Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-22 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Richardson > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 8:46 AM > To: Carsten Bormann > Cc: Jim Schaad ; Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > ; ace ; Klaus Hartke > ; draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] Embedded Conte

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-22 Thread Michael Richardson
Carsten Bormann wrote: >> I am thinking of two different URLs, that is not do the difference by >> a query parameter but by changing the URI. > Note that the query parameters are part of the URI, so fundamentally > there is no difference between putting the info there or in the p

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
rsten Bormann' Cc: 'ace' ; 'Klaus Hartke' Subject: RE: [Ace] Embedded Content Types Panos, Someplace you are not understanding what I am saying. > -Original Message- > From: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 7:21 PM > T

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Jim Schaad
Panos, Someplace you are not understanding what I am saying. > -Original Message- > From: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 7:21 PM > To: Jim Schaad ; 'Carsten Bormann' > Cc: 'ace' ; 'Klaus Hartke'

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
akis (pkampana) ; 'ace' ; 'Klaus Hartke' ; draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Ace] Embedded Content Types It is true that the query parameters are part of the type. However, the use of two different URIs allows for the discovery to figure out if both versions are

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Jim Schaad
because it is not looked for. Jim > -Original Message- > From: Carsten Bormann > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 2:52 PM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) ; ace > ; Klaus Hartke ; draft-ietf-ace-coap- > e...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] Embedded C

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Feb 21, 2019, at 23:31, Jim Schaad wrote: > > I am thinking of two different URLs, that is not do the difference by a query > parameter but by changing the URI. Note that the query parameters are part of the URI, so fundamentally there is no difference between putting the info there or in t

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Jim Schaad
d ; 'Carsten Bormann' > Cc: ace@ietf.org; 'Klaus Hartke' ; draft-ietf-ace- > coap-...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Ace] Embedded Content Types > > > This is why I would prefer doing something like "/est/skg" and > "/est/skg/yyy". > > Not

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
s (pkampana) ; 'Carsten Bormann' Cc: ace@ietf.org; 'Klaus Hartke' ; draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Ace] Embedded Content Types > -Original Message- > From: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:32 PM > To:

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:32 PM > To: Carsten Bormann > Cc: Jim Schaad ; ace@ietf.org; Klaus Hartke > ; draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Ace] Embedded Content Types > > Tha

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
returned attribute values are the accepted values by the server in the "Accept" option. -Original Message- From: Carsten Bormann Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 8:11 PM To: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) Cc: Jim Schaad ; ace@ietf.org; Klaus Hartke ; draft-ietf-ace-coap-

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Michael Richardson
Carsten Bormann wrote: > I think this is just a misunderstanding — the idea wasn’t to supply the > parts under different URIs, but to make up different URIs for > retrieving the different combinations coming in one multipart-core, in > one transaction. > or, say > /skg/2

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-21 Thread Peter van der Stok
Hi, For me the est-coaps solution with different URIs is a good one. as suggested by Carsten, /skg/ctnumbers seems straightforward. In the return of /.well-known/core, the CT hints will help. No need to define multiple content-format combinations. Peter Jim Schaad schreef op 2019-02-20 18:58: >

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-20 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Feb 20, 2019, at 22:33, Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) wrote: > > If we broke the requests to different URIs, it means that a client needs to > keep track of his transactions and on top of it he needs to correlate the key > and the cert he receives at a later time. I think this is just a misu

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-20 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 1:34 PM > To: Jim Schaad ; ace@ietf.org; Klaus Hartke > > Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Ace] Embedded Content Types > > Hi Jim, > >

Re: [Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-20 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
it in this context. Any strong objections? Rgs, Panos -Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Jim Schaad Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 12:59 PM To: ace@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-ace-coap-...@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] Embedded Content Types The CoRE working had an interesting vi

[Ace] Embedded Content Types

2019-02-20 Thread Jim Schaad
The CoRE working had an interesting virtual meeting this morning (my time) where the main topic of discussion was how to deal with embedded content types. This is a current problem that needs to be addressed with the EST document which is currently trying to deal with last call comments. The log