The sats that are up there now also are not equipped to communicate with
each other. There is no inner satellite communication. Everything has to
come down to ground stations right now.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:08 PM Bill Prince wrote:
>
> SpaceX got another 60 Starlink sats into orbit this
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Most of those are achievable by a small wisp. But CLEC status is not so
easy.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 3:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CAF-II lack of bidders?
CAF-II bidding is long since over, and
CAF-II bidding is long since over, and RDOF isn’t out yet. The rules for both
programs, while available to WISP’s have significant hurdles that keep smaller
entities from bidding on them - audited financials, letters of credit, PE sign
off, telephone service offerings, CLEC status, etc.
Ryan,
Would you be open to a call about the Lineward? We are pretty interested in
one of those for fiber runs but are looking for real world usage experience.
I talked with the company this morning and got a bunch of question answered but
it is tough to know how much of the answers are
SpaceX got another 60 Starlink sats into orbit this morning. That brings
the functional constellation to 180 sats. The first batch of 60 don't
count since they are not equipped to communicate with each other.
Various reports say either 300 or 400 sats are required to get a basic
minimal
Those make a hell of a mess. Gotta stay true to the Lineward Vibratory Plow,
causes very little ground disturbance
Ryan Hill
Operations Manager
Amplex Internet
(419)837-5015 Ext 1047
www.amplex.net
https://www.eztrench.com/trenchers/groundsaw-ez9100/
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:52 PM Carl Peterson
wrote:
> There is a deeper EZ-Trencher that goes down about 13" We have one for
> our FL crew. Works pretty well and cuts right through irrigation lines
> like they aren't even there.
>
> On
There is a deeper EZ-Trencher that goes down about 13" We have one for our
FL crew. Works pretty well and cuts right through irrigation lines like
they aren't even there.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:57 PM Josh Luthman
wrote:
> We got a Mini Sneaker (which is super old, old company, taken over
Well, we are probably not one of their traditional channels. I would think
they would appoint someone as the WISP sales manager.
From: Tushar Patel
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:33 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix (was RE: Google/Nest WiFi
Chuck,
Maybe you get special consideration! But my experience has been different.
I had requested a quote at WISPAPALOOSA, never heard back from them, Finally I
wanted to make decision so I filled out a online form on 1/20, I got 1 email
about they will be in touch, I left a message on
They've been great to me. I've only ordered a couple of boxes.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 11:30 AM Cassidy B. Larson wrote:
> Just like all other vendors, your price is based on the QTY you order.
>
We got a Mini Sneaker (which is super old, old company, taken over by
another, etc) and it seems great. Paid 3k for it. Have yet to do my fiber
installs yet - soon!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:51 AM
Make it a contest. Who can suck the most rum through a cat 5 cable in 30
seconds.
From: g...@shireeninc.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 11:32 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
ATTENTION / ATTENTION
If your tests include any
I wonder if they will have downtilt being at 30 feet or higher. The reports I
have read so far say you have to be looking at a base station to get the
benefit of the MM signal and moving a foot in any direction can make it stop
working. Seems like marketing hype to me.
From: Brian Webster
We had an opportunity to bid on CAF via the New York State BPO in 2018.
Nobody involved like the strings attached. At this point I can't
remember what the "strings" were, just that they sounded like a nuisance.
Perhaps the bigger issue was that the public contributions seemed to be
ATTENTION / ATTENTION
If your tests include any of these liquid compositions other than water, I must
announce our disclaimer of our product.
However, I would more than happy to participate in field testing your
application at the upcoming Wispa event in Dallas.
From: AF On Behalf Of
like lime, bar syrup, triple sec, and tequila?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:21 PM Bill Prince wrote:
> Tomato juice would be a no-no. Better to use citrus; like lime or lemon.
> Gin & tonic would work (with a little lime in it).
>
>
> bp
>
>
>
> On 1/29/2020 10:13 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
>
Tomato juice would be a no-no. Better to use citrus; like lime or
lemon. Gin & tonic would work (with a little lime in it).
bp
On 1/29/2020 10:13 AM, Steve Jones
wrote:
does it have to be water, or would something like a
does it have to be water, or would something like a bloody mary work?
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:56 AM wrote:
> Your is a much better test than trying to first suck water through it like
> a straw, which has been done…..and then proven to sustain a PRESSURE test
> by trying to blow bubbles on
The problem with gain at those frequencies is going to be the maximum
permissible exposure power levels for uncontrolled public spaces. Handsets with
a lot of gain near the eyes will exceed those power levels in short order.
Nobody seems to be talking about that, antenna height needs to be
Got a question from an elected official type about why bids have been slow to
come in for CAF-II, and also looking at RDOF and the satellite "lock up”. I’m
sure there are some opinions here, any you wish to relate?
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> The nice thing about this method is that it's all passive components.
>
> I might still rather do the switch at top with PoE in+out and VLAN per SM.
> Without actually adding everything up I'd wager that the cost was about the
> sameor comparable at least. The operational difference is
Your is a much better test than trying to first suck water through it like a
straw, which has been done…..and then proven to sustain a PRESSURE test by
trying to blow bubbles on both ends… we are very serious about our technology.
From: AF On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent:
That's because the sea monkeys all escaped when you took it out of the
jacket.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:43 AM Adam Moffett wrote:
> That sounds like a much better test than mine. All I did was extract a
> piece of the tape from the cable and set it in a glass with water in it. I
> was
We used that once on a tower site. When water got into it, it created
very confusing symptoms. We replaced it with BBDGE. I don't remember
what brand the water-blocking tape was. Using the BBDGE, we occasionally
get some of the gel leaking out at the bottom, but it doesn't cause any
problems
It works at the quantum level and will not do its magic if it is observed.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:42 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
That sounds like a much better test than mine. All I did was extract a piece
of the
That sounds like a much better test than mine. All I did was extract a
piece of the tape from the cable and set it in a glass with water in
it. I was expecting to see some visible swelling, but I couldn't see any.
On 1/29/2020 12:34 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
Same. We attached a funnel full
No one is allowed to comment at AFMUG if its not serious. this is serious
business here
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:35 AM Adam Moffett wrote:
> I'm not sure whether you're serious.
>
>
> On 1/29/2020 12:32 PM, g...@shireeninc.com wrote:
> > You have to be hanging from a tower and connected to a
I'm not sure whether you're serious.
On 1/29/2020 12:32 PM, g...@shireeninc.com wrote:
You have to be hanging from a tower and connected to a network for it work
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Same. We attached a funnel full of water to the end of a 2ft chuck of
DC-1042. Left it for 24 hours expecting water to drip out the bottom. Never
did. We started using it exclusively on our towers for the last 2 years.
Not a single issue.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:29 AM Adam Moffett wrote:
> I
You have to be hanging from a tower and connected to a network for it work
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
I remember dropping a chunk of that tape
I remember dropping a chunk of that tape into a glass of water and
waiting for something to happen. Maybe I didn't wait long enough, but
nothing happened.
On 1/29/2020 11:59 AM, g...@shireeninc.com wrote:
The chemical reaction is pretty simple
When chemical compound of 2 Hydrogen and 1
Better watch the radiation, else you may have large green unhappy sea monkeys
busting out of the side of the jacket.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:05 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
"(Non Caustic, Non-Woven,
[image: ShireenSeaMonkey.jpg]
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:07 AM wrote:
> You have a 50/50 chance of being correct.
>
> As you risk your business, that would be a risk to Shireen, Inc. also.
>
> Other than suggesting: Cat6 up towers over 100’, move to fiber, or use
> hybrid cables. I think your
I got a book coming out… you will have wait.
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 12:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
"(Non Caustic, Non-Woven, Super Swelling Polyester
Bonding Material*) better
You have a 50/50 chance of being correct.
As you risk your business, that would be a risk to Shireen, Inc. also.
Other than suggesting: Cat6 up towers over 100’, move to fiber, or use hybrid
cables. I think your risk of regret is low.
I have also answered your copper damaging concern
"(Non Caustic, Non-Woven, Super Swelling Polyester
Bonding Material*) better known as Sea Monkeys"
I told you guys, and greg has verified it. I knew it. Cables full of sea
monkeys out there. fat little water filled sea monkeys, pooping on our
pairs getting exposed to 5G radiation. this is how we
The chemical reaction is pretty simple
When chemical compound of 2 Hydrogen and 1 Oxygen atoms are present and
come in contact to our (Non Caustic, Non-Woven, Super Swelling Polyester
Bonding Material*) better known as "No-conductive water blocking tape"
The following parametric occurs:
https://www.racksolutions.com/cage-nut-tool.html
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:18 AM Adam Moffett wrote:
> Yeah, I used to hate cage nuts, but when you get to a site with a bag full
> of the wrong screws you start to wonder if you shouldn't have used cage
> nuts.
>
> In other news.what tool for
Very flat pancake pattern with that much gain in an omni.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 8:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide Makes a Comeback in 5G—for Antennas | Electronic
Design
They said about 12 dBi gain from that omni which
Don’t knock technology, I have a rock that’s a therapy animal.
From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 10:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
Its got embedded sea monkey eggs, when they get wet they
In our experience, any antenna placed indoors will suck bronto. We tried
several iterations, and even just the roof attenuated the signal too much.
We had a small yagi-type antenna for a while, but the wind just ripped
it apart. The last antenna we got was a Winegard "FlatWave Air
The nice thing about this method is that it's all passive components.
I might still rather do the switch at top with PoE in+out and VLAN per
SM. Without actually adding everything up I'd wager that the cost was
about the sameor comparable at least. The operational difference is
in
They said about 12 dBi gain from that omni which is pretty impressive for
an omni. I guess if you have enough of them, it won't matter too much. I'm
guessing these go with little pico-pops in an indoor type environment.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:28 AM wrote:
> The one on the right looks like a
I have been in a number of homes where the original wiring
install used one cat5 cable to feed two ports. False economy in my
mind, but they all functioned as "normal" cat5 at 100BaseT. I
think the number of twists is primarily to suppress cross talk.
bp
Id like a combined electric/water test to run when some of our customers
are in the shower
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:25 AM Adam Moffett wrote:
> 240v x 200A = 48KVA Yet I see a lot of 15KVA transformers out there.
>
> I think the electric "speed test" would set a lot of transformers on
> fire.
The one on the right looks like a dielectrically loaded V pol slot antenna.
(On slots, the slot direction is opposite the polarization). Similar to a
collinear coax design.
Narrow V pattern, low gain, mm waves, people moving around with super low gain
antennas in their phones. Am I the
Its got embedded sea monkey eggs, when they get wet they come alive and
drink the water
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:57 AM Matt wrote:
> So how does dry tape work anyway? I assumed it had some dry powder
> type glue in it and when exposed to water absorbed and cured blocking
> further passage of
240v x 200A = 48KVA Yet I see a lot of 15KVA transformers out there.
I think the electric "speed test" would set a lot of transformers on
fire. At least they'll know they got what they paid for.
On 1/28/2020 9:19 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
You can say and publish 'Up-to' all you want. All the
Yeah, I used to hate cage nuts, but when you get to a site with a bag
full of the wrong screws you start to wonder if you shouldn't have used
cage nuts.
In other news.what tool for cage nuts? Have I been doing it the
hard way?
On 1/28/2020 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
New stuff I try
Using the FCC tool, https://www.fcc.gov/media/engineering/dtvmaps it
looks like all my stations are in UHF, except for one that is 'Hi-V'.
RF Channel range is from channel 12-35.
All the transmitters I need are within 3 degrees, coming off either
Hancock or Willis in Downtown Chicago. Half
Very cool. The antennas I made for my wisp years ago were all slotted wave
guides and 1 horn. Easy to make, simple materials, little to nothing to
fail. These are obviously more advanced combining, those with active
components, and other techniques, but it's cool to see it.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020
So how does dry tape work anyway? I assumed it had some dry powder
type glue in it and when exposed to water absorbed and cured blocking
further passage of water? But not at all sure?
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we started using this apex 9 stuff on residential, I think its shireen
rebranded, i dont know. We have recently started taking the risk of using
it on POPs instead of the BBDGE simply for cost savings, we will probably
come to regret it when we are pulling it all out and putting BBDGE back in
like
If I can assist anyone with any concerns, please feel free to ask
g...@shireeninc.com
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:08 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
> This is a little off
> This is a little off the subject but more to do with water migration.
>
> Decades of working with coaxial cable on towers has taught me that a small
> cut out of the jacket at the bottom of a drop loop before entering a shelter
> or cabinet goes a long way to preventing water migration into
We got the BravePro brand rather than the EZ-Trencher as it was available
locally and less expensive. Seems to be about the same kind of equipment.
It was $2000.
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200720688_200720688
Regards,
David Coudron
From: AF On Behalf Of Steven
As he mentioned below, depth is a consideration on the ES-Trencher. From our
experience, the EZ-Trencher works well for Ethernet drops that only need to be
buried an inch or two beneath the surface. Also, they work well for small
diameter cable/wire, but wouldn’t work for conduit if you were
Looks good for a portable installer trencher for ethernet... any idea how much
these cost?
Will need to look for something else for fiber though.
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Network Operations Manager
WaveDirect Telecommunications
http://www.wavedirect.net
(519)737-WAVE (9283)
From: "David
Haven't seen them. This is why I'm asking. We've always done this with a shovel
but since we are now getting into fiber we'll need some of these.
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From: "Timothy
Wineguard and Channel Master are the good name brands to go with. As chuck
mentioned there are very few channels on the lowest part of the VHF band
(channels 1-6) and a lot of that reason is because they required a really
big cutback in power over using the higher channels when they transitioned
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