Re: Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists

2009-05-14 Thread Gabor Szabo
Hi everyone,

I am sorry I write only now but I was busy.

So I was the one who copied the data and I am sorry I did not ask you
Elaine first to access the database.

Guys please, let's not play the blaming game. That does not lead to any
good place.


If I can get access to the database I might be able to update the data a bit.

If I can get the data dump I am ok with hosting the site assuming both
you Elaine
and Ask and Robert and whoever else has a say in it agree.

AFAIK both lists.perl.org and lists.cpan.org show the same content but
currently
they point to different IP addresses.

regards
   Gabor



On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Elaine Ashton eash...@mac.com wrote:

 On May 11, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bill Ward wrote:

 I think the blame game is silly here - we should be looking for solutions
 moving forward, not who's fault things are.  The best thing to do now, IMHO,
 would be to either change the hosting or keep it where it is but grant
 access to let others help maintain it.  Is that an option you'd consider?

 Oh, getting upbraided for having a baby and not having time to read email is
 amusement I could only get from perl. :)

 I laid out the options and yes, I've given accounts to people before and I
 can still if there are interested parties.

 e.



Re: Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists

2009-05-11 Thread Elaine Ashton


On May 11, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote:


Hi all!

I was doing a regular update for http://perl-begin.org/ when I updated
http://perl-begin.org/mailing-lists/ and noticed that it still  
linked to the
old Mailing lists' database at list.cpan.org. Now I learned on the  
CPAN

Testers mailing list that Gabor started creating a better list here:


Well, nobody asked for the data nor did anyone ever offer updates.  
I've maintained for quite some time that it should be tied to the list  
configuration from the perl.org listserv, but that never happened. I  
gave an account to someone a long while back for such work but they  
didn't do the work they offered to do.


I guess it wouldn't be perl if 10 websites containing slightly  
different information weren't around but you can have the mysql tables  
or dumps if you want them.


e.


Re: Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists

2009-05-11 Thread Elaine Ashton


On May 11, 2009, at 6:37 PM, David Golden wrote:


I don't object to you being busy -- it happens to all of us -- but
blaming others for not trying hard enough is absurd.


You probably aren't in the middle of a trans-con move, starting a new  
job, etc in addition to the baby. I mean, sure, why shouldn't I have  
spent what precious little time I had to myself scanning all the perl  
mailing lists for people suddenly taking an interest in stuff I did  
years ago? That's what my husband is for. I'm getting old and in a  
community as generally thankless as this one is, you'll have to try a  
little harder at guilting me over really being too busy at the time to  
have noticed.


My name was mentioned and my husband is also pretty easy to find.  
Again, people just tend to complain as it's easier than focusing on  
the solution. If someone wants the data, I've offered the tables. If  
you have a better site, it can be hosted where the old one is or I'm  
sure we reassign the DNS. It's really not worth looking at my date  
book for how I spent my time in early 2007.


e.



Re: Help Needed in Sorting and Updating the List of Perl Mailing Lists

2009-05-11 Thread Elaine Ashton


On May 11, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Bill Ward wrote:


I think the blame game is silly here - we should be looking for  
solutions moving forward, not who's fault things are.  The best  
thing to do now, IMHO, would be to either change the hosting or keep  
it where it is but grant access to let others help maintain it.  Is  
that an option you'd consider?


Oh, getting upbraided for having a baby and not having time to read  
email is amusement I could only get from perl. :)


I laid out the options and yes, I've given accounts to people before  
and I can still if there are interested parties.


e.