Re: VMware VCB and non windows OS

2009-03-06 Thread Kevin Boatright
With our Netware boxes, we use the fullvm option with VCB to backup the entire 
virtual machine.   You will have to install the client on the VM if you want 
file level backups.

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From: Gee, Norman [mailto:norman@lc.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:52 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] VMware VCB and non windows OS


How does one backs up a non Windows OS in a VMware environment?  The TSM
client (5.5.1) in the VCB explicitly states that the BACKUP VM command
will only backup a Window OS.  Would one install the appropriate TSM
client inside the VM and schedule the VM directly?  Any other options?


VMware VCB and non windows OS

2009-03-05 Thread Gee, Norman
How does one backs up a non Windows OS in a VMware environment?  The TSM
client (5.5.1) in the VCB explicitly states that the BACKUP VM command
will only backup a Window OS.  Would one install the appropriate TSM
client inside the VM and schedule the VM directly?  Any other options?


SV: VMware VCB and non windows OS

2009-03-05 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi Norman,
What OS does the guest OS running? OS/2, FreeBSD, BeOS, EyeOS?
If you are running Solaris, Linux, Netware, Open Enterprise Server or any other 
OS you maybe can find a TSM Client and install it locally in the guest OS.

If you run a OS that TSM don't support, why not install TSM on the VMware ESX 
Host machine and run the Perl scripts that can make a snapshot or freeze the VM 
an you can then backup the VMDK files without any issue. When you freeze it, 
you just tell it to write to another directory during your backup so the VMDK 
file and other files is not in use when you run the TSM BA Client.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

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Ämne: VMware VCB and non windows OS

How does one backs up a non Windows OS in a VMware environment?  The TSM
client (5.5.1) in the VCB explicitly states that the BACKUP VM command
will only backup a Window OS.  Would one install the appropriate TSM
client inside the VM and schedule the VM directly?  Any other options?


Re: VMware VCB and non windows OS

2009-03-05 Thread Gee, Norman
I was looking at Linux and Solaris x86.  Both of these OS have TSM clients 
available, but apparently cannot be backup by using the VCB.  I figure I can 
backup the VMDK image file, but not the individual files in the zfs.  I was 
trying to find out what other options would I have and whether these options 
will change with version 6.1. 

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of 
Christian Svensson
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:46 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: SV: VMware VCB and non windows OS

Hi Norman,
What OS does the guest OS running? OS/2, FreeBSD, BeOS, EyeOS?
If you are running Solaris, Linux, Netware, Open Enterprise Server or any other 
OS you maybe can find a TSM Client and install it locally in the guest OS.

If you run a OS that TSM don't support, why not install TSM on the VMware ESX 
Host machine and run the Perl scripts that can make a snapshot or freeze the VM 
an you can then backup the VMDK files without any issue. When you freeze it, 
you just tell it to write to another directory during your backup so the VMDK 
file and other files is not in use when you run the TSM BA Client.

Best Regards
Christian Svensson

Cell: +46-70-325 1577
E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
Skype: cristie.christian.svensson

Från: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ads...@vm.marist.edu] f#246;r Gee, Norman 
[norman@lc.ca.gov]
Skickat: den 6 mars 2009 02:52
Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Ämne: VMware VCB and non windows OS

How does one backs up a non Windows OS in a VMware environment?  The TSM
client (5.5.1) in the VCB explicitly states that the BACKUP VM command
will only backup a Window OS.  Would one install the appropriate TSM
client inside the VM and schedule the VM directly?  Any other options?


Re: VMware VCB and non windows OS

2009-03-05 Thread Stef Coene
On Friday 06 March 2009, Gee, Norman wrote:
 I was looking at Linux and Solaris x86.  Both of these OS have TSM clients
 available, but apparently cannot be backup by using the VCB.  I figure I
 can backup the VMDK image file, but not the individual files in the zfs.  I
 was trying to find out what other options would I have and whether these
 options will change with version 6.1.
See the VCB as a mounted, read-only copy of the vmdk files.
So the VCB server has access to the SAN storage.  It mounts the vmdk files
read-only so it can access the files and data.  It runs an incremental backup
of the files in name of the actual guest.  Only windows is supported.


Stef


Re: VMware VCB and non windows OS

2009-03-05 Thread Remco Post

On 6 mrt 2009, at 02:52, Gee, Norman wrote:


How does one backs up a non Windows OS in a VMware environment?  The
TSM
client (5.5.1) in the VCB explicitly states that the BACKUP VM command
will only backup a Window OS.  Would one install the appropriate TSM
client inside the VM and schedule the VM directly?  Any other options?



Hi,

I guess it should be possible in theory to have file level incremental
backups of Linux and Solaris in VMware, but no solution I know can
actually do it.

With VMware 4, which is about to be released, it will be possible to
make block level incremental backups of your VMDK. Now I know it's not
the same as a fie level incremental. Also I know that StorServer will
by that about time have their VCB agent updated to take advantage of
that possibility (Kelly?).

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Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl
+31 6 24821 622