[AFMUG] Thomas Freeburg

2019-11-08 Thread Colin Stanners
I was doing some research, visited the Bitlomat site (remember them?) and googled Thomas Freeburg, who was instrumental in creating the Canopy system. Turns out that he died in 2018. RIP great engineer.

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread chuck
Yep, similar to Remec but not the same. Diameter of the nose is a bit larger I think but shorter. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 12:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface I believe that all Exalt radios have a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Screw the WPS button

2019-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
WPS is bad, just Google it. But some WiFi range extenders tell you to use it, as do some WiFi devices like printers. You can almost always enter the WiFi password instead, but the instructions make it sound like a WPS button is a basic human right. Kind of like rebooting your modem. You

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Daniel White
Agreed all around. As far as the FCC is concerned about battery backup for an ONT if offered at the time of sale with VoIP... it is the customer responsibility to maintain the batteries.  If I was a FTTH provider I'd probably offer a battery maintenance plan or just do it but I could see

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Screw the WPS button

2019-11-08 Thread Mathew Howard
Same. I don't believe I ever have used one of those buttons... On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:32 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I completely agree. I disable it whenever possible. > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> Has anyone ever used the WPS

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Moffett
The code I read for this area (and yours may differ of course) didn't specifically say a POTS line was required.  It said any electronics required for the alarm have to be protected from power failures for some certain number of hours (4 maybe? 8?).  A copper POTS line meets that requirement

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread Joseph.Schraml
Nate - SIAE has worked with Raidowaves to provide what we call Retrofit Kits (RFKs) to interface with our ALFOPlus2 radio. These RFKs can be provided for 2', 3' 4' and 6ft antenna sizes. Keep the antenna (and it's alignment) and swap out the Exalt interface for a SIAE interface. SIAE

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread Tim Hardy
From my recollection, most radio vendors had proprietary mounts and they had contracts with the antenna OEMs that forbade them from selling or even manufacturing these.. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 8, 2019, at 2:40 PM, Daniel White wrote: > >  > If they are 2ft dishes the cost for adapters

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread Nate Burke
No idea what's there now, these are up in the air, only info I can get is anything via the management interface. Sounds like It'll be easier just to put up new dishes. On 11/8/2019 1:39 PM, Daniel White wrote: If they are 2ft dishes the cost for adapters and what not will outweigh the cost to

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread Daniel White
If they are 2ft dishes the cost for adapters and what not will outweigh the cost to just install new antennas. If they are 4ft or bigger then makes sense.  3ft is a wash. Many vendors do make adapter plates... I think Cambium has one for instance. It used to be the antenna manufacturers

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Daniel White
I'll defer to your wise opinion on that manner :-) But as Tim said cellular backup is the generally recommended method that is compliant. photograph Daniel White Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2766 direct:+1 (702) 470-2770 ch...@wbmfg.com wrote on

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Screw the WPS button

2019-11-08 Thread Steve Jones
i tend to see it as an option on alot of routers that dont even have a button On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:32 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I completely agree. I disable it whenever possible. > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > >> Has anyone

Re: [AFMUG] RF Goggles

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Moffett
Damn you're right. On 11/8/2019 12:11 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Here is the problem: To get a “view” you have to have a very large array of antennas or you have to scan the scene line a near field range.  So the goggles would have to have apertures like 10 feet in diameter or more or a

Re: [AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread Colin Stanners
I believe that all Exalt radios have a proprietary interface that's a tiny bit difference from other licensed radio waveguide interfaces. Radiowaves sells retrofit kits, I believe that on most of their dishes these can be installed from the back and without taking down the dish /radome. E.g. to

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Bill Prince
Not just the cell towers. Anything that needed power went down. Remote terminals for both landlines and fiber lines went down as well. Nothing was designed for a 4-7 day power outage. The added complication was that it was such a huge area. During a storm or other "nature event", power would

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Screw the WPS button

2019-11-08 Thread Jason McKemie
I completely agree. I disable it whenever possible. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Has anyone ever used the WPS button to do anything other than break the > internet? > > I want to find whoever invented this and kick them in the groin. > > > > -- > AF mailing list >

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Robert Andrews
Which was probably a total failure during the power downing ( can't call it outage when it was done on purpose ) in California and all the cell towers that dropped out. Someone needs to start rethinking the infrastructure for the real future instead of fantasy-land... Didn't think I would

[AFMUG] Exalt Extendair Antenna Interface

2019-11-08 Thread Nate Burke
One of my customer has a private link with an old set of Exalt Extendair rc11000 radios in the air on Radiowaves dishes. We're looking to get them re-licensed into new radios with higher bandwidth, but if we don't have to touch the dishes that would be great. Is that a REMEC antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Tim Reichhart
Most of the fire alarms are now going to cellular data so i dont know how old this fire code is now but yeah.   -Original Message- From: "Daniel White" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Date: 11/08/19 12:15 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question Tell them it is

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread chuck
So, if you only have FTTH with an ONT and the backbone on the ONT/PON is ethernet on it and the dial tone is on SIP, closed network high quality SIP but still SIP, G.711 coding is this POTS? Is this VOIP? From: Daniel White Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Daniel White
Tell them it is required by fire code to be on a POTS line not a VoIP line.  While that isn't true everywhere, in many places it is (just like emergency elevator phones). You may look into getting a resale account with the phone company for POTS lines so you can bundle that in. photograph

Re: [AFMUG] RF Goggles

2019-11-08 Thread chuck
Here is the problem: To get a “view” you have to have a very large array of antennas or you have to scan the scene line a near field range. So the goggles would have to have apertures like 10 feet in diameter or more or a mechanism to scan the antenna over that area at 5 GHz to get any kind of

Re: [AFMUG] RF Goggles

2019-11-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wish for them when we are out fixing reflection issues at customer sites. We had one this week that the tech moved maybe 1 foot lower and gained over 20 dB. But why? Why, why, why? What is it reflecting off? Unknown, because we can’t see RF like we see light. From: AF On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] RF Goggles

2019-11-08 Thread Lewis Bergman
I don't know for what purpose you would use something like that. We do BDA's and we have to record measurements. Sounds nifty, just not real useful. Maybe I am to far out of the loop now. On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 10:16 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > In all seriousness: Think of those 3D video viewers

Re: [AFMUG] RF Goggles

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Moffett
In all seriousness:  Think of those 3D video viewers that are just goggles holding your smart phone.  Add an array of 5ghz antenna with similar beamwidth to eyeballs (about 30 degrees), some kind of DSP module connecting to the antennas, and the DSP module to the smartphone with USB-C. Add a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Screw the WPS button

2019-11-08 Thread Brian Sullivan
I use it at random places to get online without asking someone the password (which they don't remember). Some WiFi repeaters use WPS to configure as well. On 11/8/2019 9:53 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Has anyone ever used the WPS button to do anything other than break the internet? I want to

[AFMUG] OT: Screw the WPS button

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Moffett
Has anyone ever used the WPS button to do anything other than break the internet? I want to find whoever invented this and kick them in the groin. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Moffett
I had one of those "my antique alarm system doesn't work on your ATA, and I know you said get a POTS line for the alarm but I ignored you" calls. Was trying to troubleshoot that.  Nothing major. On 11/7/2019 5:26 PM, Nate Burke wrote: What are you trying to accomplish?  My Alarm panel has

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Live TV Streaming

2019-11-08 Thread chuck
As long as I can get me some Gold Rush and some Shameless, I am good. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Live TV Streaming I can get Youtube TV, but it looks like it bulk's out

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Live TV Streaming

2019-11-08 Thread Nate Burke
I can get Youtube TV, but it looks like it bulk's out it's channel list with sports, and doesn't have some of the other non-sports programming. The Reality is I probably wouldn't miss the things I wouldn't get. I don't do channel surfing, the Live TV is mostly just for background, and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Live TV Streaming

2019-11-08 Thread Joe Novak
Plex + hdhomerun quatro for locals. Sling for the few other channels I watch, and I can watch both of them anywhere. On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 6:58 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Probably in a fringe area for youtubetv... > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Thursday, November

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage

2019-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown
I have been guilty of measuring voltage with an ammeter. But I was probably 12 years old. Those types of lessons cost a bit of tuition but they stick with you. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2019, at 5:33 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > For our EE power class (motors, generators, etc.)

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Moffett
IDK, I think you have to break a few things to do any real learning. On 11/8/2019 7:32 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: For our EE power class (motors, generators, etc.) they decided we should take a lab exam.   My exam time was for the second session.  When the elevator door opened on the lab floor

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage

2019-11-08 Thread Mark Radabaugh
For our EE power class (motors, generators, etc.) they decided we should take a lab exam. My exam time was for the second session. When the elevator door opened on the lab floor the burnt electrical smell was pretty obvious. Professor comes walking out of the exam with an armful of

Re: [AFMUG] Industrial or Outdoor Ethernet switches

2019-11-08 Thread Lincs_Chel
Hi Daniel; Thanks for the suggestion.  That really looks like a possible solution.   Do you know if this require some controller or can operate standalone.  As I figure Ubiquiti Unifi series requires some type of cloud-based or on-premise controller or something. Linc On 06/11/2019 3:06