aix/3590/san - High Availability Failover + load balancing

2003-03-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
From IBM's 3590 web site: The new AIX(R) high-availability failover mechanism in the AIX tape device driver enables multiple redundant paths in a Storage Area Network (SAN) to 3590 Model E and Model H Tape Drives having Fibre Channel attachment. and The AIX tape device driver also offers

Re: Backup of 300 GB Data within 12 Hours

2002-08-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 26 Aug 2002 at 9:00, Kauffman, Tom wrote: I do a 650+ GB SAP/R3 database in 2 hours 40 minutes. TSM and SAP on RS/6000 systems (660-6M1 now, was S7A two weeks ago). All disk is IBM ESS and the backups run over two dedicated Gigabit ethernet networks to four IBM LTO tape drives. No

Re: Compare TSM/Legato and Veritas

2002-08-02 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 2 Aug 2002 at 4:16, Rafael Mendez wrote: Hi, In my opinion (I have used Legato and TSM not Veritas) each storage product has its advantages and disadvantages. I have also used both . . . Legato is easy to install and configure Very easy! The first time I downloaded the demo to try it

Re: AIX Oracle Snapshots

2002-07-16 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 15 Jul 2002 at 21:50, Seay, Paul wrote: From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AIX Oracle Snapshots From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Markus Veit has anyone tried to

Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ

2002-04-18 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Legato will pack fulls and incrementals into the same tapes, or, separate tapes, depending upon how you set up storage pools. I'd say the waste of tape comes from having to perform periodic full/differential backups, depending upon your schedule. If you mix multiple retention periods on the

TSM 5.1

2002-03-12 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We had a meeting with IBM last week where they described some of the new features of 5.1 - coming within a few weeks. 1) multi session restore 2) simultaneous writes to copy pools (more than one) 3) a move nodedata command 4) lan-free backup/restore (I thought it already had this) 5) hpux

Veritas and IBM

2002-02-12 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
IBM and Veritas are getting quite close lately. They are jointly working on a project to port Veritas sftw to AIX. This includes Veritas's filesystem, volume manager, special DB filesystem, clustering sftw, etc. My understanding is that IBM has been pushing this, and that a joint team of some

Re: low bandwitdth and big files

2002-01-31 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 30 Jan 2002 at 16:07, Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) wrote: With regard to compressing data twice, I disagree. There's something very wrong with it. That's why it is strongly recommended not to do it. (not just with TSM, but with all data) Some data that goes thru multiple compression routines

Re: How reliable are your 3590 K media

2002-01-10 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We have several thousand 3590K tapes. In general we are very happy with them. Like you, we have experienced some problem with a few new tapes, but no where near your 10% rate - more like less than 1%. Once past the initial use, they are rock solid. We just received another shippment of tapes.

Re: FW: Urgent: Cost of TDP for SAP R/3

2002-01-09 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Thanks for all the HELP! Ya'll are wonderfull . . . . . Rick

Urgent: Cost of TDP for SAP R/3

2002-01-08 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
I need a quick/rough idea of the cost of TDP for SAP R/3. This is a rush request from my bos for a possible SAP test system. I don't know how it's priced, but the Oracle db being backed up will be around 500gb-1tb, running on a S7A. We've got a call into our local Tivoli rep, but like usual,

Re: Memory Tuning For AIX

2002-01-02 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
I'd trust more experienced help, but here are my thoughts . . . pi + po indicate you are constantly paging. This probably means you need more memory, but could be caused by aggressive aix filesystem caching. If so, vmtune can help limit filesystem caching. Your cpu is hardly being hit. us +

Re: Point system has me very confused

2001-12-11 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
I agree. The last time we needed to order more client licenses it was impossible to get someone from Tivoli to even talk to us. We wanted to spend money, but they wouldn't respond to emails or voice mails. I found this amazing! I had to get our local IBM storage rep to contact Tivoli before

Re: running multiple servers on one AIX machine

2001-12-10 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Just what all do you copy in order to set up a independent tsm instance? Thanks Rick On 10 Dec 2001 at 9:13, Davidson, Becky wrote: I keep a copy of everything regarding each machine in it's own directory tree including the code. Then I have a rc.adsmserv2 and rc.adsmserv4 to start each.

TSM Platform Change

2001-11-27 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
What is involved in changing a TSM server from one platform (HPUX) to another (AIX)? I'm involved in a project that needs to move a TSM server from hp to ibm. I know the db needs exported/imported, unloaded/loaded, backedup/restored (I'm not sure how, but I've heard it can be done). The bigger

Library spanning

2001-11-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 25 Nov 2001 at 19:12, Seay, Paul wrote: The issue that I see is that a storage pool in the future will need to span more than one library simply because of the number of needed devices and exploiting the flexibility of SANs. I hope TSM Development is working on this. I just had this

Re: 3590 Fiber drives

2001-11-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 26 Nov 2001 at 12:12, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote: Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with the 50 micron cables as opposed to the 62.5 micron cables and 3590 drives. Taking into consideration these will be on a SAN soon but for now direct connect. We only need to run about 50 ft

STK Powerhorn Silos

2001-11-14 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
How well does TSM work with STK silos? - issues - problems Thanks Rick

Re: Server Database Performance

2001-11-08 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 8 Nov 2001, at 10:29, Seay, Paul wrote: Based on numbers that I have heard, you are looking at as much as a day. It depends on your disk subsystem speed. Just be cause it is EMC does not mean it is fast. It must be laid out properly and not all EMC disk is created equal. Absolutely!

High %sys time

2001-11-08 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
When our TSM server get's a very high cpu utilization, what is high is the %sys. %usr%sys%wio %idle 00:43:28 22 56 11 12 00:44:28 22 57 10 11 00:45:28 22 55 10 12 03:37:30

Re: 3494+VTS+TSM

2001-10-31 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We share a 3494 with a mainframe vts and a aix/rs6k based tsm server. The vts origionally had 6 frame units with 6 drives (base end unit, high availability frame at the other end, and 4 storage frames with drives). To support TSM we've now added 8 more frames and 12 drives. It took the IBM

no-query restore

2001-10-24 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
The TSM manuals talk about a no-query restore where the TSM server does the work of figuring out what files to restore and the best order use. The documentation for no-query is only under the restore cmd - nothing is said about the gui. Will the Web gui perform a no-query? Thanks Rick

Re: Netware restores and backup sets

2001-10-23 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 22 Oct 2001, at 23:07, Mark Stapleton wrote: Is this sound reasoning? No. Thoughts? Use some logic. A restore reads a file off of a tape and sends it along the SCSI/fiber connection to the TSM server, which in turn pipes it through the I/O bus (getting it from SCSI to ethernet/token

Netware restores and backup sets

2001-10-22 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
W did a test full restore of a netware server. The restore was around 40gb and took 8 hours. The Netware admins were disappointed with this time. To try and compare this time with something else, we created a backup set for the same server - it took 3 hours. My take is that a backup set

Re: Netware restores and backup sets

2001-10-22 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 22 Oct 2001, at 15:48, John Naylor wrote: Because you produced your backupset in 3 hours does not mean you will get it back in 3 hours. The backupset speed is determined by how fast your host server can pull the entries from the database and write to its tapes These speeds are likely to

Re: Monitor for ADSM - wish list

2001-09-25 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Since converting from Legato to TSM, I find the ONLY thing I miss is the really slick legato monitoring interface. Oh how I wish tsm had one, kind of like topas or monitor do for AIX. I find it tedious at best to try and piece together a picture of what the server is doing from several tsm

Re: Etherchannel and EBU backups.

2001-09-24 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 24 Sep 2001, at 15:46, Zlatko Krastev/ACIT wrote: Eric, if you set-up an EtherChannel on both sides (!) it is like connecting through 400 Mb/s interface (virtual one which distributes load on real ones - ent0, ent1, ...). This is done at interface (OSI Level 2) and has to be transparent

Etherchannel

2001-09-24 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
There's lots of misunderstanding about Etherchannel. Check out this Cisco web page for a highlevel overview. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/techno/media/lan/ether/channel/pro dlit/faste_an.htm

Re: Is there a way to delete all files that were backed up lastnight for certain clients

2001-09-19 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 19 Sep 2001, at 10:35, David Longo wrote: That question has come up here about viruses. I don't think there is an easy way. Maybe someone has some experience/ideas. Lets suppose that instead of just a few clients, you wanted to do this for all clients - or at least be willing to accept

Re: Defrag Database

2001-09-17 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
The question is what is a reorg? I would think moving the db to a new volume would just move the db blocks - not changing their contents. It would collapse the unused db blocks, but I think this would be different result than a unload/load, which would recreate all db objects. Kind of like the

DNS Domain change effect on TSM

2001-09-17 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Our current internal network has a bunch of dns domains resulting from poor planning, mergers, etc. A decision has been made to re-domain(?) our network. We are going to move all our network under one new domain. IP numbers are NOT changing, just the domain. The plan is to put all hosts in

Re: Tivoli vs Arcserve 2000

2001-09-06 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 6 Sep 2001, at 9:08, Cory Heikel wrote: First and foremost, the support for arcserv is lousy at best - While I didn't work with Archserv, I've watched our archserv admins and had many conversations with them. - Their support truly is very, very bad. - The product doesn't scale. It seems

AIT1 drive problems

2001-09-05 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We pulled the plug on our old Legato backup server a short while ago, which had 2 qualstar 46120 libraries with AIT1 tape drives. We decided to try and hook one of the these qualstar's up to our TSM server (3494 with Magstars). We got it up and configured in tsm, but when we go and try to label

Expiration Processing

2001-08-31 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
While expiration is running you can see on a q pro cmd how many objects are inspected and expired. Is there any way to tell the number of objects expiration still has to inspect? In other words, I'm trying to find some way to know where exp is and now much longer it might run. THanks Rick

Re: TSM DB/Disk Pool - Disk tuning question

2001-08-30 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 30 Aug 2001, at 14:48, Jeff Bach wrote: 1. A single backups runs to a single volume as perceived by ADSM. The first session runs to the first volume allocated to the storage pool. The second session runs to the second logical volume allocated to the storage pool. The third sessions to

Re: TSM Bare Restore AIX Different Arch

2001-08-23 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
How do you restore the mksysb that was done to disk and was backed up to TSM? The only way I know of to restore one is via NIM. Thanks Rick On 22 Aug 2001, at 14:22, Prather, Wanda wrote: We do the mksysb's to disk. Then TSM backs them up. Then we only need the tape version of mksysb for

Re: EMC, Timefinder, Oracle, and TSM

2001-08-14 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
In general, yes you can. How were you planning to perform the bcv split? The normal ways are to either shutdown Oracle (cold backup) or put Oracle into backup mode (hot backup). Either way, once restored you can force oracle into recovery mode and roll forward through any logs. Yes, you will

Re: SQL-BACKTRACK ORACLE

2001-08-14 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We use sql-backtrack for Sybase, but not Oracle - never wanted to spend the money. We've also looked at RMAN, but rejected it for various reasons. The incremental hot seems good, but you're still just pulling out changed blocks, which is basically whats in the logs. The vast majority of our

Testing new releases?

2001-08-08 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Is it possible, on one AIX server, to run two TSM servers where each server is a different TSM version? For example, one TSM server running at TSM4.1 and another server running at version 4.2? We want to do some testing with 4.2 (we're on 4.1) with a spare scsi jukebox. We could think of no

Re: 3494 mystery

2001-08-07 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 7 Aug 2001, at 14:22, Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM wrote: Hi Rick! The 3494 uses the library manager (the PC with an customized OS/2, which is located inside your library control unit frame) to control this. Your AIX host uses the ATLDD driver to address the library. The library manager assigns

bufpoolsize and AIX

2001-08-03 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Our bufpool hit ratio has been running in the mid 90% and I would like to increase it's size. Currently, it's set to: dsmserv.opt: BUFPoolsize 1048576 Our tsm server is a hand-me-down with lots of memory - 12GB. I decided to double the bufpoolsize parm to 2048576. When I tried to start

scratch volumes

2001-07-25 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We have TSM setup with several tape pools in our 3494. The tape pools are collocated. When we add scratch volumes to the library, TSM grabs the scratch tapes for the tape pools even though there are lots of tapes only partially full. I understand this - it's the effect of collocation. The

Re: LARGE FILE BACKUPS THROUGH A FIREWALL.

2001-07-16 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Another idea . . . . Sounds like the backup is working correctly, just taking a long time. What is the load on the firewall system during the backup? You might be hitting a max throughput on the firewall. Try turning on client compression to ease the firewalls load. Rick On 16 Jul 2001, at

Re: Database backup performance

2001-06-28 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Our db backup stats are below. We do 2 db backups per day, one to disk and one to tape. all pages: 11,266,048 (44g) used pages: 8,387,060 (34g) disk bkup: 60min - local ESS disk tape bkup: 60min - 3590 drives processor: 6k-s7a

Restore to different system

2001-06-14 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
I'm sure TSM can do this, but initial hunting didin't turn up anything. It's probably right before our eyes . . . We have systems A and B that we backup to TSM. THey are the same architecture (AIX). We want to do a TSM restore from system A's backups to system b. How do you setup TSM so

Re: IBM ESS Model 2105-F20

2001-06-12 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Yes, this would be a consequence of moving access from one ess port to another. Each ess port has a separate wwpn. During the cfgmgr run the wwpn of the ess port is stored in the ODM under the hdisk definition. So, when you change the ess port used by a lun, AIX still tries to access the lun

TSM server hanging

2001-05-31 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Were having problems with our TSM server hanging during nightly backups. server: RS/6K-S7A tsm:TSM 4.1.1 Drives: 3494 with 8 3590E drives Within the last several weeks our server has hung during nightly backups about a half dozen times. Actually, we don't think it's hung, just running

Re: Multiple TSM* Servers On Same Machine

2001-05-11 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We will be looking at running multiple TSM instances, probably on one box, later this year. Our server has plenty of horsepower and bandwidth . . . the only reason we may need to do this is database size. The more I ponder this the madder I'm getting! Why should I have to purchase another

Re: anyone else heard this?

2001-05-01 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
My understanding is that there is only one vendor for the tapes, Imation, even though you might get them from someone else (even IBM). Rick On 1 May 2001, at 13:51, Talafous, John G. wrote: Yes, I was told two weeks ago that there was a 9-12 week wait. If it is now 8-10 weeks, there must be

Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-30 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
You're getting you terms mixed up. 9000 kB/s is 9MB/s, as you state. A 100/mbps ethernet (fast ethernet) is bits-per-second, not bytes-per second. 100mbps=10mB/s, so if your getting 9mB/s, your doing quite well. This is your bottleneck. To get faster you're going to need gigabit ethernet,

Re: Server pricing information

2001-04-30 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
You won't find it. Tivoli no longer publishes list prices for TSM, at least that's what they told me when I complained about not finding price info. The only way to get pricing is to request a quote. Oh, BTW, the find print on the quote doesn't allow you to tell anyone else the price they

Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-30 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 30 Apr 2001, at 11:24, Burton, Robert wrote: We have benchmarked this to deathEMC/IBM and Hitachi disk we can get 8 to 10 MB/s, on both IBM 3590e's and STK 9840 we are getting 35 to 40 MB/sec We use IBm Shark disk for our TSM staging pools. One raid set in the Shark (8 drives,

Re: 500GB Backup

2001-04-27 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 27 Apr 2001, at 12:32, Dearman, Richard wrote: I am not using any TDP product. I'm picking up oracle db dump files with the regular tsm client. Going over a 100mb ethernet segment. Then migrating the files to a 3494 library. All the data goes to disk first. -Original

Re: AIX Question

2001-04-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
According to the release material I've read, AIX5L will allow multiple default gateways. You might check if this is back-ported to some patch level for AIX 433. Rick On 26 Apr 2001, at 10:42, Taylor, David wrote: By definition, you can only have one default gateway. David Taylor Senior

TSM cold backups

2001-04-19 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
As our TSM Database grows, were hitting the inevitable question of how big to let the db grow vs purchasing and bringing up another TSM instance. We're not there yet, but we can see this on the horizon. The issues isn't TSM performance, but db backup/recovery. This got me thinking (always a

Tivoli reselling BMR

2001-04-17 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Looks like IBM (well, Tivoli really) is reselling BMR. http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/usaletsparms=H_201-101

Re: Amount of Data Backed Up Each Night

2001-04-09 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We backup about 1.2TB per night. 850gb of Lotus Notes and +400gb of normal stuff. Rick On 5 Apr 2001, at 13:39, Diana J.Cline wrote: Is there anyone else out there who is backing up 300gb per night or more? If so, i'd love to converse with you.

Re: Comparison of Backup Products

2001-03-29 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Well, we are in the process of converting to TSM from Legato (Unix) and Archserv (NT, Netware). Legato: I've delt with lots of companies support organizations, but Legato's is absolutely the worse. Code quality? Check the Legato mailing list - The complaints loud and clear about the code

TSM Client on AS/400?

2001-03-29 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
As I stated in a previous post, we are merging with a company that uses the AS/400 platform for their Notes server. Ours is currently on NT, but the merger teams sound like they are leaning toward AS/400 for the merged company. From a previous post I learned that there is no TDP for Notes on

TSM, Domino, Transaction Logging, AS400

2001-03-23 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We are merging with a company that uses IBM AS400 for their Notes server. It's looking like the combined company may standardize on the AS400 for this function. Neither company uses Domino transaction logging, which means we're both doing full backups every night. The Notes merger team is

Re: SAP and 3494 performance.

2001-03-20 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Thanks for great info! q) What kind of a client system are you using? - machine type - # of processors q) When you say " don't multiplex with tdp" I'm not sure what you mean. - Are you using TDP for SAP? - Why Not? Thanks! Rick On 20 Mar 2001, at 10:59,

Re: Multiple ADSM/TSM Instances Sharing a Library Via ACSLS

2001-03-16 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Have you had any support problems between IBM and STK over the IBM drives in the STK library? It's possible we may run this config in the future and I'm interested in how the 2 companies cooperate. Rick One library is home of 8 9840 drives attached to RS/6000 S7A via SCSI, the other is

Re: Point-In-Time Restore

2001-03-08 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Thanks Andy, We've tried to get an answer to this question since we first put in TSM (3rd qtr last year), but couldn't find an answer, including from support. Your example exactly describes our situation, but, our systems don't appear to act like your describing. We have a domain called "AIX"

Re: Compression / No Compression ???

2001-03-08 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Oracle db's are highly compressable. We run our Oracle backups through the unix compress utility. I've seen tablespace files on a newly created instance (no data loaded yet) compress from 1gb down to 10mb. A normal tablespace file full of data will tipically compress about 3-to-1. In general,

Re: Backupsets and cd burners

2001-03-06 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 6 Mar 2001, at 7:55, Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote: 3. I noticed the post recently that talks about putting backupsets on CD. I have never heard of a cd-writer/rewriter on an AIX box, which doesn't mean it's not possible. I'm wondering if anyone has a solution for creating backupsets on an

Re: 3590E

2001-02-15 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
The tape with the splice was an Imation tape purchased through IBM. Rick On 15 Feb 2001, at 10:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...there was a splice... Rick - Yikes! Most bad. Could you post to ADSM-L what brand of tape that was? thanks, Richard

Re: 3590E K tape

2001-02-15 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
WHile we've had some problems with K tapes, overall were very happy with them. Out of about 1600 tapes in use, we've have problems with about 6. Rick On 15 Feb 2001, at 12:50, Debbie Lane wrote: Thanks for all the input regarding this tape. Imation is the only manufacture. I have decided

Re: BMR Software

2001-02-14 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Go download the DR redbook Could please give the full name of the Redbook you are refering to? Initial searches on the redbook web site didn't find anything. Thanks Rick

tsm upgrades and testing

2001-02-09 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Here is a real general question . . . . . How do you handle tsm upgrade testing? When a new release comes out do you: a) dump it on you server, upgrade and see if it works? b) create a test instance and try it out first? Related questions: 1) I know you can have multiple tsm instances

Re: Achievable throughput using Gigabit connections?

2001-01-26 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 26 Jan 2001, at 9:10, Steve Schaub wrote: I am looking to find out what kind of mb/sec other shops are getting. Our environment is: Hi Steve, Our TSM server is a RS6k-S7A with IBM ESS disk staging area. The system has 2 gigabitethernet connections. THese connections seem to hit around

Notes: conversion to logging and TDP

2001-01-05 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
Hi Everyone, As with many tsm sites, we are struggling with Notes backup. Our environment is that we backup Notes from several large centralized replication servers, not the actual servers users interact with. Our Notes servers do NOT use the v5 transaction log feature, so we basically do a

Re: what is dsmserv.dsk

2000-10-02 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
The first time I ran into the dsmserv.dsk file I was completely confused. The QuickStart guide has 2 references to it: page 2 and 7. Neither gives any idea of what it is or why you need it. The comment on page 7 about this file being read from the directory where the server is started is under

Re: Cleaning a Qualstar 46120 library

2000-09-29 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
I can't speak for AIT-2, but I have 2 46120's with AIT-1 drives. Now, my libraries are 4+ years old (upgraded once from exabyte to ait1), but they do not have any ability to auto-clean drives. You need your bkup program to control this. As far as self cleaning, I found that if I didn't clean

Re: Server won't start from the INITTAB

2000-09-12 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 12 Sep 2000, at 8:04, Richard Sims wrote: We are having problems starting our server automatically via the INITTAB file. ... Explanation (fstat error): A file or directory in the path name does not exist. The server is testing for its database and recovery log volumes, per the

Shark setup for TSM

2000-09-07 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
We will be using a IBM Shark disk subsystem for our TSM db and staging pools. I'm interested in advise from others who use a Shark for these purposes on how you have it setup. 1) My first thought for the tsm db, is to allocate small luns on each raid set, combine them into one AIX volume group.

Re: Mksysb

2000-07-28 Thread Richard L. Rhodes
On 28 Jul 2000, at 11:01, Shekhar Dhotre wrote: Storing mksyb on s solaris is ok, but whats the use? i mean how we can use it to reintsall the crasghed AIX srver. it should be on tape , i dont know i am wrong or right? My understanding is that you can only network install a mksysb via nim.