Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2020-01-06 Thread Alexey Melnikov
2 AM > *To:* consulta...@vanderstok.org; Carsten Bormann > *Cc:* ace-cha...@ietf.org; Jim Schaad ; Benjamin > Kaduk ; Ace Wg ; The IESG ; > draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org; Klaus Hartke > *Subject:* Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: > (with DI

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-31 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 06:16:34PM +0100, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Dec 20, 2019, at 17:34, Klaus Hartke wrote: > > > > I would prefer if draft-ietf-ace-coap-est didn't say anything here, > > since the Uri-Host and Uri-Port options and whether they should be > > omitted or not is entirely

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-26 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Hi Peter, On Mon, Dec 23, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Peter van der Stok wrote: HI all, We had this discussion about this specific text several times. I like to keep at least some text for the following reason: Implementers, new to coap

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-23 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Hi Peter, On Mon, Dec 23, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Peter van der Stok wrote: > HI all, > > We had this discussion about this specific text several times. > I like to keep at least some text for the following reason: > Implementers, new to coap without a photographic memory of RFC7252 text, are >

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-23 Thread Peter van der Stok
HI all, We had this discussion about this specific text several times. I like to keep at least some text for the following reason: Implementers, new to coap without a photographic memory of RFC7252 text, are surprised by the absence of uri host in the examples, and tend to assume an error. The

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-20 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
Datatracker Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:27 AM To: The IESG Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org; i...@augustcellars.com; ace-cha...@ietf.org; ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Alexey Melnikov has entered

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-20 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Dec 20, 2019, at 17:34, Klaus Hartke wrote: > > I would prefer if draft-ietf-ace-coap-est didn't say anything here, > since the Uri-Host and Uri-Port options and whether they should be > omitted or not is entirely specified by CoAP [RFC7252].* Klaus has an important point here. We need to

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-20 Thread Klaus Hartke
Alexey Melnikov wrote: > I am tempted to suggest that the text should be change to "SHOULD include > Uri-Host and Uri-Port". Basically, if an implementation knows for sure that > it is not needed, the SHOULD can be violated, but the recommended default is > safe for all cases. I would prefer

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-20 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Hi Ben, On Fri, Dec 20, 2019, at 12:47 AM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 05:27:06AM -0800, Alexey Melnikov via Datatracker > wrote: > > DISCUSS: > > > > 5.4. Message Bindings > > > >o The CoAP Options used are Uri-Host, Uri-Path, Uri-Port, Content- > > Format,

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-19 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Dec 20, 2019, at 01:47, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > >> The statement above >> >> When omitted, they are logically >> assumed to be the transport protocol destination address and port >> respectively. Explicit Uri-Host and Uri-Port Options are >> typically used when an

Re: [Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-19 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 05:27:06AM -0800, Alexey Melnikov via Datatracker wrote: > Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and

[Ace] Alexey Melnikov's Discuss on draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2019-12-18 Thread Alexey Melnikov via Datatracker
Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-17: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to