Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[pranaya rani]

That depends on the mobility and illness of the patient, assistant is need for 
purchasing medicines in particular.  Although it may not be must but always 
advised/preferred

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Subject: Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

People with sight do not have that ‘someone’ because of any insistence. It’s 
purely a choice and availability factor. Do note though, forms do require 
contact details of a person. But no hospital has ever insisted on physical 
presence 24 by 7.

And are we then saying that if you don’t have an attendent, you don’t get the 
treatment at all?

Regards,
Amar Jain

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> On 10-May-2018, at 6:55 PM, pranaya rani <pranayara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Most  sighted patients   in any hospital for that matter do have someone as
> their either their family member/relative.   It is for the hospital to
> decide whether a patient needs an assistant subject to  patients
> illness/diseases.   Obviously do have some responsibility towards the safety
> of the patient and hence assistant is a must.  No need to make a big fuss on
> this matter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Amar Jain
> Sent: 10 May, 2018 6:57 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant
> 
> RPWD has provision on non-discrimination and there is a specific provision
> on healthcare in Section 25 which obligations are on appropriate government.
> 
> If you can follow-up, then it can be a great opportunity to put pressure on
> MCI to notify standards on this.
> 
> Regards,
> Amar Jain 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 09-May-2018, at 6:32 PM, Poonam <poonam.vai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi.
> Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam
> clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without an
> assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days since
> I was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. However, on
> the second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the doctors
> started saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The reason
> they gave me was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had already
> arranged laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely nothing I
> could not do alone. However, they still said no and I had to return.
>> Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me
> treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation with
> an assistant.
>> I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of
> denying a person with disability into a  hospital/clinic without an
> assistant. I really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable
> having one. Does the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals
> are private, not government funded.
>> I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the
> hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are
> welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> Poonam
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[Asudani, Rajesh]

I agree.
If you by choice want noone with you,  maybe, you should pay them to assist you 
beyond usual responsibilities of doctors and nurses.
A courteous request also goes a long way.

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Sent: 10 May 2018 18:55
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

Most  sighted patients   in any hospital for that matter do have someone as
their either their family member/relative.   It is for the hospital to
decide whether a patient needs an assistant subject to  patients
illness/diseases.   Obviously do have some responsibility towards the safety
of the patient and hence assistant is a must.  No need to make a big fuss on 
this matter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Amar Jain
Sent: 10 May, 2018 6:57 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

RPWD has provision on non-discrimination and there is a specific provision on 
healthcare in Section 25 which obligations are on appropriate government.

If you can follow-up, then it can be a great opportunity to put pressure on MCI 
to notify standards on this.

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 09-May-2018, at 6:32 PM, Poonam <poonam.vai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
> Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi.
Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam 
clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without an 
assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days since I 
was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. However, on the 
second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the doctors started 
saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The reason they gave me 
was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had already arranged 
laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely nothing I could not 
do alone. However, they still said no and I had to return.
> Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me
treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation with an 
assistant.
> I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of
denying a person with disability into a  hospital/clinic without an assistant. 
I really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable having one. Does 
the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals are private, not 
government funded.
> I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the
hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are 
welcome.
>
>
> Poonam
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[Amar Jain]

People with sight do not have that ‘someone’ because of any insistence. It’s 
purely a choice and availability factor. Do note though, forms do require 
contact details of a person. But no hospital has ever insisted on physical 
presence 24 by 7.

And are we then saying that if you don’t have an attendent, you don’t get the 
treatment at all?

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 10-May-2018, at 6:55 PM, pranaya rani <pranayara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Most  sighted patients   in any hospital for that matter do have someone as
> their either their family member/relative.   It is for the hospital to
> decide whether a patient needs an assistant subject to  patients
> illness/diseases.   Obviously do have some responsibility towards the safety
> of the patient and hence assistant is a must.  No need to make a big fuss on
> this matter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Amar Jain
> Sent: 10 May, 2018 6:57 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant
> 
> RPWD has provision on non-discrimination and there is a specific provision
> on healthcare in Section 25 which obligations are on appropriate government.
> 
> If you can follow-up, then it can be a great opportunity to put pressure on
> MCI to notify standards on this.
> 
> Regards,
> Amar Jain 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 09-May-2018, at 6:32 PM, Poonam <poonam.vai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi friends,
>> Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi.
> Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam
> clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without an
> assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days since
> I was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. However, on
> the second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the doctors
> started saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The reason
> they gave me was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had already
> arranged laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely nothing I
> could not do alone. However, they still said no and I had to return.
>> Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me
> treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation with
> an assistant.
>> I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of
> denying a person with disability into a  hospital/clinic without an
> assistant. I really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable
> having one. Does the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals
> are private, not government funded.
>> I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the
> hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are
> welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> Poonam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[pranaya rani]

Most  sighted patients   in any hospital for that matter do have someone as
their either their family member/relative.   It is for the hospital to
decide whether a patient needs an assistant subject to  patients
illness/diseases.   Obviously do have some responsibility towards the safety
of the patient and hence assistant is a must.  No need to make a big fuss on
this matter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: 10 May, 2018 6:57 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

RPWD has provision on non-discrimination and there is a specific provision
on healthcare in Section 25 which obligations are on appropriate government.

If you can follow-up, then it can be a great opportunity to put pressure on
MCI to notify standards on this.

Regards,
Amar Jain 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 09-May-2018, at 6:32 PM, Poonam <poonam.vai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi.
Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam
clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without an
assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days since
I was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. However, on
the second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the doctors
started saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The reason
they gave me was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had already
arranged laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely nothing I
could not do alone. However, they still said no and I had to return.
> Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me
treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation with
an assistant.
> I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of
denying a person with disability into a  hospital/clinic without an
assistant. I really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable
having one. Does the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals
are private, not government funded.
> I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the
hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are
welcome.
> 
> 
> Poonam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[Amar Jain]

RPWD has provision on non-discrimination and there is a specific provision on 
healthcare in Section 25 which obligations are on appropriate government.

If you can follow-up, then it can be a great opportunity to put pressure on MCI 
to notify standards on this.

Regards,
Amar Jain 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 09-May-2018, at 6:32 PM, Poonam  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi. 
> Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam 
> clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without an 
> assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days since I 
> was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. However, on the 
> second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the doctors started 
> saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The reason they gave me 
> was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had already arranged 
> laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely nothing I could not 
> do alone. However, they still said no and I had to return.
> Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me 
> treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation with 
> an assistant.
> I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of denying 
> a person with disability into a  hospital/clinic without an assistant. I 
> really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable having one. Does 
> the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals are private, not 
> government funded.
> I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the 
> hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are 
> welcome.
> 
> 
> Poonam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant

[P. Subramani]

Well I have stayed in sreedareeyam hospital for treatment for 3 weeks 
without any sighteds' assistance.  Infact, we were 4 totally blind persons. 
No doctor/hospital authority insisted upon us to have sighteds' assistance. 
They were very cooperative towards us. Initially or on the first day, they 
brought  medicines and personnel to our room for treatment assuming that we 
blind wouldn't be  navigate independently to the designated treatment rooms. 
From the next day, we insisted that  they do not all these exercises and we 
ourselves went to the treatment rooms to get the treatment.  from then on, 
things were normal.   We used to go to the canteen on our own daily although 
room service was available at certain charges. During the free time, we 
roamed the  entire hospital and surroundings as well.  The nurses were also 
very accommodative. I do know Dr. Sri Kanth for a long time.  He  was one of 
the doctors treating us, but fortunately, there weren't any problems.   From 
your mail, it seems either your mobility  is not that good (no offense to 
you personally, just a general observation/probability) or the doctors have 
terribly misjudged.
- Original Message - 
From: "Poonam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: 09 May, 2018 6:32 PM
Subject: [AI] Denied access to hospitals without assistant



Hi friends,
Last month, I was admitted into Sreedhareeyam Ayurvedic Hospital in Kochi. 
Before going, I had met the main doctor, Dr. Srikanth in the Sreedhareeyam 
clinic Bangalore and discussed plans about going to the hospital without 
an assistant. He suggested that I have an assistant for the first 3 days 
since I was new and then I could manage alone. So this is what I did. 
However, on the second last day before my assistant was due to leave, the 
doctors started saying it would not be possible for me to stay alone. The 
reason they gave me was that I did not have enough vision to manage. I had 
already arranged laundry, cafeteria services, etc and there was absolutely 
nothing I could not do alone. However, they still said no and I had to 
return.
Another Naturopathy hospital, Jindal also has continuously denied me 
treatment and finally agreed if I take the most expensive accomodation 
with an assistant.
I am writing this to ask any of you who know about the legal angle of 
denying a person with disability into a hospital/clinic without an 
assistant. I really do not need an assistant nor do I feel comfortable 
having one. Does the 2016 PWD Act have anything on this? The two hospitals 
are private, not government funded.
I plan to write to the NHAB (National Health Accreditation Board), the 
hospital authorities and some journalist friends. Any more suggestions are 
welcome.



Poonam









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