Re: BackupPC running on BSD- Problems when writing to tape

2009-05-19 Thread W. Curtis Preston
I'll take the heat for this one.  I didn't notice that TOP had posted to the
wrong list.  Sorry about that.

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Im not sure what this has to do with TSM, you should maybe try a
backuppc maling list, but anyway...

You're gettings errors for door ipc files (type 9) and socket files (type
8).
Could they maybe be the cause for the ioctl error?

Exclude those files or maybe try TSM? :)

-km

On 18/05, ckandreou wrote:
 Can someone provide me a direction or how should I proceed forward. I  get
the following error message:

 Contents of file
/usr/local/BackupPC/backup_data/pc/tape_archive/ArchiveLOG.98.z, modified
2009-05-16 13:15:05 (Extracting only Errors)

 Executing: /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_archiveHost
/usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate /usr/bin/split  ccdev10 348
/usr/bin/bzip2 .bz2 000 /dev/sa0  *
 Xfer PIDs are now 81631
 Writing tar archive for host ccdev10, backup #348 to /dev/sa0
 Got unknown type 9 for ./etc/svc/volatile/repository_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./etc/sysevent/piclevent_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./etc/sysevent/sysevent_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./etc/sysevent/syseventconfd_event_channel/reg_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./etc/sysevent/devfsadm_event_channel/1
 Got unknown type 9 for ./etc/sysevent/devfsadm_event_channel/reg_door
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/mapping-emsadmcm
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/mapping-labadm
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/mapping-tuxadm
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-410c-0-47179a0e6e3ec
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-4118-0-471789141e575
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-411a-0-4717d9ce8b842
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-411c-0-4717a69c1cd75
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-4134-0-4717985238546
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-4138-0-4717b4d7c9a46
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-413a-0-4717b144d08af
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-413d-0-4717b144d9334
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-4141-0-4717ada15334a
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-4145-0-4717c89a28c3a
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-414a-0-4717832ec1c7f
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-414c-0-47179fbfd400a
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-414e-0-47179c0c44b35
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-4150-0-4717ac2fb4dba
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/tmp/orbit-labadm/linc-827-0-49b6a0fe2885a
 Got unknown type 8 for ./var/run/.inetd.uds
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/kcfd_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/name_service_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/picld_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/syslog_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/1
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/10
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/11
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/12
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/2
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/3
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/4
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/5
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/6
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/7
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/8
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/9
 Got unknown type 9 for
./var/run/sysevent_channels/syseventd_channel/reg_door
 Got unknown type 9 for ./var/run/rpc_door/rpc_100169.1

 bzip2: I/O or other error, bailing out.  Possible reason follows.
 bzip2: Inappropriate ioctl for device
   Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
 Executing: /bin/csh -cf -cf /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate -t
-h ccdev10 -n 348 -s \* . | /usr/bin/bzip2  /dev/sa0
 Error: /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate, compress or split
failed
 Archive failed: Error: /usr/local/BackupPC/bin/BackupPC_tarCreate,
compress or split failed

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Re: LAN-free requirements

2009-05-19 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
This is how storage agent 6.1 works which might be one of the differences of
this version:
the storage agent can support several clients while installed on only one
of the clients. You can also install the storage agent on a client system
that does not share storage resources with the Tivoli Storage
Managerserver, but that is connected to a client system that does
share storage
resources

Reference:
Storage Manager for SAN for AIX version 6.1(Storage Agent User’s Guide)
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6/topic/com.ibm.itsm.sta.doc/b_stg_agent_guide_aix.pdf

Regards,
Mehdi Salehi


Re: LAN-free requirements

2009-05-19 Thread Steven Langdale
Hello

No, it's not different in 6.1, earlier versions work the same.  What you 
need to remember though is that you normally install a LAN-Free agent to 
get the data OFF the ethernet network.  If you're backing up a host with a 
storage agent on another host the data goes over ethernet to get to it.

Thanks

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Hi,
This is how storage agent 6.1 works which might be one of the differences 
of
this version:
the storage agent can support several clients while installed on only one
of the clients. You can also install the storage agent on a client system
that does not share storage resources with the Tivoli Storage
Managerserver, but that is connected to a client system that does
share storage
resources

Reference:
Storage Manager for SAN for AIX version 6.1(Storage Agent User?s Guide)
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6/topic/com.ibm.itsm.sta.doc/b_stg_agent_guide_aix.pdf


Regards,
Mehdi Salehi


Re: LAN-free requirements

2009-05-19 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Good point, thanks.
I conclude that for a multi-platform environment, TSM for SAN is required
for all systems that need LAN-free data movement.
Another vague issue for me is the shared resource. Evidently, tape libraries
could be shared SAN resources. How about disk-based ones? What I have found
is that disk-based resources could be shared using some products such as
GPFS (for AIX and linux), Tivoli SANergy or IBM Totalstorage SAN Filsysetem.
How TSM server defines storage pools on a shared disk or filesystem?

Thanks.


Re: backup DB2 for z/OS on TSM for AIX?

2009-05-19 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Thanks Francisco,
Can TSM server for z/OS backup open system's data? If yes, does it support
TDP for Oracle (oracle is on Unix), TDP for MS SQL and LAN-free data
movement?

Regards,
Mehdi Salehi


SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Gennadiy Khramov
Hi,
I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install SANergy
MDC on CentOS.
First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM documentation i
found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3 type.
But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel version
2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
Only the client will be installed.

what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru


big striped TSM volume performance

2009-05-19 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
Which one performs better in TSM for AIX:
1- using one big TSM volume on a big striped filesystem
2- using multiple smaller TSM volumes each on a separate filesystem (each
filesystem resides on a separate hdisk)
(in either case, disks are RAID protected in disk subsystem layer)

I assumed that TSM does not lock a volume while a client is sending backup
data to it such that other clients can read/write from/to this volume
simultaneously. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

Thanks so much,
Mehdi Salehi



Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Remco Post

Hi,

I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:


Hi,
I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
SANergy
MDC on CentOS.
First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
documentation i
found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
type.
But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
version
2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
Only the client will be installed.

what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru


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Re: big striped TSM volume performance

2009-05-19 Thread David McClelland
Take a look at this link to a presentation given by one of the TSM
Developers at the Oxford Symposium a couple of years back which will answer
one or two of your questions and give some IBM recommendations for best
performance on different disk subsystems and layouts 
http://tinyurl.com/qv35v8

Part of the answer below may also depend upon what you mean by 'big TSM
volume' - a random access DISK volume, or a sequential access FILE volume?

HTH,

/David Mc
London



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Subject: [ADSM-L] big striped TSM volume performance

Hi,
Which one performs better in TSM for AIX:
1- using one big TSM volume on a big striped filesystem
2- using multiple smaller TSM volumes each on a separate filesystem (each
filesystem resides on a separate hdisk)
(in either case, disks are RAID protected in disk subsystem layer)

I assumed that TSM does not lock a volume while a client is sending backup
data to it such that other clients can read/write from/to this volume
simultaneously. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

Thanks so much,
Mehdi Salehi


Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Gennadiy Khramov
Hi,
I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :)
But it's more complex.
I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape). First
level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must migrate
to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes.
All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow will be
transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg pool.


How i see that solution.
HSM decides transparent data migration task.
TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer data to
disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards).
And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes (if
need send it from client) and back.
But i don't know - will this work? :)

In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems. As i
know SANergy may works well on AIX. :)
But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing
demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with change of
platform :).

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru



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Hi,

I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:

 Hi,
 I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
 SANergy
 MDC on CentOS.
 First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
 documentation i
 found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
 type.
 But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
 So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
 version
 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
 The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
 Only the client will be installed.

 what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
 may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?
 
 Best Regards,
 Khramov Gennadiy
 gkhra...@computel.ru

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Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Remco Post

You are aware that with TSM version 6.1 Lan-free is also formally
supported on GPFS? There was no code-change, just a formal support
statement, so you can get this to work with 5.5 as well

As for HSM, I'd think that either requiests are so small that you
don't mind using TCP/IP or so large that you don't mind writing
directly to tape.

On 19 mei 2009, at 12:59, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:


Hi,
I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :)
But it's more complex.
I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape).
First
level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must
migrate
to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes.
All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow
will be
transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg
pool.


How i see that solution.
HSM decides transparent data migration task.
TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer
data to
disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards).
And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes
(if
need send it from client) and back.
But i don't know - will this work? :)

In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems.
As i
know SANergy may works well on AIX. :)
But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing
demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with
change of
platform :).

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru



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Hi,

I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:


Hi,
I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
SANergy
MDC on CentOS.
First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
documentation i
found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
type.
But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
version
2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
Only the client will be installed.

what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru


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Re: SANergy MDC on Linux (CentOS)

2009-05-19 Thread Gennadiy Khramov
Yes i found that tsm lan-free 5.5 woks with gpfs. But in real model gpfs
wouldn't be used, that's why i looking for another ways.

Well, files not so small for transfering over TCP/IP, but consumer needs
fast access for recently migrated data. So he determined such conditions
and set task and I solve it.
Though decision of this problem interesting per se.
I've tested that SANergy works with TSM BA Client well (who would doubt :)
), but my chief dosen't sure that HSM will works also fine.
Do I correctly understand, that HSM uses TSM BA Client functions for
transfer migration data (all options for hsm declaring in clients
dsm.sys)?

Best Regards,
Khramov Gennadiy
gkhra...@computel.ru



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You are aware that with TSM version 6.1 Lan-free is also formally
supported on GPFS? There was no code-change, just a formal support
statement, so you can get this to work with 5.5 as well

As for HSM, I'd think that either requiests are so small that you
don't mind using TCP/IP or so large that you don't mind writing
directly to tape.

On 19 mei 2009, at 12:59, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:

 Hi,
 I read about gpfs possibilities and would be happy use only it :)
 But it's more complex.
 I need make three-level storage system (fc disks-fata disks-tape).
 First
 level (fc-disk pool) contains user's data. Obsolescent data must
 migrate
 to second level (fata-disk pool), and then (if needed) to tapes.
 All data must be transmitted over SAN. For all systems data-flow
 will be
 transparent, and by user request data must return to first level stg
 pool.


 How i see that solution.
 HSM decides transparent data migration task.
 TSM fo SAN can write only to libraries, so SANergy helps transfer
 data to
 disks (from fc-disks to fata disks and backwards).
 And at end TSM for SAN is responsible for transmitting data to tapes
 (if
 need send it from client) and back.
 But i don't know - will this work? :)

 In fact, intend using AIX (HACMP) for TSM server and Client systems.
 As i
 know SANergy may works well on AIX. :)
 But now, I have only linux and windows systems on ESX preparing
 demo-solution, and also all issues and problems connected with
 change of
 platform :).
 
 Best Regards,
 Khramov Gennadiy
 gkhra...@computel.ru



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 Hi,

 I think you'll learn that GPFS provides everything SANergy does, plus
 reliability and some more neat features. I don't think you'll actually
 need the SANergy MDC to do what you want to do. I have a very strong
 opinion on SANergy, and that is that you don't want to use it, not
 even if your life depended on it (and if your life does depend on
 sanergy, boy, you're in trouble ;-)).

 Anyway, we might be better able to help you if you'd tell us what your
 final goal (in terms of functionality) is.

 On 19 mei 2009, at 11:01, Gennadiy Khramov wrote:

 Hi,
 I try configure HSM and SANergy on linux. And i couldn't install
 SANergy
 MDC on CentOS.
 First i tried install all on CentOS 4 (2.6.9-78). In IBM
 documentation i
 found than MDC works with linux kernel 2.6 only if filesystem EXT3
 type.
 But HSM needs gpfs filesystem =(.
 So I decided install another linux system CentOS 3 (it has kernel
 version
 2.4.21-50.EL) and there install MDC. But installation writes that :
 The SANergy MDC will not be installed.  This kernel is not supported.
 Only the client will be installed.

 what may it need else? or what is my mistake?
 may be there are more simple ways to make HSM with SANergy?
 
 Best Regards,
 Khramov Gennadiy
 gkhra...@computel.ru

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Re: big striped TSM volume performance

2009-05-19 Thread Skylar Thompson
Mehdi Salehi wrote:
 Hi,
 Which one performs better in TSM for AIX:
 1- using one big TSM volume on a big striped filesystem
 2- using multiple smaller TSM volumes each on a separate filesystem (each
 filesystem resides on a separate hdisk)
 (in either case, disks are RAID protected in disk subsystem layer)

 I assumed that TSM does not lock a volume while a client is sending backup
 data to it such that other clients can read/write from/to this volume
 simultaneously. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

My experience on Linux is that having multiple, separate RAID groups is
better than having one giant RAID group. You get better reliability
since you have more failure groups, and better performance since you
spread your disk contention out more.

I can't find the source to back it up, but I think even for
random-access DISK volumes only one client can be doing I/O at a time to
any given volume. This means that creating multiple DISK volumes per
RAID group will give better performance.

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Re: big striped TSM volume performance

2009-05-19 Thread Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
We use 3 RAID-5 groups with 24 random disk volumes each and they are faster 
than the Ethernet (2x1gb) during the backups and are fast enough during 
migration to meet our needs.  Since we are not migrating to physical tape I 
have not tracked the performance, only if it was done in time.
You can have multiple clients backup to a random disk volume.  At our peak 
backup time we have over 100 clients running.

Andy Huebner

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] big striped TSM volume performance

Mehdi Salehi wrote:
 Hi,
 Which one performs better in TSM for AIX:
 1- using one big TSM volume on a big striped filesystem
 2- using multiple smaller TSM volumes each on a separate filesystem (each
 filesystem resides on a separate hdisk)
 (in either case, disks are RAID protected in disk subsystem layer)

 I assumed that TSM does not lock a volume while a client is sending backup
 data to it such that other clients can read/write from/to this volume
 simultaneously. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.

My experience on Linux is that having multiple, separate RAID groups is
better than having one giant RAID group. You get better reliability
since you have more failure groups, and better performance since you
spread your disk contention out more.

I can't find the source to back it up, but I think even for
random-access DISK volumes only one client can be doing I/O at a time to
any given volume. This means that creating multiple DISK volumes per
RAID group will give better performance.

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backing up a Windows 2003 Client running DB2

2009-05-19 Thread Timothy Hughes

Hi all,

We have a request to backup a Windows 2003 server that has a open DB2
running on it, I have never backed a server up with  DB2.  Anyone with
experience doing this? Any RECENT documents or Manuals that can help?


Thanks for any help or suggestions in advance!


Re: backing up a Windows 2003 Client running DB2

2009-05-19 Thread Strand, Neil B.
Tim,
See:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9r5/index.jsp

Look under Database administration for Data recovery

DB2 uses the TSM API.  Just remember that everytime you change the TSM
configuration files you need to restart DB2 in order to read in the new
configuration.



Neil Strand
Storage Engineer - Legg Mason
Baltimore, MD.
(410) 580-7491
Whatever you can do or believe you can, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power and magic.


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Subject: [ADSM-L] backing up a Windows 2003 Client running DB2

Hi all,

We have a request to backup a Windows 2003 server that has a open DB2
running on it, I have never backed a server up with  DB2.  Anyone with
experience doing this? Any RECENT documents or Manuals that can help?


Thanks for any help or suggestions in advance!

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Re: backup DB2 for z/OS on TSM for AIX?

2009-05-19 Thread Gee, Norman
Yes it does, TSM on z/OS will backup all of these.  I am not sure about
LAN-free data movement.  z/OS will only support ESCON or FICON attach
tape drives and not Fibre channel tape drives.  3590 and
3592/TS1120/TS1130 requires tape controllers. LTO of any flavor are not
supported by z/OS.

TSM on z/OS version 6.1 is not available, the highest level is 5.5.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:32 AM
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Subject: Re: backup DB2 for z/OS on TSM for AIX?

Thanks Francisco,
Can TSM server for z/OS backup open system's data? If yes, does it
support
TDP for Oracle (oracle is on Unix), TDP for MS SQL and LAN-free data
movement?

Regards,
Mehdi Salehi


Re: backing up a Windows 2003 Client running DB2

2009-05-19 Thread Timothy Hughes

Thanks Neil!  we will take a look at this

regards
Tim

Strand, Neil B. wrote:


Tim,
See:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9r5/index.jsp

Look under Database administration for Data recovery

DB2 uses the TSM API.  Just remember that everytime you change the TSM
configuration files you need to restart DB2 in order to read in the new
configuration.



Neil Strand
Storage Engineer - Legg Mason
Baltimore, MD.
(410) 580-7491
Whatever you can do or believe you can, begin it.
Boldness has genius, power and magic.


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Subject: [ADSM-L] backing up a Windows 2003 Client running DB2

Hi all,

We have a request to backup a Windows 2003 server that has a open DB2
running on it, I have never backed a server up with  DB2.  Anyone with
experience doing this? Any RECENT documents or Manuals that can help?


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Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

2009-05-19 Thread Eric Thompson
I've got a node within TSM that we want to be able to export out of TSM
completely.

 

Can you extract all the data (active and inactive versions) for a node
and cut it to CD, or other media and have it be readable outside of TSM?

 

The customer wants to be able to keep the data for a period of time, and
wants to be able to access it outside the TSM environment.

 

Is this possible, if so what would our options be?

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Eric

 

 


SV: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

2009-05-19 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Eric,
What you can do is create a File Device Class and run export node with 
filedata=all to that Device Class.
Now can you burn out the Device Class Files. I have a Customer Doc that I did 
write for CBMR how to export BMR data to Cristie Software Support.

Now can you archive that CDs and import it to any TSM Server in the future.

I can send that document to you outside from adsm.org. Just drop me an email.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] f#246;r Eric Thompson 
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Skickat: den 19 maj 2009 19:55
Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

I've got a node within TSM that we want to be able to export out of TSM
completely.



Can you extract all the data (active and inactive versions) for a node
and cut it to CD, or other media and have it be readable outside of TSM?



The customer wants to be able to keep the data for a period of time, and
wants to be able to access it outside the TSM environment.



Is this possible, if so what would our options be?



Thanks for your help.



Eric


Re: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

2009-05-19 Thread Wanda Prather
An EXPORT  is only suitable for importing to another TSM server.

Look at BACKUPSETs; a backupset, if written to CD/DVD, can be read by the
TSM client, without a TSM server.


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Eric Thompson ethomp...@itlifeline.netwrote:

 I've got a node within TSM that we want to be able to export out of TSM
 completely.



 Can you extract all the data (active and inactive versions) for a node
 and cut it to CD, or other media and have it be readable outside of TSM?



 The customer wants to be able to keep the data for a period of time, and
 wants to be able to access it outside the TSM environment.



 Is this possible, if so what would our options be?



 Thanks for your help.



 Eric







Re: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

2009-05-19 Thread Eric Thompson
I looked at backupsets, however it looks like you can only create a backupset 
of active data?
The customer would like to have access to all data (active and inactive 
versions) outside of the TSM server.

Is this possible via a backupset?

Thanks again.



Eric Thompson
Senior Storage Engineer
Work: (509) 984-1608, Cell: (509) 714-1772
  www.it-lifeline.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Wanda 
Prather
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:05 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

An EXPORT  is only suitable for importing to another TSM server.

Look at BACKUPSETs; a backupset, if written to CD/DVD, can be read by the
TSM client, without a TSM server.


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Eric Thompson ethomp...@itlifeline.netwrote:

 I've got a node within TSM that we want to be able to export out of TSM
 completely.



 Can you extract all the data (active and inactive versions) for a node
 and cut it to CD, or other media and have it be readable outside of TSM?



 The customer wants to be able to keep the data for a period of time, and
 wants to be able to access it outside the TSM environment.



 Is this possible, if so what would our options be?



 Thanks for your help.



 Eric







SV: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

2009-05-19 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Eric,
That is correct. With Backupset can you only collect data from a point in time 
and the active data from that time.
Export/import can you collect ALL data.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] f#246;r Eric Thompson 
[ethomp...@itlifeline.net]
Skickat: den 19 maj 2009 20:17
Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: Re: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

I looked at backupsets, however it looks like you can only create a backupset 
of active data?
The customer would like to have access to all data (active and inactive 
versions) outside of the TSM server.

Is this possible via a backupset?

Thanks again.



Eric Thompson
Senior Storage Engineer
Work: (509) 984-1608, Cell: (509) 714-1772
  www.it-lifeline.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Wanda 
Prather
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:05 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

An EXPORT  is only suitable for importing to another TSM server.

Look at BACKUPSETs; a backupset, if written to CD/DVD, can be read by the
TSM client, without a TSM server.


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Eric Thompson ethomp...@itlifeline.netwrote:

 I've got a node within TSM that we want to be able to export out of TSM
 completely.



 Can you extract all the data (active and inactive versions) for a node
 and cut it to CD, or other media and have it be readable outside of TSM?



 The customer wants to be able to keep the data for a period of time, and
 wants to be able to access it outside the TSM environment.



 Is this possible, if so what would our options be?



 Thanks for your help.



 Eric







Re: SV: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

2009-05-19 Thread David McClelland
But, as Wander points out, with any EXPORT NODE operation you'll need as a
minimum a TSM Server, a TSM Client and an IMPORT NODE operation to read any
of that node's data back again. For me, that doesn't qualify as 'have it be
readable outside of TSM' as stated in Eric's original requirement. 

However, I can't think of another mechanism that meets the active plus
inactive out of TSM requirement here. Looks like there might have to be a
compromise somewhere: either active only with a backupset, or all versions
but with some preparation/TSM software in the event of a recovery being
required.

Any other ideas anyone?

/David Mc
London

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Christian Svensson
Sent: 19 May 2009 20:10
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

Hi Eric,
That is correct. With Backupset can you only collect data from a point in
time and the active data from that time.
Export/import can you collect ALL data.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] f#246;r Eric Thompson
[ethomp...@itlifeline.net]
Skickat: den 19 maj 2009 20:17
Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: Re: Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

I looked at backupsets, however it looks like you can only create a
backupset of active data?
The customer would like to have access to all data (active and inactive
versions) outside of the TSM server.

Is this possible via a backupset?

Thanks again.



Eric Thompson
Senior Storage Engineer
Work: (509) 984-1608, Cell: (509) 714-1772
  www.it-lifeline.com

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Wanda Prather
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:05 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Can you export a nodes data out of TSM completely?

An EXPORT  is only suitable for importing to another TSM server.

Look at BACKUPSETs; a backupset, if written to CD/DVD, can be read by the
TSM client, without a TSM server.


On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Eric Thompson
ethomp...@itlifeline.netwrote:

 I've got a node within TSM that we want to be able to export out of TSM
 completely.



 Can you extract all the data (active and inactive versions) for a node
 and cut it to CD, or other media and have it be readable outside of TSM?



 The customer wants to be able to keep the data for a period of time, and
 wants to be able to access it outside the TSM environment.



 Is this possible, if so what would our options be?



 Thanks for your help.



 Eric







TSM 5.[345] in OES/NSS cluster environment

2009-05-19 Thread Michael Green
OES2 (SLES 10) with Novell cluster services with NSS volumes.
Anyone has experience backing up such  setup with TSM?
--
Warm regards,
Michael Green


TSM Win32 6.1 GUI opens blank window

2009-05-19 Thread Wanda Prather
Well -
I installed the TSM 6.1 client for Windows32  on my test machine, which is
WinXP SP3 with a test TSM 5.5 server on it.
Uninstalled the 5.5.2 client, ran setup.exe for TSM 6.1.

dsmc.exe works as expected
dsmmfc.exe works as expected
web client works, from a browser started on the same machine
But the Java GUI dsm.exe opens an empty window with the title IBM Tivoli
Storage Manager, and nothing else.

So I assume it's a Java issue - but I can run the web client, from a browser
started on the same machine, and get the java icon in the system tray, so
some Java is working on this machine.

No error messages.  No messages of any kind.

The TSM support page doesn't list the java requirements for the client, nor
is there any info in the WIndows client manual for 6.1 or the client README
about Java requirements.

Suggestions?

Wanda (who has never understood why anyone thinks Java is a good thing,
there's always issues)


Re: TSM Win32 6.1 GUI opens blank window

2009-05-19 Thread Richard Sims

Hi, Wanda -

Technote 1320792 recommends Java 1.5.
Assure a writable dsmerror.log (test by throwing a bogus option into
dsm.opt, and performa client action). Beyond that, maybe try a client
trace.

Richard Sims  (another person who has found Java to be further
computerdom idolatry)


NDMP expiration weirdness

2009-05-19 Thread Gee, Norman
 
I have notice that whenever I run expiration on a server with NDMP
backups on it, that the NDMP data does not get deleted the first pass
thru.  If I start expiration again immediately after the first
expiration finish, it will expire my NDMP backups.

Any one else experiencing the same weirdness or is it just me?


TSM Server 5.5, AIX and xlC version

2009-05-19 Thread David Longo
I currently have TSM server 5.4.3.0 on AIX 5.3 TL8-2.
 
Will be upgrading server to 5.5.2.0 in a few weeks.
5.5 includes, for AIX platform, xlC 8.0.  My AIX already
is at xlC 9.0.
 
Install doc just says what's on CD.  Can this run with xlC
9.0 or do I have to downgrade?
 
I have a few AIX Clients with 5.5.0 and xlC 9.0 and no problem,
but server is different.
 
Thanks,
David Longo


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Re: TSM Server 5.5, AIX and xlC version

2009-05-19 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
Dave, 
I have this version on a server I was testing 6.1 which I restored to 5.5.2 and 
have not seen any issues.

Geoff

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Subject: TSM Server 5.5, AIX and xlC version

I currently have TSM server 5.4.3.0 on AIX 5.3 TL8-2.
 
Will be upgrading server to 5.5.2.0 in a few weeks.
5.5 includes, for AIX platform, xlC 8.0.  My AIX already
is at xlC 9.0.
 
Install doc just says what's on CD.  Can this run with xlC
9.0 or do I have to downgrade?
 
I have a few AIX Clients with 5.5.0 and xlC 9.0 and no problem,
but server is different.
 
Thanks,
David Longo


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Re: TSM Win32 6.1 GUI opens blank window

2009-05-19 Thread Wanda Prather
Hi Richard,

Thanks much.  I saw that client limitations technote that recommended
upgrading to Java 1.5, but that was to resolve a problem with the web
client, and my web client is working fine.  It's the GUI client (which hath
become Java in 6.1) that is broken.

I'm even more confused now - I dug around, and in the program files/baclient
directory, there is now an IBM JRE50 directory for Java 2, Version 5, and
add/remove programs agrees that has been installed, so the GUI should have
whatever it needs for its Java runtime environment - I think it installed
the JRE as part of the client install.

Frankly, I was expecting Java problems with this new client.  I even brought
it up in one of the Business Partner calls - but I was really really hoping
I was wrong


Thanks
Wanda
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Richard Sims r...@bu.edu wrote:

 Hi, Wanda -

 Technote 1320792 recommends Java 1.5.
 Assure a writable dsmerror.log (test by throwing a bogus option into
 dsm.opt, and performa client action). Beyond that, maybe try a client
 trace.

Richard Sims  (another person who has found Java to be further
 computerdom idolatry)



How to read TSM content without TSM??

2009-05-19 Thread Norita binti Hassan
Hi,

 

I need to read a TSM tape/backup, but I want to read it without TSM.

Can it be done?

If it's possible,then how to do it..

(I don't want ot use q contents to view the contents )

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 



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Re: TSM Server 5.5, AIX and xlC version

2009-05-19 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
Hello David,
I am running TSM 5.5.1.1 with xlC 9.0 without any problems.
In addition, I have upgraded to xlC 9.0.08, which is required for TSM 6.1, and 
found 5.5.1 working fine.

Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

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Longo
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:50 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM Server 5.5, AIX and xlC version

I currently have TSM server 5.4.3.0 on AIX 5.3 TL8-2.

Will be upgrading server to 5.5.2.0 in a few weeks.
5.5 includes, for AIX platform, xlC 8.0.  My AIX already
is at xlC 9.0.

Install doc just says what's on CD.  Can this run with xlC
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I have a few AIX Clients with 5.5.0 and xlC 9.0 and no problem,
but server is different.

Thanks,
David Longo


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