Backup STG Problem?

2007-08-23 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Everyone, I hope all of you hade a great vacation during the summer. But I have a funny problem with my TSM Server. My TSM Server is 5.4.0.3 based on Windows Server 2003 and an IBM 3584 Library. In the library I have 4 x LTO2 drives and 1 x LTO3 drive. Hopefully next week will I have 2 x

Re: How does a library choose a drive?

2007-08-23 Thread CAYE PIERRE
Hi, From my observations, it depend of the action TSM is doing. For example, when TSM is in initialisation state, there is a validation of all the drives, in element addresses order. When TSM is doing an audit libr checkl=y, it work the same For that cases, and others, concerning ALL drives,

Re: Backup STG Problem?

2007-08-23 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Christian, Something strange in your output : why does TSM wait for a mount point having devclass LTOCLASS, if you have defined different devclasse for your primary (LTO2CLASS) and copy pools (LTO3CLASS) ? Cheers. Arnaud

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Rhodes
Richard, You asked thought provoking questions, but didn't answer mine. Hi, again . . . I guess I don't quite understand the situation. You have a remote site with a server you want to backup to your TSM server. Then, you ask why you would need VV's back at the remote site. What I don't

Re: Why virtual volumes

2007-08-23 Thread Markus Engelhard
Hi Keith, virtual volumes used to be a big benefit while bridging big distances for DR of backup data via fc/scsi was extremely expensive. Today, I use the feature in our multi-site infrastucture to do my additional db-snapshots to one (central) tsm-server. No tape is involved in this part of

Re: How does a library choose a drive?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Sims
On Aug 23, 2007, at 5:36 AM, CAYE PIERRE wrote: BUT when doing recurent task, as backup and so, TSM SEEMS to act as Richard explain, asking the OS for a drive, so it's the OS which make the choice, based on it own algorythm. TSM performs I/O through operating systems services, but that is not

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Lawrence Clark
I'm curious. We've never relied on storing the TSM db backup to tape. We backup to disk and rcp it to a 2nd site. That's seems the simplest method. Anyone else do the same? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/23/2007 9:00:35 AM Richard, You asked thought provoking questions, but didn't answer mine. Hi,

Re: Remove from scratch

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Sims
On Aug 22, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Avy Wong wrote: Hello, I have 3 volumes that after all the investigations(I did all the audits, restore, checkout libv) , I see that they have been physically removed from the library. Currently their status are 'scratch' . Is there a way to remove the

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Keith Arbogast
Nicholas Cassimatis wrote: With all of the features in TSM, there are a number of them that don't work for specific situations. Simultaneous writes on backup/ migration, virtual volumes, NDMP backups, 3rd mirrors of DB and Log volumes, adding documentation to your Prepare file - lots of features

Re: How does a library choose a drive?

2007-08-23 Thread Mcnutt, Larry E.
Hi Pierre, et al. We are in the process of adding a new VTL to our TSM server, and we are trying to understand if there is a way to configure the drives that will spread the I/O load across the available fcsi ports. The AIX server has 4 4GB fibre connections to the VTL appliance. We are

Backup - read once write twice?

2007-08-23 Thread Lamar Cope
We are doing this (same disk primary pool backed to two different tape copy pools): parallel backup stg criticaldp criticaltc maxpr=1 wait=yes backup stg criticaldp backupcopy maxpr=1 wait=yes It results in: 143 Backup Storage Pool Primary Pool CRITICALDP, Copy Pool CRITICALTC,

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Keith Arbogast
Richard Rhodes wrote: I guess I don't quite understand the situation. Richard, I'm sorry I haven't made our situation clearer. In the current phase of the project we are building a TSM server in Bloomington to backup local clients to disk which will be migrated to virtual volumes in

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Rhodes
Richard, I'm sorry I haven't made our situation clearer. In the current phase of the project we are building a TSM server in Bloomington to backup local clients to disk which will be migrated to virtual volumes in Indianapolis. After migrating local clients to the new server, we plan to

Retained backups for scrapped hardware

2007-08-23 Thread Thomas Denier
We are running a TSM 5.3 server. For a variety of technical and political reasons we are retaining backups from a number of systems that were shut down and disposed of months or even years ago. I am trying to figure out how TSM licensing works in this case. My initial reaction is that we should

First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Shawn Drew
We have a request to provide the first day backups were run for a list of nodes. The registration date isn't good, as there is a several day lag from registration to first backup. These dates are older than the age of the event and activity log. Can anyone suggest a select statement for this?

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Dennis, Melburn IT7
There are two ways to find this information. The first option is the easiest. By default TSM retains the session summary of backups (scheduled and unscheduled) for 30 days. If you know that the backups for these nodes were within that period then you can query the 'summary' table to see the

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Fred Johanson
Why not use the gui to look up some unchanging system file, as in the OS? The creation date should show when first backed up. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis, Melburn IT7 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:05 AM To:

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Dennis, Melburn IT7
That method would be rather inefficient, as you would need to be very familiar with the filesystems in question to know what files have never changed since the original backup, and if not, you would basically be resorting to hunting and pecking to see if a particular file has the earliest backup

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Rhodes
I said . . . Let me see if I fully understand . . . . Bloomington TSM-a local clients backup to disk pool disk pool migrates to TSM-b/VV at Indianapolis == primary tape pool is on TSM-b/VV at Indianapolis vv server - contains primary pool from TSM-b Indianapolis TSM-b

Immortal sessions

2007-08-23 Thread Fred Johanson
Came in Monday after a week off and saw this on one of my machines: Sess Comm. Sess Wait Bytes Bytes Sess Platform Client Name Number Method StateTimeSent Recvd Type -- -- -- -- --- --- - -- 9,299 Tcp/Ip IdleW 302.6

Re: Immortal sessions

2007-08-23 Thread Dennis, Melburn IT7
This may be related to this: PK43462: AE IC50193 FIX COMPLETION - CLIENT SCHEDULER SESSIONS ARE NOT BEING TERMINATED AFTER BEING IDLE FOR A LONG TIME A specific fix for this item is not yet available electronically This record will be updated with a link to the fix if the APAR is new. For

TSM Netware 6.5 SP5 backup errors

2007-08-23 Thread Bill Schoen
I have a New server NetWare 6.5 SP5 I have installed into our tree. We are using Tivoli 5.3.4 to back up all of our servers. All of our other servers are NetWare 6.5 SP3 or sp4 and backup fine, but this new one and also a standalone that are NetWare 6.5 SP5 both get the following error when trying

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Andy Huebner
If it is Windows, you can look at the default .bmp files if you want to limit the search. So far, Microsoft has not had to patch the .bmp files. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis, Melburn IT7 Sent: Thursday,

Re: Immortal sessions

2007-08-23 Thread Gretchen L. Thiele
Yes, it came out in 5.3.something (at least here it did). It's now being addressed by APAR IC53464. Gretchen Thiele Princeton University -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Johanson Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:12 PM To:

Re: TSM Netware 6.5 SP5 backup errors

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Sims
Possibly as described in APAR IC48541.

Re: Immortal sessions

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Sims
While the Idletimeout is an issue, the primary pursuit needs to be why the client failed to send any backup data after being given the Active Files inventory at the onset of the Incremental (presuming it is an incremental backup). If nothing found in their scheduler or dsmerror log, a client

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Stef Coene
On Thursday 23 August 2007, Shawn Drew wrote: We have a request to provide the first day backups were run for a list of nodes. The registration date isn't good, as there is a several day lag from registration to first backup. These dates are older than the age of the event and activity log.

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Colwell, William F.
Hi Shawn, use this sql to find the oldest backup date - select min(backup_date) from backups where node_name = 'NODE' and filespace_name = '\\node\c$' It will return just one line of output. The filespace criteria is optional. I use it because we have nodes with old filespaces like

SV: Backup STG Problem?

2007-08-23 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Arnaud, Sorry... I haven't renamed that Device Class yet. LTOCLASS is still my Primary Pool. I haven't renamed it yet. Thanks Christian -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För PAC Brion Arnaud Skickat: den 23 augusti 2007 12:03 Till:

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:46:17 +1000, Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 23/08/2007, at 7:29 AM, Nicholas Cassimatis wrote: And a TSM DB Backup takes (at least) one volume, so with physical cartridges, that's a whole tape. With VV's, you're only using the actual capacity of the backup,

Occupancy vs. backups table file count

2007-08-23 Thread Kathleen M Hallahan
Ok, well, I'm not sure how I got this far not knowing that this happened or why, but I don't really run these kinds of numbers generally. Can someone explain to me why the number of file-type active files in a 'select from backups' query would exceed the number of files listed in a 'query

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:40:28 -0400, Keith Arbogast [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Knowing when they do and when they don't is the crux of my dilemma. The virtual volume methodology is presented in IBM designed training classes, Administrator's manuals, and in a very recent TSM Webcast as if it is

Re: Why virtual volumes?

2007-08-23 Thread Keith Arbogast
Richard Rhodes said Let me see if I understand... Rick, Yes, you understand very well. We will not have offsite copy pools until there are 3584's at both data centers. It is a huge concern for those who understand the implications. All the best, Keith

Re: Occupancy vs. backups table file count

2007-08-23 Thread Richard Sims
On Aug 23, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Kathleen M Hallahan wrote: Ok, well, I'm not sure how I got this far not knowing that this happened or why, but I don't really run these kinds of numbers generally. Can someone explain to me why the number of file-type active files in a 'select from backups' query

Re: First Backup day

2007-08-23 Thread Shawn Drew
I thought of something a little quicker and seems to be working... - separated nodes by windows/unix - on granted proxy access to my client for all the nodes - ran a loop to dsmc q backup /usr/bin/sh -asnode=$i assuming this would not have been modified since it was backed up initially. This

Re: Occupancy vs. backups table file count

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Bartl
Kathleen, I've never tried this, but 10% difference is quite a lot. I think of some possible reasons: - Does one of the tables count directories as files while the other skips them? - Does one table reflect an older state than the other (like aud lic updates the auditoccupancy)? - Does the