Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Umesha S E]

dear friends,
according to the railway circular, the id card should be obtained from
the DRM office within whose jurisdiction the concession certificate is
issued. but, railway staff say it should be obtained from where the
person is residing. what should be done if the 2 addresses are
different? my address belong to mysore division while my concession
certificate was issued from bangalore.

Umesha


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>
> On 3/10/16, Niranjanraj Urs  wrote:
>> On 3/9/16, Zoher  wrote:
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I
>>> approached
>>> DRM office cst/vt railway station.
>>>
>>> There the person checked my all document and told that the disability
>>> certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is
>>> from
>>> Worli sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to
>>> Mumbai central Railway station to make the I card.
>>>
>>> I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in
>>> station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.
>>>
>>> I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by
>>> the
>>> reply from officer.
>>>
>>> He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your
>>> handicapped
>>> certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under us. I
>>> argued
>>> with him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He replied we
>>> are
>>> more concerned with disability certificate and we cannot verify 2
>>> different
>>> certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should I do next? He
>>> replied
>>> go to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway concession certificate.
>>>
>>> I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45
>>> minutes to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the
>>> time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make
>>> railway concession certificate and I have a disability certificate
>>> issued
>>> by
>>> the same hospital.
>>>
>>> They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task
>>> of
>>> locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from
>>> coal
>>> mine, I completed this task within 25 minutes.
>>>
>>> In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate
>>> format
>>> so go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after
>>> filling
>>> the form get here to certify.
>>>
>>> By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back
>>> to
>>> my office.
>>>
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>> Dear Friends,
>> Very sad ti hear the the trauma you have underwent. First, let me
>> suggest you please send the same mail to Shri Suresh Prabhu Honourable
>> Railway Minister , so that he may take to task his officialsCertainly
>> this is not the way any responsible Railway Official should behave.
>> As far as  the procedure in Kerala (S.Railway) is concerned, a few
>> months back they had issued a press note in all major newspapers,
>> giving the names of of nodel officers with their name, landline no,
>> mobile no etc and the date within which one has to file the
>> application for issuance of id card. The documents to accompany the
>> application were also advertised. The id cards will be issued by the
>> Divisional Office. One can keep in touch  with the nodel officer over
>> phone till id certificate is received.
>> Take my own case. I was issued the blindness certificate by Medical
>> Board when I was at Thiruvananthapuram. Now, I am at Kannur some 500
>> kms from Thiruvananthapuram. I got the certificate  issued by the
>> Medical Officer from a PHC at Kannur based on the above mentioned BC
>> issued by the MB at 

Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Pinkesh Tailor]

What I think is that, other then posting our good and bad experience
with government admin offices on access India, we must also post the
same on our social media pages including government social media
pages, so that it can be viewed by many people on the network.

On 3/10/16, Niranjanraj Urs  wrote:
> On 3/9/16, Zoher  wrote:
>> Friends,
>>
>> Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I
>> approached
>> DRM office cst/vt railway station.
>>
>> There the person checked my all document and told that the disability
>> certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is from
>> Worli sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to
>> Mumbai central Railway station to make the I card.
>>
>> I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in
>> station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.
>>
>> I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by
>> the
>> reply from officer.
>>
>> He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your
>> handicapped
>> certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under us. I
>> argued
>> with him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He replied we
>> are
>> more concerned with disability certificate and we cannot verify 2
>> different
>> certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should I do next? He
>> replied
>> go to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway concession certificate.
>>
>> I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45
>> minutes to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the
>> time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make
>> railway concession certificate and I have a disability certificate issued
>> by
>> the same hospital.
>>
>> They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task
>> of
>> locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from coal
>> mine, I completed this task within 25 minutes.
>>
>> In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate
>> format
>> so go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after
>> filling
>> the form get here to certify.
>>
>> By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back
>> to
>> my office.
>>
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>> of
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> Dear Friends,
> Very sad ti hear the the trauma you have underwent. First, let me
> suggest you please send the same mail to Shri Suresh Prabhu Honourable
> Railway Minister , so that he may take to task his officialsCertainly
> this is not the way any responsible Railway Official should behave.
> As far as  the procedure in Kerala (S.Railway) is concerned, a few
> months back they had issued a press note in all major newspapers,
> giving the names of of nodel officers with their name, landline no,
> mobile no etc and the date within which one has to file the
> application for issuance of id card. The documents to accompany the
> application were also advertised. The id cards will be issued by the
> Divisional Office. One can keep in touch  with the nodel officer over
> phone till id certificate is received.
> Take my own case. I was issued the blindness certificate by Medical
> Board when I was at Thiruvananthapuram. Now, I am at Kannur some 500
> kms from Thiruvananthapuram. I got the certificate  issued by the
> Medical Officer from a PHC at Kannur based on the above mentioned BC
> issued by the MB at Tvpm. My application is received  by the nodel
> officer at Kannur Railway Station and I am waiting to receive the ID
> Card, which is expected by end March.
> What this Nation requires is bureaucrats with compassion and common sense.
> Be optimistic and pray for good days.
> Niranjan.B
>
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Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Niranjanraj Urs]

On 3/9/16, Zoher  wrote:
> Friends,
>
> Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I approached
> DRM office cst/vt railway station.
>
> There the person checked my all document and told that the disability
> certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is from
> Worli sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to
> Mumbai central Railway station to make the I card.
>
> I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in
> station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.
>
> I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by the
> reply from officer.
>
> He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your handicapped
> certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under us. I argued
> with him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He replied we are
> more concerned with disability certificate and we cannot verify 2 different
> certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should I do next? He replied
> go to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway concession certificate.
>
> I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45
> minutes to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the
> time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make
> railway concession certificate and I have a disability certificate issued by
> the same hospital.
>
> They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task of
> locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from coal
> mine, I completed this task within 25 minutes.
>
> In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate format
> so go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after filling
> the form get here to certify.
>
> By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back to
> my office.
>
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Dear Friends,
Very sad ti hear the the trauma you have underwent. First, let me
suggest you please send the same mail to Shri Suresh Prabhu Honourable
Railway Minister , so that he may take to task his officialsCertainly
this is not the way any responsible Railway Official should behave.
As far as  the procedure in Kerala (S.Railway) is concerned, a few
months back they had issued a press note in all major newspapers,
giving the names of of nodel officers with their name, landline no,
mobile no etc and the date within which one has to file the
application for issuance of id card. The documents to accompany the
application were also advertised. The id cards will be issued by the
Divisional Office. One can keep in touch  with the nodel officer over
phone till id certificate is received.
Take my own case. I was issued the blindness certificate by Medical
Board when I was at Thiruvananthapuram. Now, I am at Kannur some 500
kms from Thiruvananthapuram. I got the certificate  issued by the
Medical Officer from a PHC at Kannur based on the above mentioned BC
issued by the MB at Tvpm. My application is received  by the nodel
officer at Kannur Railway Station and I am waiting to receive the ID
Card, which is expected by end March.
What this Nation requires is bureaucrats with compassion and common sense.
Be optimistic and pray for good days.
Niranjan.B


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Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Amar Jain]

Hi Zoer,

Mumbai Central office has a sensible person called Jagdeesh (forgot
the last name). Basically which office to go is decided based on where
you stay. For example, I am on central line so I have to go to CST.

Mumbai district has a single hospital for issuing disability
certificate which is J.J. and from where the concession certificate is
issued does not matter as long as the concession is in new format
(issued in July 2014/15).

If you are unnecessarily facing the problem, then best is to launch a
complaint on pgportal.gov.in because another problem here is that
after issuing the card, they are endorsing on the candidate's medical
certificate whereas it should be done on the old concession
certificate.

Call me up if you need any help.

Regards,
Amar Jain


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Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Mahendra Galani]

last year i was lucky, i got even form from  J J.
At 03:09 PM 3/9/2016 +0530, you wrote:
When I too visited JJ last week to take the 
certificate which I had given for renewal, one 
of my friend asked me to take the Railway 
concession form too. On asking the officers over 
their, they told me too the same thing that you 
need to get the form from the CST station. As it 
was too late I didn’t go to CST. But, what I 
understood from what my friend said is that we 
need to get the form from JJ itself! Can 
somebody guide us with the right procedure 
please? Thanking you in anticipation for your 
kind assistance! Regards, Shraddha. On 3/9/16, 
Zoher  wrote: > Friends, > > 
Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I 
card, for this I approached > DRM office cst/vt 
railway station. > > There the person checked my 
all document and told that the disability > 
certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your 
concession certificate is from > Worli sea face. 
So as per your concession certificate you have 
to go to > Mumbai central Railway station to 
make the I card. > > I went to Mumbai central 
railway station, as searching the DRM office 
in > station premises was itself was a Brilliant 
task of investigation. > > I could locate the 
office after half an hour and again disappointed 
by the > reply from officer. > > He told me that 
you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your 
handicapped > certificate is from Sir JJ 
hospital which does not come under us. I 
argued > with him that my concession certificate 
is from Worli NAB, He replied we are > more 
concerned with disability certificate and we 
cannot verify 2 different > certificate at 2 
different places. I asked what should I do next? 
He replied > go to Sir JJ hospital and make your 
Railway concession certificate. > > I followed 
the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took 
almost 45 > minutes to locate the eye 
department. Over there I came to know that the > 
time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I 
asked I just want to make > railway concession 
certificate and I have a disability certificate 
issued by > the same hospital. > > They replied 
go to clerk office and get the information. 
Again the task of > locating the clerk office 
was as difficult as searching diamond from 
coal > mine, I completed this task within 25 
minutes. > > In clerk office I was told that we 
don't have concession certificate format > so go 
to CST railway station or take the printout 
online and after filling > the form get here to 
certify. > > By this time my energy was 
completely exhausted and I decided to go back 
to > my office. > > Register at the dedicated 
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Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

This is really irritating. There is no procedural unanimity. If the Central 
railway issues an i.d. card, will the western railway not recognise it? But 
wherever the issue of giving concession comes, the government offices always 
make a fus and make you run from pillar to post. Moreover, all the work is 
never completed in one turn and you have to visit these offices again and 
again. They never clearly tell you what are the different requirements, and 
once you reach an office, they will send you back to get something elce. If 
you are working, one casual leave is never sufficient. In Maharashtra, just 
to get the card of State Transport concession, first you have to go to the 
social welfair department of the Zilla Parishad, fill  up a form, get the 
card, then go to the buss depot to get the stamp and signature of the depot 
manager. Here, the treatment given  to you is like that of a dog. After 
waiting in line for hours together, they declare that the time is over, and 
we have to go again in the next wweek. I don't know when the situation will 
improve.
- Original Message - 
From: "Zoher" <zos...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 2:21 PM
Subject: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card



Friends,

Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I 
approached DRM office cst/vt railway station.


There the person checked my all document and told that the disability 
certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is from 
Worli sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to 
Mumbai central Railway station to make the I card.


I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in 
station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.


I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by the 
reply from officer.


He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your 
handicapped certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under 
us. I argued with him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He 
replied we are more concerned with disability certificate and we cannot 
verify 2 different certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should 
I do next? He replied go to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway 
concession certificate.


I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45 
minutes to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the 
time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make 
railway concession certificate and I have a disability certificate issued 
by the same hospital.


They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task of 
locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from coal 
mine, I completed this task within 25 minutes.


In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate 
format so go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after 
filling the form get here to certify.


By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back 
to my office.


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Re: [AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[shraddha edke]

When I too visited JJ last week to take the certificate which I had
given for renewal, one of my friend asked me to take the Railway
concession form too.

On asking the officers over their, they told me too the same thing
that you need to get the form from the CST station.

As it was too late I didn’t go to CST. But, what I understood from
what my friend said is that we need to get the form from JJ itself!

Can somebody guide us with the right procedure please?

Thanking you in anticipation for your kind assistance!

Regards,
Shraddha.

On 3/9/16, Zoher  wrote:
> Friends,
>
> Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I approached
> DRM office cst/vt railway station.
>
> There the person checked my all document and told that the disability
> certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is from
> Worli sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to
> Mumbai central Railway station to make the I card.
>
> I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in
> station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.
>
> I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by the
> reply from officer.
>
> He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your handicapped
> certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under us. I argued
> with him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He replied we are
> more concerned with disability certificate and we cannot verify 2 different
> certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should I do next? He replied
> go to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway concession certificate.
>
> I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45
> minutes to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the
> time for case paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make
> railway concession certificate and I have a disability certificate issued by
> the same hospital.
>
> They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task of
> locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from coal
> mine, I completed this task within 25 minutes.
>
> In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate format
> so go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after filling
> the form get here to certify.
>
> By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back to
> my office.
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
> mobile phones / Tabs on:
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[AI] This is how I could not make my railway disability card

[Zoher]

Friends,

Today I decided to apply for Railway disabled I card, for this I approached DRM 
office cst/vt railway station.

There the person checked my all document and told that the disability 
certificate is of Sir JJ Hospital and your concession certificate is from Worli 
sea face. So as per your concession certificate you have to go to Mumbai 
central Railway station to make the I card.

I went to Mumbai central railway station, as searching the DRM office in 
station premises was itself was a Brilliant task of investigation.

I could locate the office after half an hour and again disappointed by the 
reply from officer.

He told me that you have to visit CST/VT railway station as your handicapped 
certificate is from Sir JJ hospital which does not come under us. I argued with 
him that my concession certificate is from Worli NAB, He replied we are more 
concerned with disability certificate and we cannot verify 2 different 
certificate at 2 different places. I asked what should I do next? He replied go 
to Sir JJ hospital and make your Railway concession certificate.

I followed the instruction and went to JJ hospital and took almost 45 minutes 
to locate the eye department. Over there I came to know that the time for case 
paper is only up to 11:30 am. I asked I just want to make railway concession 
certificate and I have a disability certificate issued by the same hospital. 

They replied go to clerk office and get the information. Again the task of 
locating the clerk office was as difficult as searching diamond from coal mine, 
I completed this task within 25 minutes.

In clerk office I was told that we don't have concession certificate format so 
go to CST railway station or take the printout online and after filling the 
form get here to certify. 

By this time my energy was completely exhausted and I decided to go back to my 
office.

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