Re: Tape utilization not logic

2004-09-14 Thread Steve Harris
Ameerul, Sometimes, if your data compresses well, you will get more on the tape than you expect. Conversely, sometimes, if the data doesn't compress well you will get less. TSM just reports how much it has written. You will be able to get it all back. Regards Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin

FW: Starting Tivoli Storage Manager Device Driver

2004-09-14 Thread Shankar CH
Hi all, Wishes of all the ADSM-L Users I am getting a problem with the IBM LTO 3582 and TSM 5.2 with Windows 2000 Operating system in TSM Installation time. Problem : I am not able to start Tivoli Starage Manager driver. pls give me How to

Re: FW: Starting Tivoli Storage Manager Device Driver

2004-09-14 Thread Anoop T Das
Shankar, The specificed service does not exist as an installed service anymore since introduction of 5.2 .TSM Device Driver has become a plug and play driver that must be loaded for your library and tape devices through Windows Device Manager. Anoop IBM Certified Specialist - AIX, Tivoli

Re: Wishlist Item

2004-09-14 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM
Hi Jack! Before we started using ADSM we ran a backup application called ESM on our MVS mainframe. It was one of the most sophisticated backup applications at that time (1993). It was created by a company called Legent and later on Legent was bought by Computer Associates. They relabeled it to

Re: Tape utilization not logic

2004-09-14 Thread Anoop T Das
Ameerul, Steve is right. If you are using databases then all the null blocks will be considered as no data and track of the same will be kept rather than storing them too. This will help reduce the total size of the database when being backed up. + whatever Steve has commented. Dont worry, it'll

ANS1074W user abort

2004-09-14 Thread Warren, Matthew (Retail)
Hallo TSM'ers, We are racking our brains to determine why several of our backups have begun to fail intermittently with the error ANS1074W. We are using client version 5.2.2.0, StorageAgent version 5.2.2.3 on sunos 5.9, server version 5.2.2.3 on aix 5.2.0.0. We've looked at the usual

Re: ANS1074W user abort

2004-09-14 Thread Das, Samiran (IDS ECCS)
You may have an invalid command line parameter or your command line may be too long. Try to recollect if you have changed anything in recent past, which might have broken your command line. This usually happens if you forget to enclose wildcard (*) in double quotes and your command line becomes

which drivers ?

2004-09-14 Thread goc
are for TSM 5.2.3.2 on Win2000 for Magstar 3575 lib with 3 3570 drives tsm device driver is stopped and i cant start it Reasonthe system cannot find the device specified no matter what drivers i install, the nothing happens ... should i reboot 100 more times ? i-m really stuck now. and i-m

Re: which drivers ?

2004-09-14 Thread Richard Sims
The 3575 is a SCSI-attached library, and thus prone to all the vagaries which make SCSI as loved as it is. If you haven't checked your SCSI path for issues such as loose cable, bent pin(s), wrong terminator, etc. then that's worth doing. Given the age of the technology, it's possible that the

Re: which drivers ?

2004-09-14 Thread goc
the thing is that everything worked fine until i manually removed the paths and tape devices from console manager ... the drivers seems to be ok, butt still ... the drivers i have now installed are IBM corp version 5.0.6.7 ... AKA magstar.sys and ntutil.exe ... man, i-m lost here .. thanks g.

Re: Wishlist Item

2004-09-14 Thread Coats, Jack
Eric, Thanks for the response! Why bother? For the same reason that using TSM 'Incremental Forever' approach makes sense. TSM, without co-location, has the same problem you mentioned, about the fragmentation for restores. TSM already does the scan and checking of attributes to

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Re: seek problems on LTO2 tapes

2004-09-14 Thread Rushforth, Tim
In our case we were actually running TSM 5.1.6.4 (without Tapealert) on our Production system. We stumbled upon the tapealert message by hooking up a test 5.2.2.4 system to our 3584 library to see if it had the slow problem reading our tapes. We were quite impressed to see the tape alert

Re: ANS1074W user abort

2004-09-14 Thread Warren, Matthew (Retail)
A bit more hunting around on IBM turned this up; http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC40730 It appears to be similar to our issue, but we are not dealing with particularly large filesystems. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

effect of moving a client from one policy domain to another

2004-09-14 Thread Richard Hammersley
I've been asked to revamp our policy domains/policy sets/management classes/copy groups. They want new ones of everything. The goal is to group clients in different ways and have different values for the version and retention attributes. After I move a client from the old policy domain to the

Re: Wishlist Item

2004-09-14 Thread Doug Thorneycroft
There are products out there that take it one step further by storing the data in Chunks rather than files, and storing only one copy of each chunk. They us an algorithm on the clients to describe the chunks, and claim excellent performance. I've been to a presentation from Avamar, but don't know

SQL full backup plus log

2004-09-14 Thread Luc Beaudoin
Hi all Is there anyone that are doing FULL SQL plus FULL LOG BACKUP every day... If yes ... what is the way to do it with the scheduler and an option file thanks Luc

Sessions being canceled?

2004-09-14 Thread Coats, Jack
I am getting this kind of message in several of my clients: 09/13/2004 00:00:43 ANS1809W Session is lost; initializing session reopen procedure. 09/13/2004 00:00:43 ANS1809W Session is lost; initializing session reopen procedure. 09/13/2004 00:00:58 ANS1811S TSM session could not be

Huge system object

2004-09-14 Thread Thomas Denier
One of our Windows clients sent an 18 gigabyte system object backup last night. Results from 'query occ' commands suggest that it has been doing this for the last five nights. I ran a 'query content' command against one of the volumes holding the lastest backup and got a list of files like the

Re: Sessions being canceled?

2004-09-14 Thread Das, Samiran (IDS ECCS)
Verify that you have sufficient numbers of maxsessions and maxschedsessions defined at server. Regards, Samiran Das -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coats, Jack Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SQL full backup plus log

2004-09-14 Thread Joe Crnjanski
As Richard S. says; you have to go back to the books. Check TDP for Microsoft SQL Server Installation and User's guide pdf manual that comes with the Installation CD. Appendix C tells you how to setup TDP using Central Scheduler. If you are doing log backup remember to change SQL recovery mode

TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread Mike
Given that TSM has TDP for many databases and that TDP can do incremental backups at the record level. What are the thoughts for using TDB vs. using FlashCopy on an ESS/Shark? The FlashCopy must backup the entire database each time, unless the backup database could be mounted to a secondary server

Re: Second level collocation

2004-09-14 Thread Warren, Matthew (Retail)
As I was reading this, I immediatley thought, hoho, if he can get the admins to properly classify their data. Then you wrote: On another front, am I too optimistic to think that local client administrators will appropriately classify their data? Your experiences on this front too will be

Re: Reducing reuse delay - immediate effect ?

2004-09-14 Thread Warren, Matthew (Retail)
For the time it takes for tapes to return from pending when the reusedelay has been altered, the TSM server examines pending volumes with a view to returning them to scratch once every hour, from the time the server was started. Matt. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

Re: Sessions being canceled?

2004-09-14 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Check the server activity log for the corresponding timeframe to see what is going on there. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb

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Re: Wishlist Item

2004-09-14 Thread Prather, Wanda
Similar experience here. It SOUNDS like a good idea. But I actually sat down and took a look at the problem a couple years ago in response to an inquiry from management. Our PC hard drives are getting bigger and bigger - not uncommon to have 40-80 GB hard drives now. As such, the percentage of

Re: Huge system object

2004-09-14 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Very strange... You should open up a problem with IBM support if you have not already done so.I don't know under what system object component these files are falling, but you might try running: dsmc query systeminfo sfp and examining the resulting dsminfo.txt file to see if these are somehow

Re: effect of moving a client from one policy domain to another

2004-09-14 Thread Prather, Wanda
I'll take a shot at this. When you move a client from one domain to another: 1) No data moves. Even if the backup copy groups in the new domain point to different storage pools, the existing backup data stays right where it is (and is still perfectly restore-able). If you want to move the data,

Re: Huge system object

2004-09-14 Thread fred johanson
Is this a replicated filesystem? At 11:07 AM 9/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: One of our Windows clients sent an 18 gigabyte system object backup last night. Results from 'query occ' commands suggest that it has been doing this for the last five nights. I ran a 'query content' command against one of

Re: effect of moving a client from one policy domain to another

2004-09-14 Thread Das, Samiran (IDS ECCS)
Wanda, I would like to differ from your third observation. If a Management class does not exist in a new domain, expiration will be governed by policy in the default Management class of new domain. In case default Management class does not contain either or both of backup/archive copygroup,

Re: TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread Prather, Wanda
I am not an expert in this area, but I think there are several issues involved. FlashCopy is taking a physical image of the VOLUME(s) involved. The Data Base manager doesn't know you're doing it. SO while it's easy and low cost to do the FlashCopy (it's pretty much an outboard hardware process),

Re: TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread James Choate
To add to what Wanda is saying: When a FlashCopy is initiated, the DB/Mail server that you are flashing should be quiesced prior to the FlashCopy being initiated. FlashCopy can also be expensive. -Original Message- From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread Das, Samiran (IDS ECCS)
ITSM for Hardware is designed to take care of this requirement. Try the following link. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/StorageManagerforHardware5.2.1.h tml Regards, Samiran Das -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Choate

Re: TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 10:59:02AM -0600, James Choate wrote: When a FlashCopy is initiated, the DB/Mail server that you are flashing should be quiesced prior to the FlashCopy being initiated. Us Symmetrix users don't have such a restriction. :-) But for the original discussion: think about

Re: SQL full backup plus log

2004-09-14 Thread Luc Beaudoin
thanks for the answer ... I'm trying to find the SQL recovery mode ... don't fing it ... any idea where to see or configure it thanks again Luc Beaudoin Administrateur RĂ©seau / Network Administrator Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254 Joe Crnjanski [EMAIL

Re: effect of moving a client from one policy domain to another

2004-09-14 Thread Richard Hammersley
Thank you for the information. It is very helpful. To make sure I have it clear in my mind is this what would be ? Old setup: OldPD/OldPolicySet/OldManClass OldCopyGroup --- ClientA Filename S.S New setup: NewPD/NewPolicySet/NewManClass NewCopyGroup --- ClientA Filename S.S New copy group copy

Re: Huge system object

2004-09-14 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Good thought, this could be FRS. Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good

Re: Huge system object

2004-09-14 Thread Prather, Wanda
FWIW, 5.00 is Win2K 5.01 is WinXP 5.02 is Win2003 server -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 12:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Huge system object Very strange... You should

Re: Second level collocation

2004-09-14 Thread Prather, Wanda
.(clip) so I was thinking of front-ending the collocated storage pools with non-collocated pools,... Isn't that called a diskpool??!? ;) Seriously, if you are worried about wear and tear, the easiest (and probably cheapest) way to solve that problem is just to put a big enough pool of

Re: Second level collocation

2004-09-14 Thread Steve Harris
Thanks Wanda and Matt Sometimes its useful to measure the usefulness of the complexity that this product will support against the real world. I've also had a long off-list conversation with Allen Rout which was most productive. I think the KISS principle should rule in this case. That, and

Re: TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread Steve Harris
Mike I've got few unusual DBMSs to deal with that have no TDP. (Sybase, Reality, Cache) Sometimes we can back up to disk and then to TSM (Sybase, MSSQL and oracle at the moment as we've only just got the TDP licences) For Reality, I've cranked up the adsmpipe utilty But for Cache, its

Re: TDP vs. FlashCopy thoughts

2004-09-14 Thread James Choate
ITSM for hardware is nice if I'm using ESS. But the following link does not address what to do if I'm using Hitachi, EMC, HP, FaStT? Best Regards, James -Original Message- From: Das, Samiran (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/14/2004 11:02 AM