On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:52:17 -0500
David E Ehresman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/StorageManagerforAIX5.1.html
does not work today to find the TSM Server 5.1 manuals. Where are we
suppose to find them today?
Wanda,
You wrote :-
If you want to save mainframe disk and tape, your best bet would be to move
to TSM on an AIX server (depending on the size of your clients, a WIn2K
server might do). You get the same great product, terrific performance (as
an ex-mainframer I can tell you the performance on AIX
That's what I also thought first.
But what he wants is to replace the files that have changed after the last
backup with the latest backed up version... :-)
Of course he could do a PIT restore but that would result in much more
database processing on the TSM server because the server would have
Does anyone know of a listing of how a dsmc inc backs up. Is it
touched files and modified or is there some kind of listing of how TSM
distinguishes when an incremental should back up a file in Linux. Our
Linux admins say it is backing up too much.
Thank You,
Bill Rosette
Data Center/IS/Papa
hi, in our practice application,i have a question for tivoli storage
manamger.the version of tsm software that we used is 5.1.0.0,in order to
protect tsm server database,we use the tsm administrator command backup db
BRtype=full devc=ltodevclass to perform database fu ll backup,the backup
database
where you used today=today-500 is saying you only want to delete entries
OLDER than 500 days ago... In other words, you are asking it to KEEP things
that are less than about 1.5 years, probably not what you want...
Use del volhist t=dbb tod=today-7 or some number smaller than 500...
I only keep
Hi,
remembering that just yesterday somebody asked about this (irl):
adsm q n muis f=d
Session established with server COOKE: AIX-RS/6000
Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 6.2
Server date/time: 02/21/03 17:29:00 Last access: 02/21/03 17:01:02
Node Name: MUIS
Hello,
I juste upgraded my TSM server on AIX 4.3.3 to 5.1.6.2 from 4.1.6 and I had
to reinstall the devices software at 4.1 level to have my Storagetek work.
The library functionned but the DLT1 drives where unable to read tapes. I
got the following message :
20.02.03 14:06:43 ANR8302E I/O
Good point Dave. I am moving my PREPARE to after my MOVE DRMEDIA that
ejects my database tape.
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From: David Bronder [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 8:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: Order of daily administrative events
Anyone else running 5162 and able to use the SHOW VERSION command?
I've never used the SHOW VERSION command before but on my 5.1.6.2
server, a SHOW VERSION nodename filespacename returns output like one
might expect from a show command.
David
Please don't leave out thanking Dwight Cook in the mix below.
Thanks Dwight!
Zlatko Krastev
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ET cc:
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According to the help for ANR0859E:
User Response: Examine the server messages issued prior to this message to
determine the source of the error. Issue the QUERY ACTLOG command to view
the activity log and search for messages. If the error cannot be isolated
and resolved, contact your service
From memory the dsm.sys that tdp looks for should be in the api/oracle/bin
directory and not the dsm.sys that the client software uses.
Good luck
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From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday 20 February 2003 22:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for testing this out for me David using your environment, I'll keep on looking
then.
The * doesn't seem to help any:
tsm: C2TSMSERVshow version c2n11aix *
ANR0852E SHOW: No matching file spaces found for node C2N11AIX.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 07:36AM
NO , you can't . Also we can't restore ORAClE DB using TSM which are
backedup by RMAN /TDP. RMAN restores it .
RMAN on 9i - Guide from Oracle press for more details ..
SD
Theresa Sarver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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02/20/2003 05:37 PM
Please
I've done this successfully, although I insist that the NW admins use their
NWcopy rather than TSM restores.
First thing I'd do is upgrade the NW6 client to 5.1.5.1 at least, I didn't like
the 5.1.1 client much.Then you might want to have the same on the 4.1 box.
I assume you've got the access
Thanks for the response, though the DBA's aren't going to like to hear that too much.
Thanks again;
Theresa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/03 07:50AM
NO , you can't . Also we can't restore ORAClE DB using TSM which are
backedup by RMAN /TDP. RMAN restores it .
RMAN on 9i - Guide from Oracle
I do 1TB+ backups nightly which run for about 8 hours. A large part of our
backup is a 500GB Oracle database backup to TSM. The database backups up
over a private 1Gb connection to a AIX P660-6h1 server with 2GB of RAM and 4
processors. The data then goes to nine 2disk stripe sets, over a 1Gb
Manuel,
The remote copypool ended up being NetWare 6, i can serve up a 8TB volume to TSM with
Novell Storage Services (NSS). NetWare's Common Internet FileSystem (CIFS) allows TSM
access without loading a NetWare client on the TSM server.
i chose this approach because copypools can only
Hi John,
I should have included more caveats in that message; I didn't mean to imply
that AIX performance is ALWAYS better than OS/390. You can certainly set up
configurations where either OS/390 performs better, or where AIX performs
better. And I am certainly not an AIX wizard, my background
Thanks. I've gotten lots of good responses to this question. TSM support
told me the order they suggest is something like:
Expire
Reclaim
Migrate
Backup Storage
Backup Database
Set Migrate back to high
Set Reclaim back to high
Move DRM
(This is with backups being run at night)
Most of the order
HI,
We have been running about 1 week with this version - no problems so far.
Jane
Jane Bamberger
IS Department
Bassett Healthcare
607-547-4784
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From: Muthyam Reddy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:28 AM
To:
Hi,
I usually get a call back within 1 hour - and then they follow up almost daily - I
have never been dropped from the radar!
Jane
Jane Bamberger
IS Department
Bassett Healthcare
607-547-4784
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From: Remeta, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL
well, i would backup storage before migrating it, will spare many tape
mounts !
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From: Tommy Templeton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday,21. February 2003 15:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events
Thanks. I've gotten lots of
Here there are DB servers with 3.8 TB oracle SAP instances on them and they
backup at a peak rate of 304-342 GB/hr.
How ?
Large client server (Sun E10K with 32 processors)
Gb ethernet
15 concurrent client sessions
client compression
goes to diskpool, not straight to tape...
Each session is able
Whether this helps or not, on testing the backups of Oracle databases to TSM
we found it far quicker to set a max filesize (1GB is what we use) on the
disk pool and let the big DB files got straight to tape. Your bottleneck is
then with the setup of your tape drives. We don't backup a given DB of
Hi,
tsm: COOKEq stg
Storage Device EstimatedPctPct High Low Next Stora-
Pool NameClass NameCapacity Util Migr Mig Mig ge Pool
(MB) Pct Pct
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Thats what I thought too. We are doing it that way now also. Thanks.
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From: Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-CSC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Order of daily administrative events
well, i would backup storage
I know the DBA's here are backing up restoring Oracle 8.1.6 databases
between servers using RMAN/TDPO. We are running TDP 2.2.0.1.
How they are doing it I have no idea It was setup/scripted by a
consultant from IBM Global Services.
--
Bruce Kamp
Midrange
We are on 5.1.6.1 and it been very stable No problem
David C. Pearson
IS Production Support Analyst
System Network Service
Snohomish County PUD # 1
ole0.bmp
Phone: 425.347.4420
Pager: 425.290.0944
FAX: 425.267.6380
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Theresa,
when I run the command I see info like this:
/adsmorc : // al_00ee894v_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT)
Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:40:32
ObjId: 0.134453795
/adsmorc : // al_01ee894v_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT)
Active, Inserted 01/31/03 02:40:32
ObjId: 0.134453794
/adsmorc : // al_03ee89nc_1_1 (MC: DEFAULT)
Zlatko --
I agree we're imposing on the good will of the IBM and Tivoli staff that
show their presence here, and also appreciate their help on the issues we
bring up. Thanks to all of you!
In answer to your side question --
I'm a retread mainframe sysprog, from back when a sev-1 system down
Hi Lisa;
Yes, I would say that the insert date jibes with reality ( - - I like that). I
don't know a whole lot about the RMAN side of things as our DBA's deal with that part
- I just know that we had some problems in the beginning where the DBA's weren't
running the RMAN delete script (or
Good afternoon all
I'm running TSM 4.2.2.12 on a Solaris 7 Machine and am in the never ending
search for ways to imrpove / check performance of our server as we are
getting some massive (and I mean huge) variations in backup and restore
times from machine to machine.
Our Solaris box is a 1CPU
And back to the original topic here -- would it kill someone
to add an MX record for [EMAIL PROTECTED] that points to the
new recipient?
Tom Kauffman
NIBCO, Inc
My stupid common sense came into play when I first saw the email float
through saying it was removed and I wondered the same thing.
We currently retain 180 Days of Version Exists, Deleted, Only and Extra Versions. Our
question is if we have been backing up node A for 600days should we not still have a
complete set of the first Full that is available to restore even though the file has
not changed from the first backup? (IE
I'm running TSM 4.2.2.12 on a Solaris 7 Machine and am in the never
ending search for ways to imrpove / check performance of our server as
we are getting some massive (and I mean huge) variations in backup and
restore times from machine to machine.
A frequently posted cause is the use of Ethernet
We will be going to Sungaurd soon restoring two TSM servers (one AIX one SUN) using
one 3494-library. Wouldn't I just modify the device.config to look at the same
library name for both servers? The issue I for see is that TSM Serve A has always
know about library A but Server B is use to
Richard --
I do a large Oracle/SAP database nightly, with this result:
BR077I Database file for backup: /oracle/PRD/sapbackup/cntrlPRD.dbf
BR061I 487 files found for backup, total size 746281.344 MB
BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 260.748 GB/h (74.168 MB/sec).
BKI1227I: Average
If the file was backed up and if the file have not changed.
The file will remain an active copy. The active copy does not
expire.
If you did a full backup 600+ days ago and the file have not
changed. When you restore the file, it will be the original
file when it was backed up 600+ days ago.
It
As long as the file exists on the client machine and you do not
subsequently delete it or excude it from backup, TSM will retain the
*latest* version forever, regardless of the VEREXISTS, VERDELETED,
RETONLY, or RETEXTRA settings. So if you back up file A, TSM will keep
that backup copy forever
Charles,
You will have to change the device configuration files on both of the
server planfiles to point to the single library. Once you have restored
the TSM DB's you will then need to delete the library and drive information
from the TSM servers and redefine them as the new library and
Hi Farren,
I'm not familiar with the vmstat command and Solaris but this is what I
have learned during the last years as a TSM consultant:
- Use as much and as fast CPUs as possible for the TSM server. As every
database-based application TSM is CPU-depending. I've seen very great
performance
Great! Thank You, for adding the additional step about re-defining, as I would have
thought just editing the device config would do it but what you state makes sense.
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From: Michael Swinhoe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL
Thank you for the response, that clears things up a bit. Guess I could / should have
just opened the book... ;-)
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From: Sias Dealy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Backup Retention Question
If the
Hello,
i tested a client backupresults by q backup command:
the result ist, the files are saved with the default managementclass, thats
all right.
But the directories all show a diffrent managmentclass, which this client
should never heard off. It is not in the dsm.opt/dsm.sys file. This
This was just the sort of discussion I was looking for. Thank you for the
replies. I inherited our current TSM system 4 years ago and feel that is
the best product on the market. I have never run into a problem
restoring/retrieving files for clients (that wasn't user related) in all
that time.
If you do not explicitly specify a management class for directories they
will go to the longest defined management class.
Take care,
Al
Alan Davenport
Senior Storage Administrator
Selective Insurance Co. of America
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(973) 948-1306
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If you don't specify a dirmc, tsm will associate the directory entries with
the LONGEST retention management class available in the domain under which
the node is registered...
Dwight
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From: Michael Kindermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003
Directories get bound to the mgmt class with the longest retention in that
policy domain. You can bind the directories to a specific mgmt class with
the DIRMC option. Be careful that it as at least the same retention
policies as the files on your server.
I am sure others on the list will give
Specifically, directories are bound to the management class whose backup
copygroup contains the highest RETONLY setting. In the event that more
than one management class qualifies, the management class whose name is
highest in collating sequence will be selected (note that we do not
document this,
Or for the Legato part have a look at my excel sheet to be found at
http://www.autovault.org/discus/index.html / Tivoli Storage Manager(tm)
Scripts /
Other / Compare TSM 5.1 with Legato 6.
Hope this helps
Kind regards
Thomas Rupp
Vorarlberger Illwerke AG
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von:
Backups
Creation of copypool volumes from disk
Creation of copypool volumes from primary tape
DB backup
Remove offsite tapes
Migration from disk to cartridge
Expiration
Reclamation
I like to clear my disk cache before backing up the DB, so that if I
restore that DB, I don't have a problem
Hi,
Currently, I have TSM 4.1.4 running on AIX 4.3.3 using a STK tape
library. Next month, I need to move TSM to another AIX server(Running
5L) and would like to upgrade TSM to 5.1.5 at the same time, using the
existing STK tape library. Can anyone give me some pointers the best
ways to
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-- 02-21-03 14:59 S.SHEPPARD (SHS)Re: Order of daily admini
I had the opportunity to have to restore a database a while back from a
backup created after disk pool backup and before migration. After
finishing, it
I have it running in a lab environment and I'm having big problems with the
Adaptec SCSI driver. I can get the server to behave for as long as a few days
but it always seems to hang up (both TSM and Linux) on the drivers. I've
tried many different things, including compiling everything with
On Saturday, Feb 22, 2003, at 04:55 Australia/Sydney, Shannon Bach
wrote:
snip
reliable server in the house. So I am wondering if you ever have
problems
with the AIX server crashing etc.?
snip
Just from my experience, yes, like and complex piece of software, AIX
can
crash. I've crashed too many
Tom,
we are currently backing up approx 4.5 TB nightly. This is with 16 X
9840A/B STK Fibre channel drives, 2 X 9310 Silos',
2.5 TB of ESS disk storage pools, and a 4 way 6H1 AIX TSM server with
4GB of
memory.
There are 2XGigE interfaces and 6X10/100 Ethernet cards into our server
farms.
We
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