Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread Marouf, Nick
setup to span across 8 folders, with an XIV backend that can take a beating. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Sergio O. Fuentes Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread Sergio O. Fuentes
gt;W > >-Original Message- >From: Sergio O. Fuentes [mailto:sfuen...@umd.edu] >Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 10:39 AM >To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager >Cc: Prather, Wanda >Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" >continues to rise

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread Prather, Wanda
M-L] Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise? Sergio and Wanda, Thanks for your posts! I opened PMR 10702,L6Q,000 a couple weeks ago for slow performance [recently completely fell off the cliff!] with our SRV3 TSM v6.3.4.200 service that *was* successfully doing

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread Prather, Wanda
er Cc: Prather, Wanda Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise? Wanda, In trying to troubleshoot an unrelated performance PMR, IBM provided me with an e-fix for the dedupdel bottleneck that it sounds like you're experiencing. They ob

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread James R Owen
Sergio and Wanda, Thanks for your posts! I opened PMR 10702,L6Q,000 a couple weeks ago for slow performance [recently completely fell off the cliff!] with our SRV3 TSM v6.3.4.200 service that *was* successfully doing client+server deduplication for 72TB BackupDedup STGpool on NetApp FC [soon to

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread Sergio O. Fuentes
Wanda, In trying to troubleshoot an unrelated performance PMR, IBM provided me with an e-fix for the dedupdel bottleneck that it sounds like you're experiencing. They obviously will want to do their due-diligence on whether or not this efix will help solve your problems, but it has proved very us

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-20 Thread Marouf, Nick
Hi Wanda, I'm using Deduplication and have found that tsm life would be much easier if the stg pool was kept smaller under 3TB in size. I haven't done enough testing with this, and I know it is slightly counterproductive to achieve the highest deduplication savings. But it sure doe

Re: Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-19 Thread Erwann Simon
, queuing and deleting chunks. This activity does not appear "externally" and consumes most of the expire inventory time. Let's try with deduplication disabled (dedup=no) for that pool (?). Regards, Erwann "Prather, Wanda" a écrit : >TSM 6.3.4.00 on Win2K8 >Perhaps s

Deduplication "number of chunks waiting in queue" continues to rise?

2013-12-19 Thread Prather, Wanda
TSM 6.3.4.00 on Win2K8 Perhaps some of you that have dealt with the dedup "chunking" problem can enlighten me. TSM/VE backs up to a dedup file pool, about 4 TB of changed blocks per day I currently have more than 2 TB (yep, terabytes) of volumes in that file pool that will not reclaim. We were

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-26 Thread Paul Zarnowski
ation algorithm to compensate for ProtecTier deduplication. Perhaps an IBMer or Business Partner who is monitoring this list could chime in on this? At 06:21 AM 7/26/2013, Steven Langdale wrote: >Hello Stefan > >Have you got cases of this? I ask because I have been specifically t

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan Folkerts
(for example) customers an > > advantage with deduplication and factor in the dedup for billing. > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Colwell, William F. > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Norman, > > > > > > that is incorrect. IBM doesn'

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-26 Thread Nick Laflamme
license renewal negotiations, we were also undergoing a refresh of our storage for TSM. We heard the same thing Stefan heard: use-based pricing could be reduced by using TSM deduplication or using deduplication in ProtecTier, but there would be no reduction for deduplication effects in non-IBM

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-26 Thread Steven Langdale
ier (for example) customers an > advantage with deduplication and factor in the dedup for billing. > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Colwell, William F. > wrote: > > > Hi Norman, > > > > that is incorrect. IBM doesn't care what the hardware is when meas

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-26 Thread Stefan Folkerts
No, this is correct, IBM does give Protectier (for example) customers an advantage with deduplication and factor in the dedup for billing. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Colwell, William F. wrote: > Hi Norman, > > that is incorrect. IBM doesn't care what the hardware is

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-24 Thread Colwell, William F.
Bill Colwell Draper Lab -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Gee, Norman Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:29 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Deduplication/replication options This why IBM is pushing their VTL solution. IBM will

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-24 Thread Gee, Norman
, 2013 11:59 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Deduplication/replication options Hi Sergio! Another thing to take into consideration: if you have switched from PVU licensing to sub-capacity licensing in the past: TSM sub-capacity licensing is based on the amount of data stored in your primary

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-24 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 07/23/2013 06:30 PM, Nick Laflamme wrote: > I'm surprised by Allen's comments, given the context of the list. > > TSM doesn't support BOOST. It doesn't support at the server level, and it > doesn't support for a client writing directly to a DataDomain DDR. Duh, yes, good point. Context: We mo

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-24 Thread Loon, EJ van - SPLXM
@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Sergio O. Fuentes Sent: dinsdag 23 juli 2013 19:20 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Deduplication/replication options Hello all, We're currently faced with a decision go with a dedupe storage array or with TSM dedupe for our backup storage targets. There are some very cri

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Sergio O. Fuentes
e the idea of trying to squeeze out more disk space by compressing or deduplicating TSM deduplication extents. FYI, we had our business partner try this with compressing TSM deduplication extents on a V7000 array. According to them, IBM has tried this as well. The result is not sufficient to cove

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Nick Laflamme
I'm surprised by Allen's comments, given the context of the list. TSM doesn't support BOOST. It doesn't support at the server level, and it doesn't support for a client writing directly to a DataDomain DDR. This may be obvious to everyone, but I fear for the people who are TSM-centric and haven't

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Huebner, Andy
with serial number changes. Andy Huebner -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Sergio O. Fuentes Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication/replication options Hello all, We're

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Vandeventer, Harold [BS]
anager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Sergio O. Fuentes Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication/replication options Hello all, We're currently faced with a decision go with a dedupe storage array or with TSM dedupe for our

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Allen S. Rout
On 07/23/2013 01:19 PM, Sergio O. Fuentes wrote: > > We're currently faced with a decision go with a dedupe storage array > or with TSM dedupe for our backup storage targets. There are some > very critical pros and cons going with one or the other. For > example, TSM dedupe will reduce overall ne

Re: Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Arbogast, Warren K
Hi Sergio, There are many people more knowledgeable than I am on this topic, and I hope they contribute to this interesting question. My two cents would be to remember that the TSM database doesn't know about an array replication, so you'll have to deal with that issue if you have a massive reco

Deduplication/replication options

2013-07-23 Thread Sergio O. Fuentes
Hello all, We're currently faced with a decision go with a dedupe storage array or with TSM dedupe for our backup storage targets. There are some very critical pros and cons going with one or the other. For example, TSM dedupe will reduce overall network throughput both for backups and replic

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Alex Paschal
Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Alex Paschal Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:57 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates I second Wanda on the logs. When you think about it, logs are unique data,

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Prather, Wanda
Interesting idea -- Let us know what you find out! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:03 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates Thanks Wanda and

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Rick Adamson
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates I second Wanda on the logs. When you think about it, logs are unique data, being entirely made of transactions in the order in which they come in. If they were identical to some other data, I'd start looking around for T

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Hart, Charles A
, January 11, 2013 9:22 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates Yep. Oracle DB's, getting great dedup rates on the DB's (except the ones where they have turned on Oracle compression to start with - that is, the DB itself is compressed). Poor dedup on the O

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Alex Paschal
he DB itself is compressed). Poor dedup on the Oracle logs either way. W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:44 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Prather, Wanda
lto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 8:44 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates Though our TSM systems (6.3 and 5.5) use back-end de-dup, data domain, I also notice that log files for DB's such as Exchange pre 20

Re: Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread Rick Adamson
Behalf Of bkupmstr Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:15 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication candidates Thomas, First off, with all the great enhancehancements and current high stability levels I would recommend going straight to version 6.4 As you have already stated

Deduplication candidates

2013-01-11 Thread bkupmstr
Thomas, First off, with all the great enhancehancements and current high stability levels I would recommend going straight to version 6.4 As you have already stated there are certain data types hat are good candidates for data deduplication and your database backup data definitely is and image

Deduplication candidates

2013-01-09 Thread Thomas Denier
We are evaluating the potential usefulness of TSM deduplication on our Version 6 TSM servers. The servers run under zSeries Linux and are currently at the 6.2.2.0 level. We would not start using deduplication without upgrading to 6.2.4.0 or higher. Parts of our workload, such as database backups

Re: Re : Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-09-17 Thread Ray Carlson
Nothing new. I'm having various "Generate backupset" jobs fail. Sometime my expire will fail, and even some of my reclamations. IBM is attributing it all to the same missing data, and say that all my problem fall under IC85825. Supposedly, TSM 6.3.2.1 was supposed to fix this problem, and ke

Re : Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-09-17 Thread Tristan Kelkermans
Hi, We have the same issue here, anything new regarding this issue ? Regards Tristan

Re: Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-08-31 Thread Vandeventer, Harold [BS]
- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ray Carlson Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 11:16 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x Unfortunately, this is being handled through a third company, so I don&#

Re: Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-08-31 Thread Ken Naugle
214-634-2288 x122 | C 214-636-3775 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:57 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x Can you share

Re: Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-08-31 Thread Ray Carlson
essage- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ray > Carlson > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:05 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: [ADSM-L] Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x > > Is anyone else having the problem

Re: Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-08-31 Thread Prather, Wanda
Deduplication in 6.3.x Is anyone else having the problem of TSM saying that it is missing the source data for Deduplicated data? This is causing some of our "Generate Backupset" and some of our restore jobs to fail. Unfortunately, unless you run some job that actually attempts to use

Missing source data for Deduplication in 6.3.x

2012-08-29 Thread Ray Carlson
Is anyone else having the problem of TSM saying that it is missing the source data for Deduplicated data? This is causing some of our "Generate Backupset" and some of our restore jobs to fail. Unfortunately, unless you run some job that actually attempts to use or restore from the missing data

Re: DATA Corruption using Deduplication in TSM 6.3.1.1 WARNING

2012-06-01 Thread Ray Carlson
.3.1.1 because of other problems. Then the database was converted from a > 5.5 version. > It started with completely empty and new disk storage pools. Then data was > moved from tape back to the disks. Finally, Deduplication and Replication > were implemented. It had been running

Re: DATA Corruption using Deduplication in TSM 6.3.1.1 WARNING

2012-05-30 Thread Ray Carlson
, Deduplication and Replication were implemented. It had been running for several months before the problem arose. I don't know if it is old data or fresh data since I haven't been able to identify exactly which file is involved. Unfortunately I do not have the call reference number since

Re: DATA Corruption using Deduplication in TSM 6.3.1.1 WARNING

2012-05-30 Thread DeGroat, Steve
Same here, we are about to go "live" on a new 6.3.1 server expecting client and server side deduplication. Any additional information about the environment would be helpful. Steve DeGroat Storage Manager ITS Production Services Yale University 203.436.4540 "If you build it,

Re: DATA Corruption using Deduplication in TSM 6.3.1.1 WARNING

2012-05-30 Thread Steven Langdale
called it, "Orphaned deduplicate references". > > > > We are running TSM 6.3.1.1 on a Windows 2008 Server, and using the > Identify command to do deduplication on the Server, not the client. > > > > Interestingly, everything seemed to be mostly working. We had

Re: DATA Corruption using Deduplication in TSM 6.3.1.1 WARNING

2012-05-29 Thread Remco Post
erver, and using the Identify > command to do deduplication on the Server, not the client. > > Interestingly, everything seemed to be mostly working. We had a few volumes > that would not be reclaimed or moved because it said the deduplicated data > had not been backed up to

DATA Corruption using Deduplication in TSM 6.3.1.1 WARNING

2012-05-29 Thread Ray Carlson
Or as IBM called it, "Orphaned deduplicate references". We are running TSM 6.3.1.1 on a Windows 2008 Server, and using the Identify command to do deduplication on the Server, not the client. Interestingly, everything seemed to be mostly working. We had a few volumes that wo

Re: Deduplication with TSM.

2012-04-28 Thread Josh Davis
x27;s available. This handles a couple hundred clients, deduplication, etc. As for processors, one processor for every 2 DB directories, plus one processor for TSM internals is minimal. If you will have high I/O, then one hardware thread for every IDENTIFY DUPLICATES process is good. If you will use c

Deduplication with TSM.

2012-04-26 Thread Francisco Molero
Hi colleagues, I am going to implement a very big disk pool with dedup around 100 TB. TSM disk Storage pool ( neither VTLs nor DataDomain) . Somebody knows what TSM server I need  ( RAM and CPU) or what ratio can I hope... I am thinking about source Dedup... Any experiences? Thanks..

Re: External Disk Unit and TSM Deduplication

2011-11-16 Thread Paul Zarnowski
re available first. When we compared cost of cheap dumb storage to dedup appliance, it was a wash, unless you got high dd ratios. As we encrypt more data, those ratios become more and more in doubt. ..Paul On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:40 AM, "Ian Smith" wrote: > Alper, > >

Re: External Disk Unit and TSM Deduplication

2011-11-16 Thread Ian Smith
Alper, We have tested TSM server-side deduplication and, yes, it works, but at a cost. Specifically, in our opinion the sum of the additional resource requirements (CPU power and memory) and the time required for the identification and reclamation processes meant that we couldn't se

Re: External Disk Unit and TSM Deduplication

2011-11-15 Thread Alper DİLEKTAŞLI
Hi Neil, We don't need LAN free backup and we won't that. There is no problem about using file device class. We won't change TSM license model. We wonder about tsm deduplication is good and safe or not. We tested it in the test system but we havent got experience on the productio

Re: External Disk Unit and TSM Deduplication

2011-11-15 Thread Neil Schofield
Alper I've been giving a bit of thought to this myself recently, although it's more of an academic exercise since we're not in the market for a new library at the moment. Some things you may want to consider: Do you (now or in the future) have a requirement for LAN-free backup? I would expect th

External Disk Unit and TSM Deduplication

2011-11-14 Thread Alper DİLEKTAŞLI
were expensive. We have two option. We have to choice one of them. 1. We can buy a new LTO5 library for primary and offsite backups instead of LTO2 library. 2. We can buy a new simple external disk unit which has enough capacity. We can use TSM 6.2/3 deduplication for primary backups. We

Re: Deduplication question

2011-09-07 Thread Ian Smith
On 06/09/11 22:40, Richard van Denzel wrote: Hi All, Just a question aboutn the internal dedup of TSM. When I dedup a storage pool and then backup the pool to a dedup copy pool, will the data in the storage pool backup be transferred deduped or will it get undeduped first, then transferred and t

Re: Deduplication question

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Raibeck
+deduplication+best+practices+for+Tivoli+Storage+Manager+V6.2 Best regards, Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web

Deduplication question

2011-09-06 Thread Richard van Denzel
Hi All, Just a question aboutn the internal dedup of TSM. When I dedup a storage pool and then backup the pool to a dedup copy pool, will the data in the storage pool backup be transferred deduped or will it get undeduped first, then transferred and then dedupped again? Richard.

Questions according deduplication

2011-07-21 Thread Alexander Heindl
Hi, some questions according deduplication: 1.) when a client backups deduped to a small, but fast filepool (for daily amount), and the rest resides in the successor pool, is it deduped all over the machine, or just for that small pool? 2.) when migrating from one Filepool to the other (both

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-22 Thread David E Ehresman
ndom access disk" - e.g., devclass DISK. >FILE implies "serial access disk - e.g., devclass FILE. > >But I think there is still an open question about collocation and deduplication. Deduplication must be done using FILE stgpools, but FILE stgpools CAN use collocation. I don't kno

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-22 Thread Prather, Wanda
Zarnowski Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:01 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation This is my understanding as well. I'm almost certain this is the case, though we have not yet used source dedup. ..Paul On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:34 AM, "Grigori S

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-22 Thread Paul Zarnowski
11 9:37 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation > > Back to client side dedupe, which we're about to deploy for a branch > campus 90 miles away in Rockford IL. > > The data is sent from the clients in Rockford via tin cans and str

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-22 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Deschner Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:37 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation Back to client side dedupe, which we're about to deploy for a branch campus 90 miles away in Rockford IL. The data is sent from the clients in Rockford via tin can

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Roger Deschner
tape, then the files are >reconstructed from their pieces. > >You cannot dedup on DISK stgpools. >DISK implies "random access disk" - e.g., devclass DISK. >FILE implies "serial access disk - e.g., devclass FILE. > >But I think there is still an open question about col

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Mooney
Thank you Wanda! Much Appreciated! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:09 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Deduplication and Collocation https://www-304.ibm.com/support

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Paul Zarnowski
t;serial access disk - e.g., devclass FILE. But I think there is still an open question about collocation and deduplication. Deduplication must be done using FILE stgpools, but FILE stgpools CAN use collocation. I don't know what happens in this case. ..Paul At 02:38 PM 6/21/2011, Prather,

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Prather, Wanda
uesday, June 21, 2011 2:53 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation Cool, Thanks :) I have questions about client dedup. Do you know of any redbook detail on that? Thanks, Mooney "Prather, Wanda" wrote: Dedup only works in TSM storage pools that

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Mooney
2:17 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation Hello, I had a student ask me today "What happens if you have collocation turned on for a storage pool that you are deduplicating?" I did not know what to answer because in my mind I thought "well, if th

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Kelly J. Lipp
where I expect I'll be corrected: as long as the backup stg happens before the deduplication process on the file devtype storage pool the reduping won't have to happen. (we weren't really talking about collocated copy pools were we?) But then you wouldn't have a file devtype po

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Prather, Wanda
If it is a file device class with dedup turned off, yes. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Mooney Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:29 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation So data is

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Prather, Wanda
. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Mooney Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:17 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation Hello, I had a student ask me today "What happens if you have colloc

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Mooney
: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:22 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Deduplication and Collocation Tape pools are not de-duped, so that is not a consideration. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:17, Mark Mooney wrote: > Hello, > > I had a student ask me today "What happens if you have colloca

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Huebschman, George J.
DSM-L] Deduplication and Collocation Hello, I had a student ask me today "What happens if you have collocation turned on for a storage pool that you are deduplicating?" I did not know what to answer because in my mind I thought "well, if the data is collocated then I need to have a copy

Re: Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
Tape pools are not de-duped, so that is not a consideration. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:17, Mark Mooney wrote: > Hello, > > I had a student ask me today "What happens if you have collocation turned on > for a storage pool that you are deduplicating?"  I did not know what to > answer because in

Deduplication and Collocation

2011-06-21 Thread Mark Mooney
Hello, I had a student ask me today "What happens if you have collocation turned on for a storage pool that you are deduplicating?" I did not know what to answer because in my mind I thought "well, if the data is collocated then I need to have a copy of that data on that client's tape, otherwi

TSM deduplication & reclaimation

2011-04-13 Thread Wira Chinwong
Hi, I have a plan to implement TSM deduplication. I would like to know how TSM reclaim the object which already deduplicated. I found only recliamation process before the object is deduplicated in redbooks. Best Regards, Wira Chinwong SCSi Co., Ltd. 2521/69 Biztown Ladprao Rd

Re: Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
You're welcome. Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it! ;>) -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Neal Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:44 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication

Re: Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Jim Neal
Thanks Wanda! That worked perfectly! I owe you one! Jim -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question Check

Re: Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Prather, Wanda
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Deduplication Question Importance: High Hi All, I am testing Deduplication on a Red Hat 5 , 64 Bit, X86 Linux Server, using TSM Server version 6.2.2.2. I set up a storage pool for Deduplication and using a file devclass. When I try to back up a

Deduplication Question

2011-03-10 Thread Jim Neal
Hi All, I am testing Deduplication on a Red Hat 5 , 64 Bit, X86 Linux Server, using TSM Server version 6.2.2.2. I set up a storage pool for Deduplication and using a file devclass. When I try to back up a windows client to the storage pool, I am getting an error that says

Question about laptop backup with Tsm Client Deduplication side

2011-01-14 Thread Robert Ouzen
Hi to all I am curious to know if people use in Tsm server V6.2.2 the Deduplication in the Client side for the backup of laptop especially for abroad laptop backup. Any comments , tips and experience will be appreciate. Regards Robert Ouzen

Re: TSM 6.2 Deduplication Question

2010-05-28 Thread Dave Canan
: Fri, 28 May 2010 23:39:37 To: Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.2 Deduplication Question Might want to take a look at this webcast from yesterday: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/TE/techex_G856816E23 063W02.html Implementation and Use of TSM Client/Server Data Deduplication

Re: TSM 6.2 Deduplication Question

2010-05-28 Thread Bill Boyer
Might want to take a look at this webcast from yesterday: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/TE/techex_G856816E23 063W02.html Implementation and Use of TSM Client/Server Data Deduplication with TSM 6.2 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads

TSM 6.2 Deduplication Question

2010-05-28 Thread Shawn Drew
I'm reviewing the features of 6.2 and trying to decide if its worth the new-version-risk for one of our smaller branches. We are a 5.5 shop, so I'm a little behind on the details of the new features. The manual says that deduplication is available only on storage pools using a File de

Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
t; Processes For Identifying Duplicates: 0 >           Duplicate Data Not Stored: 24,972 G (56%) > > > Hope this helps, > > Bill Colwell > Draper Lab > > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > And

Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Colwell, William F.
l Draper Lab -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Carlson Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:13 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Deduplication Status Server side dedup, Server V6.2, client V6.2. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at

Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
Server side dedup, Server V6.2, client V6.2. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mark Yakushev wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Are you doing server- or client-side deduplication? What are the versions > of your TSM Client and Server? > > Regards, > Mark L. Yakushev > > >

Re: Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Yakushev
Hi Andy, Are you doing server- or client-side deduplication? What are the versions of your TSM Client and Server? Regards, Mark L. Yakushev From: Andrew Carlson To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 04/21/2010 12:36 PM Subject:[ADSM-L] Deduplication Status I have been looking through the

Deduplication Status

2010-04-21 Thread Andrew Carlson
I have been looking through the commands and outputs of commands, trying to find something to tell me how much deduplication has occurred. Is there one there I am missing? Thanks. -- Andy Carlson --- Gamecube:$150,PSO:$50

Re: SV: SV: Deduplication number of sessions -solution

2009-07-19 Thread Robert Ouzen Ouzen
du] On Behalf Of Christian Svensson Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:42 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: SV: Deduplication number of sessions Try this in your dsm.opt file I have just copy and paste from the help menu in dsmc (C:\>dsmc help) 3.102.1 Regulating backup and archive

Re: SV: SV: Deduplication number of sessions

2009-07-19 Thread Robert Ouzen Ouzen
Robert -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Christian Svensson Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:42 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: SV: Deduplication number of sessions Try this in your dsm.opt file I have just copy and paste fr

SV: SV: Deduplication number of sessions

2009-07-19 Thread Christian Svensson
son Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] för Robert Ouzen Ouzen [rou...@univ.haifa.ac.il] Skickat: den 19 juli 2009 13:27 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: Re: SV: Deduplication number of sessions Hi Christian The particular server I tried to backup is a Windows client with

Re: SV: Deduplication number of sessions

2009-07-19 Thread Robert Ouzen Ouzen
- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Christian Svensson Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: Deduplication number of sessions Hi, That is probably because you only have 2 or 3 partitions on your server you try

SV: Deduplication number of sessions

2009-07-19 Thread Christian Svensson
Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] för Robert Ouzen Ouzen [rou...@univ.haifa.ac.il] Skickat: den 19 juli 2009 12:40 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: Deduplication number of sessions Hi to all I am testing now Data Deduplcation wit Data Domain

Deduplication number of sessions

2009-07-19 Thread Robert Ouzen Ouzen
Hi to all I am testing now Data Deduplcation wit Data Domain , my TSM server version is 5.5.2.0 . In my pilot environment I have node with the maxnummp option of 20 and still the backup open only 3 sessions. The Device type of the device class is FILE with mountlimit of 20 Any ideas ?

Re: TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary pools

2009-04-29 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Please consider the environment before printing this Email -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Colin Dawson Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:48 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option

Re: TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary pools

2009-04-29 Thread Colin Dawson
Grigori, The primary decision for limiting deduplication to device classes of DEVTYPE=FILE has to do with the deduplication processing itself. Once a data chunk has been identified as being a duplicate of an existing data chunk, the TSM server leverages the reclamation and aggregate

Re: TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary pools

2009-04-29 Thread Nick Laflamme
Try a storage pool of the device class FILE, not DISK. It is FILE that is supported for deduplication, although I haven't had a chance to use deduplication yet, and my experience with FILE is fairly limited. On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Grigori Solonovitch wrote: Hello Everybody, I am te

TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary poo

2009-04-29 Thread Demetrio
Grigori, It's really strange. My version - Deduplication for disk pool are working default always and parameter DEDUPLICATE DATA can work with sequential access devices Dmitry Siberia Sofware SL http://www.s-iberia.com

Re: TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary pools

2009-04-29 Thread Allen S. Rout
>> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:37:16 +0300, Grigori Solonovitch >> said: > Hello Everybody, > I am testing TSM 6.1 under AIX. > I have tried to enable de-duplication for primary disk pool: > tsm: BKME>upd stg daily_1 dedup=y > ANR2344E UPDATE STGPOOL: The "DEDUPLICATE" option is not valid for device

Re: TSM 6.1 deduplication is invalid option for disk primary pools

2009-04-29 Thread Remco Post
Grigori, TSM can only dedup on devicetype FILE. As to why? Well, because new features are only implemented on devicetype FILE. That was a desicion made a few years back. Eventually, with TSM server version 7 or 8 or maybe when we're all long gone deviceclass DISK will be removed On 29 apr 20

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