Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-27 Thread Staff
Sorry new message on 2015-01. No consensus was reached. Even on RIPE website information that nothing interesting and good in that proposal https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-01 --- After analyzing the data that is currently available, the RIPE NCC does not anticipate that

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-27 Thread Garry Glendown
But everybody here just understood that nobody listen to them. Yes. It's good idea to submit new policy canceling this one policy or making it better! But if nobody listen to members why to do so? Democracy sucks sometimes... unfortunately, most participants in the list weighed the arguments

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-27 Thread Sander Steffann
Hello Yuri, No consensus was reached. Yes there was. I declared so a few days ago. If you truly believe that my decision to do that was wrong then please follow the Appeals procedure described in section 4 of our PDP (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-642) but please stop repeating

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented?(Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-26 Thread Tore Anderson
* Gert Doering (Funny that people didn't complain when we changed the IPv6 allocation policy to permit /35 holders to extend their existing allocation to a /32 just by asking for it - *that* was a retroactive change of policy...) Indeed. Or when we allowed transfers in the first place. Or

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-25 Thread poty
Hello, I do not see any wrong cases here. When my company obtained our address block in 1998 there was one set of policies, since then the policies have been evolved a lot. Nobody asks you to return your address space or changes its USAGE rules, it's only transfer delays, not more, not less.

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented?(Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-25 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 05:14:51PM +0100, r...@europeiptv.net wrote: Hello, I do not see that the political right have retroactive effect, is not very democratic change the rules of what was received with other policies, but if I see the correct application of this policy to

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)

2015-07-23 Thread Aleksey Bulgakov
Hi. Be ready to IPv4 exhaustion and don't tell that you haven't been warned :) 23 Июл 2015 г. 14:52 пользователь Marco Schmidt mschm...@ripe.net написал: Dear colleagues, Consensus has been reached, and the proposal for a change to ripe-643, IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies