Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-03-05 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Ace On Behalf Of Panos Kampanakis > (pkampana) > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:34 AM > To: Klaus Hartke > Cc: ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est > > Thanks Klaus. > > OK about waiting for

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-03-05 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
r/draft-ietf-ace-coap-est.txt Rgs, Panos -Original Message- From: Klaus Hartke Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 8:45 AM To: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) Cc: ace@ietf.org; Jim Schaad Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est Panos Kampanakis wrote: > > But can't the cl

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-03-05 Thread Klaus Hartke
Panos Kampanakis wrote: > > But can't the client just be configured out-of-band with the URIs directly? > > That is right. We could mandate only .well-known URIs. But I think we ought > to let a deployment use non-default URIs. [...] I was aiming at something different, but, re-reading my questio

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-03-04 Thread Michael Richardson
Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) wrote: >> But can't the client just be configured out-of-band with the URIs directly? > That is right. We could mandate only .well-known URIs. But I think we > ought to let a deployment use non-default URIs. For example some > usecase might not want t

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-03-03 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
e example, maybe just remove > Uri-Host and Uri-Port from the example and also this paragraph? I wanted to keep it in there. We explain that it can be assumed from DTLS if omitted, but I think it is worth to show how the option would be included. I had trouble finding a COAP Uri-Host and po

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-02-27 Thread Klaus Hartke
Hi Panos, thanks for addressing all issues so thoroughly. I've performed another quick review of draft-ietf-ace-coap-est-09. 5.1. The discovery looks much better now! I think you had 5 or 6 ways for a client to construct or discover the URIs of an EST deployment. Now it seems there are only two:

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-02-24 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
D. Panos -Original Message- From: Benjamin Kaduk Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 7:08 PM To: Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) Cc: Klaus Hartke ; Jim Schaad ; ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 09:00:05PM +, Panos Kampanakis (pkampa

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-02-24 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
27;t always afford to > > establish a DTLS connection for every EST transaction." -- I'm not aware of > > any requirement that says CoAP clients must establish a new DTLS connection > > for every request... > > EST mandates using a new truststore after a cac

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-02-22 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
uot; -- I'm not aware of > any requirement that says CoAP clients must establish a new DTLS connection > for every request... EST mandates using a new truststore after a cacerts request which most usually means a new TLS connection. We can't always require the client to do that i

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-02-12 Thread Klaus Hartke
Jim Schaad wrote: > The chairs believe that the EST over CoAP draft is nearing the point it > should be sent to the IESG for publication. We are therefore going to have > a Working Group Last Call on this document. WGLC will until 29th of this > month. Please review the document and send comment

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-02-06 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
more feedback. Rgs, Panos -Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Jim Schaad Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:59 AM To: ace@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est This message concludes the last call for this document. The authors are requested to create and

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-02-02 Thread Jim Schaad
I believe that I already said yes. Jim > -Original Message- > From: Michael Richardson > Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2019 12:27 PM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: 'Esko Dijk' ; ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for &g

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-02-02 Thread Michael Richardson
Jim Schaad wrote: > Of anybody on the mailing list believes that the document should not > add a new CoAP content type for "application/pkix-cert" please speak up > before next Monday. Can we go ahead with this request now? :-) -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IP

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-01-28 Thread Jim Schaad
rg > Subject: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est > > The chairs believe that the EST over CoAP draft is nearing the point it should > be sent to the IESG for publication. We are therefore going to have a > Working Group Last Call on this document. WGLC will until 29th of this

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-01-24 Thread Jim Schaad
January 24, 2019 8:01 AM > To: Esko Dijk > Cc: ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for > embedded devices > > > Esko Dijk wrote: > > So to reduce code size for embedded implementations it would be very >

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-01-24 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > So to reduce code size for embedded implementations it would be very > beneficial if the EST Server would support an additional content > format: > application/pkix-cert (see RFC 5280) So, to implement this in the specification, we need an additional Content-T

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-01-24 Thread Esko Dijk
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 06:05 To: 'Michael Richardson' ; Esko Dijk Cc: ace@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices > -Original Message- > From: Ace On Behalf Of Michael Richardson > Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-01-23 Thread Jim Schaad
> -Original Message- > From: Ace On Behalf Of Michael Richardson > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:27 PM > To: Esko Dijk > Cc: ace@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for > embedded devices > > > Esko Dijk

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-01-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > My main comment on this draft is based on recent experience with an > embedded implementation. In the draft, the content format > "application/pkcs7-mime;smime-type=certs-only" is used to transport a > single certificate back to the client. However, in the embed

Re: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est - optimization for embedded devices

2019-01-23 Thread Esko Dijk
slow server can acknowledge the request with a 2.31 code" -> 2.31 is not specified in RFC 7252. Best regards Esko Dijk -Original Message- From: Ace On Behalf Of Jim Schaad Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 05:03 To: ace@ietf.org Subject: [Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est The cha

[Ace] WGLC for draft-ietf-ace-coap-est

2019-01-13 Thread Jim Schaad
The chairs believe that the EST over CoAP draft is nearing the point it should be sent to the IESG for publication. We are therefore going to have a Working Group Last Call on this document. WGLC will until 29th of this month. Please review the document and send comments both positive and negati