

I have an inkling that he has passed the order on to another guy. I don’t 
remember if Amazon delivery has ever been delayed before, particularly for so 
many days. Therefore this unexpected delay raises doubts.

Amazon’s response on this issue thus far isn’t appreciable.

When we lodged the complaint on Oct. 04 with Amazon, they assured that the 
issue would get resolved by Oct. 06. But yesterday they apprised that it’s 
going to be resolved by Oct. 10.

Had they been earnest, they would have retrieved the call recording of this 
delivery guy and asked him:

1.  Why did he send the OTP multiple times?

2.  Why the cable delivery is delayed?

3.  What made him ask the OTP 2 minutes later?

Additionally, in case Amazon doesn’t resolve this issue, I plan to take the 
following measures:

1.  Going to Amazon’s X handle and filing an open complaint, asking
people in my circle to promote it, and forcing them to carry out a thorough 
investigation.

2.  Filing an FIR in the local police station.

3.  Approaching Consumer Forum and requesting them to –

a.  Check my Amazon buying record to see if I have ever misused the
risk-reversal policy.

b.  Check my friend’s Amazon buying record (with whose id the product
was booked) to see if he has ever misused their full money return policy.



c.  Retrieve the call recording and multiple messages sent by the
delivery guy, and question him on the same.

d.  Ask Amazon what caused the delay in the delivery of the cable.

e.  Ask Amazon why the issue wasn’t resolved on the mentioned date.

f.  Ask amazon why in the message carrying the OTP they never mention
the product name and only the order id is provided. (This makes it trickier for 
the customer to identify the product particularly when there’re multiple 
products scheduled for the same day.)

I don’t think I’ll leave this matter without getting back my money.
Losing seventeen thousand rupees doesn’t feel fun.

Your help required. Mr. Pavasker and other gentlemen posted on X (formerly 
Twitter) about accessibility issues in which we made our voices felt. I hope 
you to kindly offer me your helping hands if it comes to that.

Your friend

Shadab




On 10/5/23, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> Shadab it was a big mistake on your part to share OTP with out 
> actually accepting the package in your hands. Usually in mobile phones 
> its open box delivery wherein delivery partner unbox the packet to 
> show whether mobile phone is inside the packet or no. In these 
> circumstances you should immideatly complaint to local police station 
> and also to the amazon customer care to investigate the matter 
> further. Multiple otp may go in your favour and the actual location of 
> the delivery partner may also relevant. If there is any cctv camera at 
> your building or streat, it might help in investigating the matter. If 
> you have the call recording with that person, you may keep for the 
> futuer.
>
> On 10/5/23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> Hello Shadab,
>> You should never share OTP with anyone. If you were not available at 
>> home then you could have asked the guy to come later specifying the 
>> exact time/day. You can go to the order section and find courier 
>> details and file a complaint with the Courier company and Amazon 
>> also. Please do it at the earliest. I hope you haven't deleted the 
>> OTP and courier boy's mobile number while filing the online complaint 
>> and try to provide those details.
>> Do take a screenshot of 

Re: [AI] Told OTP, Amazon showed delivered, but I received nothing

[Shadab Husain]

Hi friends,

Thanks for your advice.

Several more points have come to light:

The Amazon delivery guy had 3 products to be delivered on my address,
but he told that there’s an order, and requested its OTP.

The first OTP was of the adapter. He handed the adapter to my sister
(who also has RP) and waited for her to go.

Hardly 2 minutes later he called me up again and asked me to tell me
the OTP for the other order also. He made me presume, by the casual
way with which he spoke, that my sister was standing there. So I told
him the OTP, though by then he would have left that spot, and
repeatedly sent me the OTP to get away with the phone.

Generally – not always – when people notice our blindness, they fancy
that duping them would be easy – anyway:

In hurry he didn’t deliver the cable, which had scheduled delivery for
the same day (i.e. Oct. 04). Amazon started showing the cable delivery
date to Oct. 06, and till the time of this writing the cable hasn’t
reached me.

This Amazon guy probably delayed the delivery for the fear that he
could be caught, and now its delivery is scheduled for today.

I have an inkling that he has passed the order on to another guy. I
don’t remember if Amazon delivery has ever been delayed before,
particularly for so many days. Therefore this unexpected delay raises
doubts.

Amazon’s response on this issue thus far isn’t appreciable.

When we lodged the complaint on Oct. 04 with Amazon, they assured that
the issue would get resolved by Oct. 06. But yesterday they apprised
that it’s going to be resolved by Oct. 10.

Had they been earnest, they would have retrieved the call recording of
this delivery guy and asked him:

1.  Why did he send the OTP multiple times?

2.  Why the cable delivery is delayed?

3.  What made him ask the OTP 2 minutes later?

Additionally, in case Amazon doesn’t resolve this issue, I plan to
take the following measures:

1.  Going to Amazon’s X handle and filing an open complaint, asking
people in my circle to promote it, and forcing them to carry out a
thorough investigation.

2.  Filing an FIR in the local police station.

3.  Approaching Consumer Forum and requesting them to –

a.  Check my Amazon buying record to see if I have ever misused the
risk-reversal policy.

b.  Check my friend’s Amazon buying record (with whose id the product
was booked) to see if he has ever misused their full money return
policy.



c.  Retrieve the call recording and multiple messages sent by the
delivery guy, and question him on the same.

d.  Ask Amazon what caused the delay in the delivery of the cable.

e.  Ask Amazon why the issue wasn’t resolved on the mentioned date.

f.  Ask amazon why in the message carrying the OTP they never mention
the product name and only the order id is provided. (This makes it
trickier for the customer to identify the product particularly when
there’re multiple products scheduled for the same day.)

I don’t think I’ll leave this matter without getting back my money.
Losing seventeen thousand rupees doesn’t feel fun.

Your help required. Mr. Pavasker and other gentlemen posted on X
(formerly Twitter) about accessibility issues in which we made our
voices felt. I hope you to kindly offer me your helping hands if it
comes to that.

Your friend

Shadab




On 10/5/23, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> Shadab it was a big mistake on your part to share OTP with out
> actually accepting the package in your hands. Usually in mobile phones
> its open box delivery wherein delivery partner unbox the packet to
> show whether mobile phone is inside the packet or no. In these
> circumstances you should immideatly complaint to local police station
> and also to the amazon customer care to investigate the matter
> further. Multiple otp may go in your favour and the actual location of
> the delivery partner may also relevant. If there is any cctv camera at
> your building or streat, it might help in investigating the matter. If
> you have the call recording with that person, you may keep for the
> futuer.
>
> On 10/5/23, Minar Singh  wrote:
>> Hello Shadab,
>> You should never share OTP with anyone. If you were not available at home
>> then you could have asked the guy to come later specifying the exact
>> time/day. You can go to the order section and find courier details and
>> file
>> a complaint with the Courier company and Amazon also. Please do it at the
>> earliest. I hope you haven't deleted the OTP and courier boy's mobile
>> number while filing the online complaint and try to provide those
>> details.
>> Do take a screenshot of those messages and save somewhere in Ms word file
>> for proof.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 12:53 PM Sunil Sangtani.
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi,
>>> a correct OTP means the product is delivered acording to amazon, no
>>> matter
>>> what.
>>> did you received a message that your phone is delivered?  how many
>>> time and how many OTP has came?
>>>
>>> you might need to do a long fight to 

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