RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Marcus.Oh
You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup an AD int stub 
zone.  I'm not well versed in the security aspects of either... but either one 
of those would work fine... 

:m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: DNS setup questions

OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a while since I had to 
do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM work, not enough AD admin lately...

Here's the scenario:

Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using AD-integrated DNS, 
secure updates only
Partner domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using BIND DNS.

We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We need to set up DNS 
so that both domains can resolve at minimum SRV records to keep the trust 
working and allow member enumeration for selective auth setup. 
IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain pointing to the other 
domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the BIND servers to the nameservers tab, 
right? Anything else I need to do on the W2K3 DNS side? I really think I'm 
missing something here, but I can't find any information with the answers I 
need...

Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP addresses, what's 
to prevent them from setting up something other than a secondary server? I know 
AD integrated won't allow another AD integrated DNS server outside the current 
domain, but I just want to make sure I don't leave anything insecure...

Thanks...

**
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Laura A. Robinson
I'd probably take a look at conditional forwarding and/or stub zones instead
of doing Win2K-style secondaries. What version of BIND is in use in the
other forest? BIND 8+ supports conditional forwarding, and BIND 9+ supports
stub zones, IIRC.

Laura 

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 Charlie Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM 
 work, not enough AD admin lately...
 
 Here's the scenario:
 
 Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
 AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only Partner domain: W2K3 
 functional level single-domain forest using BIND DNS.
 
 We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We 
 need to set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at 
 minimum SRV records to keep the trust working and allow 
 member enumeration for selective auth setup. 
 IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the 
 BIND servers to the nameservers tab, right? Anything else I 
 need to do on the W2K3 DNS side? I really think I'm missing 
 something here, but I can't find any information with the 
 answers I need...
 
 Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
 addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't 
 allow another AD integrated DNS server outside the current 
 domain, but I just want to make sure I don't leave anything 
 insecure...
 
 Thanks...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 ** 
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Laura A. Robinson
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/358c7852-d23b-4668-ad
f5-6ad2fe001e9f1033.mspx?mfr=true

Sorry, probably should have dug up the link before sending my other
response. :-)

Laura 

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 Charlie Kaiser
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 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM 
 work, not enough AD admin lately...
 
 Here's the scenario:
 
 Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
 AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only Partner domain: W2K3 
 functional level single-domain forest using BIND DNS.
 
 We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We 
 need to set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at 
 minimum SRV records to keep the trust working and allow 
 member enumeration for selective auth setup. 
 IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the 
 BIND servers to the nameservers tab, right? Anything else I 
 need to do on the W2K3 DNS side? I really think I'm missing 
 something here, but I can't find any information with the 
 answers I need...
 
 Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
 addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't 
 allow another AD integrated DNS server outside the current 
 domain, but I just want to make sure I don't leave anything 
 insecure...
 
 Thanks...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 ** 
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Since the partner forest is not using AD DNS zones but a Unix BIND system, 
wouldn't that eliminate the ability to do the conditional forwarding? I thought 
that required both sides to be W2K3 AD DNS...

**
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**  

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 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup 
 an AD int stub zone.  I'm not well versed in the security 
 aspects of either... but either one of those would work fine... 
 
 :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Charlie Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: DNS setup questions
 
 OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM 
 work, not enough AD admin lately...
 
 Here's the scenario:
 
 Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
 AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only
 Partner domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest 
 using BIND DNS.
 
 We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We 
 need to set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at 
 minimum SRV records to keep the trust working and allow 
 member enumeration for selective auth setup. 
 IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the 
 BIND servers to the nameservers tab, right? Anything else I 
 need to do on the W2K3 DNS side? I really think I'm missing 
 something here, but I can't find any information with the 
 answers I need...
 
 Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
 addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't 
 allow another AD integrated DNS server outside the current 
 domain, but I just want to make sure I don't leave anything 
 insecure...
 
 Thanks...
 
 **
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 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Marcus.Oh
Yeah I think you're right.  I completely overlooked that part about Bind. :)

:m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

Since the partner forest is not using AD DNS zones but a Unix BIND system, 
wouldn't that eliminate the ability to do the conditional forwarding? I thought 
that required both sides to be W2K3 AD DNS...

**
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**  

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup 
 an AD int stub zone.  I'm not well versed in the security 
 aspects of either... but either one of those would work fine... 
 
 :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Charlie Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: DNS setup questions
 
 OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM 
 work, not enough AD admin lately...
 
 Here's the scenario:
 
 Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
 AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only
 Partner domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest 
 using BIND DNS.
 
 We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We 
 need to set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at 
 minimum SRV records to keep the trust working and allow 
 member enumeration for selective auth setup. 
 IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the 
 BIND servers to the nameservers tab, right? Anything else I 
 need to do on the W2K3 DNS side? I really think I'm missing 
 something here, but I can't find any information with the 
 answers I need...
 
 Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
 addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't 
 allow another AD integrated DNS server outside the current 
 domain, but I just want to make sure I don't leave anything 
 insecure...
 
 Thanks...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Not at all. Both BIND and MS DNS support conditional forwarding (depending
on BIND version and OS version, respectively). The destination for the
conditional forwarding is irrelevant, since it's the servers receiving the
queries from the clients that are responsible for forwarding (or not) the
queries. There is no specific interaction between the two DNS
implementations beyond standard querying.

Laura 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Charlie Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:20 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 Since the partner forest is not using AD DNS zones but a Unix 
 BIND system, wouldn't that eliminate the ability to do the 
 conditional forwarding? I thought that required both sides to 
 be W2K3 AD DNS...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:55 PM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
  
  You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup 
 an AD int 
  stub zone.  I'm not well versed in the security aspects of 
 either... 
  but either one of those would work fine...
  
  :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie 
  Kaiser
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: DNS setup questions
  
  OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since 
  I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM work, not enough AD 
  admin lately...
  
  Here's the scenario:
  
  Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
  AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only Partner domain: W2K3 
 functional 
  level single-domain forest using BIND DNS.
  
  We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. 
 We need to 
  set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at minimum SRV 
 records to 
  keep the trust working and allow member enumeration for 
 selective auth 
  setup.
  IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the 
  other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the BIND servers to the 
  nameservers tab, right? Anything else I need to do on the W2K3 DNS 
  side? I really think I'm missing something here, but I 
 can't find any 
  information with the answers I need...
  
  Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
  addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than 
  a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't allow another AD 
  integrated DNS server outside the current domain, but I 
 just want to 
  make sure I don't leave anything insecure...
  
  Thanks...
  
  **
  Charlie Kaiser
  W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
  Systems Engineer
  Essex Credit / Brickwalk
  510 595 5083
  ** 
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Marcus.Oh
Hmmm.  Looks like BIND 8 supports conditional forwarding and BIND 9 supports 
stub zones.

:m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: Oh, Marcus (CCI-Atlanta) 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:19 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

Yeah I think you're right.  I completely overlooked that part about Bind. :)

:m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

Since the partner forest is not using AD DNS zones but a Unix BIND system, 
wouldn't that eliminate the ability to do the conditional forwarding? I thought 
that required both sides to be W2K3 AD DNS...

**
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**  

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup 
 an AD int stub zone.  I'm not well versed in the security 
 aspects of either... but either one of those would work fine... 
 
 :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Charlie Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: DNS setup questions
 
 OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM 
 work, not enough AD admin lately...
 
 Here's the scenario:
 
 Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
 AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only
 Partner domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest 
 using BIND DNS.
 
 We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We 
 need to set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at 
 minimum SRV records to keep the trust working and allow 
 member enumeration for selective auth setup. 
 IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the 
 BIND servers to the nameservers tab, right? Anything else I 
 need to do on the W2K3 DNS side? I really think I'm missing 
 something here, but I can't find any information with the 
 answers I need...
 
 Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
 addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't 
 allow another AD integrated DNS server outside the current 
 domain, but I just want to make sure I don't leave anything 
 insecure...
 
 Thanks...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Kurt Falde
Conditional forwarding does not require AD DNS on the side that it is 
forwarding to so this would not be an issue, however I would personally 
recommend the use of stub zones as they can be AD integrated which means you do 
not have to worry about manually configuring secondary zones across multiple 
servers in your environment but only need to create it once and allow it to 
replicate out to your other DC/DNS servers.

As for the opposing BIND side of the thing yeah make add them to the 
nameservers tab allow zone transfers only to servers listed on the names server 
tabs and setup secondaries on those BIND servers.  You may also want to check 
the notify option so that the secondaries are notified when there are updates 
to the zone that they should transfer depending on what level of frequency you 
want IXFR's to happen at.


Kurt Falde, MCSE NT4/2K/2K3, CCSE+, CISSP
Premier Field Engineer
Northeast Region
Microsoft Corporation
Mobile Phone: (301) 367-2721
 Windows Vista

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:20 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

Since the partner forest is not using AD DNS zones but a Unix BIND system, 
wouldn't that eliminate the ability to do the conditional forwarding? I thought 
that required both sides to be W2K3 AD DNS...

**
Charlie Kaiser
W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

 You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup an AD int
 stub zone.  I'm not well versed in the security aspects of either...
 but either one of those would work fine...

 :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie
 Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: DNS setup questions

 OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a while since
 I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM work, not enough AD
 admin lately...

 Here's the scenario:

 Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using
 AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only Partner domain: W2K3 functional
 level single-domain forest using BIND DNS.

 We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. We need to
 set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at minimum SRV records to
 keep the trust working and allow member enumeration for selective auth
 setup.
 IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain pointing to the
 other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the BIND servers to the
 nameservers tab, right? Anything else I need to do on the W2K3 DNS
 side? I really think I'm missing something here, but I can't find any
 information with the answers I need...

 Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP
 addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something other than
 a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't allow another AD
 integrated DNS server outside the current domain, but I just want to
 make sure I don't leave anything insecure...

 Thanks...

 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions

2006-10-26 Thread Laura A. Robinson
There seems to be a bit of confusion on a couple of fronts. 

First, neither stub zones nor conditional forwarding are dependent on the
destination (e.g., external forest/external environment) DNS
implementation. DNS servers respond to queries; that is what DNS does, no
matter what version or whose implementation. The mechanisms used in both
stub zone population and conditional forwarding are queries. The only reason
that the BIND DNS implementation would need to be 8+ is if it is necessary
for the forest that is serviced by the BIND servers to also do conditional
forwarding and/or stub zones on behalf of their clients.

Second, there is one and only one item in DNS that requires pure Windows
Server 2003 DNS, and that is the use of AD-integrated DNS zones that are
stored in partitions other than the domain partition. Leaving BIND out of
the picture for a moment, conditional forwarding and stub zones do, of
course, require Win2K3 DNS servers, but that does not necessarily preclude
the use of Windows 2000 DNS servers in the environment. Personally, I'd use
Windows Server 2003 regardless, but that's simply because it gives you more
options and you don't have to worry about what Win2K supports. (And as a
side note, you can even have Win2K DNS servers if you're using AD-integrated
DNS zones that are stored in partitions other than the domain partition- you
just won't be able to use the Win2k servers as replicas.)

This may prove useful: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/88 

HTH,

Laura

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 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:21 PM
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 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 Hmmm.  Looks like BIND 8 supports conditional forwarding and 
 BIND 9 supports stub zones.
 
 :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Oh, Marcus (CCI-Atlanta)
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:19 PM
 To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 Yeah I think you're right.  I completely overlooked that part 
 about Bind. :)
 
 :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Charlie Kaiser
 Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:20 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
 
 Since the partner forest is not using AD DNS zones but a Unix 
 BIND system, wouldn't that eliminate the ability to do the 
 conditional forwarding? I thought that required both sides to 
 be W2K3 AD DNS...
 
 **
 Charlie Kaiser
 W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
 Systems Engineer
 Essex Credit / Brickwalk
 510 595 5083
 **  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:55 PM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS setup questions
  
  You could use conditional-forwarding.  You could also setup 
 an AD int 
  stub zone.  I'm not well versed in the security aspects of 
 either... 
  but either one of those would work fine...
  
  :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie 
  Kaiser
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:32 PM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: DNS setup questions
  
  OK; my Google-fu isn't working well today, and it's been a 
 while since 
  I had to do any advanced DNS work. Too much BPM work, not enough AD 
  admin lately...
  
  Here's the scenario:
  
  Our domain: W2K3 functional level single-domain forest using 
  AD-integrated DNS, secure updates only Partner domain: W2K3 
 functional 
  level single-domain forest using BIND DNS.
  
  We are planning to establish a trust between the domains. 
 We need to 
  set up DNS so that both domains can resolve at minimum SRV 
 records to 
  keep the trust working and allow member enumeration for 
 selective auth 
  setup.
  IIRC, we need to create secondary zones in each domain 
 pointing to the 
  other domain, and on the W2K3 side, add the BIND servers to the 
  nameservers tab, right? Anything else I need to do on the W2K3 DNS 
  side? I really think I'm missing something here, but I 
 can't find any 
  information with the answers I need...
  
  Also, if I allow zone transfers to the other domain's DNS IP 
  addresses, what's to prevent them from setting up something 
 other than 
  a secondary server? I know AD integrated won't allow another AD 
  integrated DNS server outside the current domain, but I 
 just want to 
  make sure I don't leave anything insecure...
  
  Thanks...
  
  **
  Charlie Kaiser
  W2K3 MCSA/MCSE/Security, CCNA
  Systems Engineer
  Essex Credit / Brickwalk
  510 595 5083
  ** 
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Setup questions

2002-05-19 Thread Kevin McLaughlin

Marvin,

Please look at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/server/help/default.asp?url=/windows
2000/en/server/help/sag_DNS_imp_DelegatingZones.htm  for information
regarding DNS zone delegation.  This should answer your questions.

Kevin

Kevin E. McLaughlin
MCSE, MCT, MCNE, MCNI, CCNA
Senior Network Engineer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marvin Cummings
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 10:25 AM
To: NT 2000 Discussions; ActiveDir
Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Setup  questions


Excuse me if this post seems long winded, but I have to 
ask.
My w2k home network looks like this:
dsl w/linksys router
tzo client hosting registered domain name of blah.com
w2k server as DC running AD, DNS, DHCP
DNS is AD-Integrated
assigned dhcp addresses of 192.168.1.?
seperate w2k exchange server as member server
seperate w2k web server as member server
2 newly configured and seperate child domains
DNS on each child domain is AD-Integrated
My questions are:
1. I can't seem to access my server internally by its 
friendly name, www.blah.com. I can ping its IP address  
name fine. I have to type http://192.168.1.? to see my 
default web page. I know this is a DNS issue and that it 
has something to do with internal and external namespaces 
but I'm not sure how to go about resolving it. Until I 
added my 2 child domains and started reading on DNS I 
wasn't sure that I needed a seperate namespace and I'm 
hoping I don't. I'd like to have one namespace as I don't 
see having to worry about anyone accessing anything 
internally. Any help on this is appreciated.
2. Since adding my child domains I recieve an event 1265 
that states that the DSA operation is unable to proceed 
because of a DNS lookup failure. Could this be related to 
my current setup? Or can anyone shed any light as to the 
reason behind this error. Not having any luck at Microsoft.
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Setup questions

2002-05-19 Thread Rick Kingslan

Kevin,

Good redirect.  Good article, too!

Rick Kingslan - Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000]
  Microsoft Certified Trainer
  MCSA, MCSE+I - Windows NT / 2000
  
Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic.
  ---  Arthur C. Clarke


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Kevin McLaughlin
 Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:32 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Setup  questions
 
 
 Marvin,
 
   Please look at 
 http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/en/server/help/default.as
 p?url=/windows
 2000/en/server/help/sag_DNS_imp_DelegatingZones.htm  for 
 information regarding DNS zone delegation.  This should 
 answer your questions.
 
 Kevin
 
 Kevin E. McLaughlin
 MCSE, MCT, MCNE, MCNI, CCNA
 Senior Network Engineer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
 Marvin Cummings
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 10:25 AM
 To: NT 2000 Discussions; ActiveDir
 Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Setup  questions
 
 
 Excuse me if this post seems long winded, but I have to 
 ask.
 My w2k home network looks like this:
 dsl w/linksys router
 tzo client hosting registered domain name of blah.com
 w2k server as DC running AD, DNS, DHCP
 DNS is AD-Integrated
 assigned dhcp addresses of 192.168.1.?
 seperate w2k exchange server as member server
 seperate w2k web server as member server
 2 newly configured and seperate child domains
 DNS on each child domain is AD-Integrated
 My questions are:
 1. I can't seem to access my server internally by its 
 friendly name, www.blah.com. I can ping its IP address  
 name fine. I have to type http://192.168.1.? to see my 
 default web page. I know this is a DNS issue and that it 
 has something to do with internal and external namespaces 
 but I'm not sure how to go about resolving it. Until I 
 added my 2 child domains and started reading on DNS I 
 wasn't sure that I needed a seperate namespace and I'm 
 hoping I don't. I'd like to have one namespace as I don't 
 see having to worry about anyone accessing anything 
 internally. Any help on this is appreciated.
 2. Since adding my child domains I recieve an event 1265 
 that states that the DSA operation is unable to proceed 
 because of a DNS lookup failure. Could this be related to 
 my current setup? Or can anyone shed any light as to the 
 reason behind this error. Not having any luck at Microsoft.
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