Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

Micronet is doing it. I got the PCNs for review this afternoon and sent them this question and a couple more late today. I don’t know what they will say Monday, I was looking for some info from the folks here to be ready. They have never suggested bucking before, they have always been able

[AFMUG] School only wifi hotspots

Our state closed all schools I don't know a ton about the elearning for grade school and high school. But is like to talk the boss into dropping wifi hotspots where we can for public access. I just don't want it abused. Our school districts here are having students come in monday for elearning inst

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

Who do you have doing the engineering On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 8:06 PM Tim Hardy wrote: > If there’s double the bandwidth or more in frequency separation between > T-R at the bucking site you should be okay. It will just be difficult to > add frequencies / new paths at that site in the future. Se

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

If there’s double the bandwidth or more in frequency separation between T-R at the bucking site you should be okay. It will just be difficult to add frequencies / new paths at that site in the future. Send me the path data and I’ll take a quick look. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 9:00 PM Ken Hohhof w

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

I realize we forced them into this situation by wanting new links involving 2 sites where we already have 11 GHz. One of the sites is a water tank where it might be possible to put the tank between the 2 dishes, but that is not the bucking site. That site is actually I think a Rohn 45 and t

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

For FDD systems that require a minimum frequency separation between Transmitters and receivers, one should always follow a standard high/low frequency plan. In fact for efficient use of the band for all parties, the high/low plan should be followed religiously. Violating the established high/

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

The channel pairs are predefined On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 7:31 PM Colin Stanners wrote: > To my knowledge the radios and dishes have enough isolation that H/L match > at a site is not necessary unless you're almost pointing in the > same direction with those dishes (or have a TX frequency at one si

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

The radios certainly don’t have any isolation from this type of interference, so what you’re relying on is totally on the antennas - there’s not much FSL on these and I wouldn’t bet my life on a 2’ Category B to provide the kind of close-coupling loss needed on a co-located system. AT&T and MCI

Re: [AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

To my knowledge the radios and dishes have enough isolation that H/L match at a site is not necessary unless you're almost pointing in the same direction with those dishes (or have a TX frequency at one site overlapping a RX) . The opposite polarity increases the isolation so you have even less wor

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Heard a rumor today Trump had a 2 week quarantine in his press conference. Didn't happenbut could he even do that? If it happened how would that even work? They did announce schools are closing here but not until Wednesday at 5 p.m. to give everyone time to prepare for child care. Du

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

That is why they removed full auto after the M16A1 because they found after three rounds you were no longer accurate (a bi-pod or tri-pod mounted machine gun is a different engagement strategy). One shot, one kill, ready to die but never will :) photograph Daniel White Co-Founder & Managing

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

You guys did it all wrong.  Be a POG... sit in the rear with the beer. Only shot the M249 in combat training after boot and didn't get to shoot the ma deuce because all of the ammo was over in Iraq (I was going through boot camp as we invaded Iraq the second time). Okay I wasn't really happy with

[AFMUG] licensed link high/low question

I am having some 11 GHz links coordinated and the draft PCNs they sent me have one site high on one link and low on the other link. They are however different sub bands, and one is HPOL and the other is VPOL. Does this make it OK? I could probably do one of the links in 18 GHz. I had interna

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

You take your non lethal and put it in a dream bucket and fill it with fish guts. We have no use for non lethal things, merca. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 5:11 PM Mitch Koep wrote: > https://www.wired.com/2007/06/robo-tasers-for/ > > incase non lethal is an idea lol > On 3/13/2020 4:46 PM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Can I place them facing large fire ant mounds? On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 5:11 PM Mitch Koep wrote: > https://www.wired.com/2007/06/robo-tasers-for/ > > incase non lethal is an idea lol > On 3/13/2020 4:46 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Claymores can be very effective. > > > bp > > > > On 3/13/2020 2:

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

https://www.wired.com/2007/06/robo-tasers-for/ incase non lethal is an idea lol On 3/13/2020 4:46 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Claymores can be very effective. bp On 3/13/2020 2:16 PM, Robert wrote: I would have taken you for an electrified fence kinda guy... On 3/13/20 12:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.c

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Claymores can be very effective. bp On 3/13/2020 2:16 PM, Robert wrote: I would have taken you for an electrified fence kinda guy... On 3/13/20 12:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Years ago with the last wife, she took me by a hanger of a friend of hers on the Scottsdale airport.   That guy had at least a case of everything.   When he opened a particular crate and it was full of cases of LARs I just shook my head.   He was a foreign national and apparently had a ligit we

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

solar powered electrified fence On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 4:17 PM Robert wrote: > I would have taken you for an electrified fence kinda guy... > > On 3/13/20 12:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > I have a nice balcony connecting my BR to my office at home. Lots of room > for a 50 cal tripod mounte

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I would have taken you for an electrified fence kinda guy... On 3/13/20 12:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have a nice balcony connecting my BR to my office at home.  Lots of room for a 50 cal tripod mounted M2 looking out the driveway. At least that would take care of my Southern exposure. Land

Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

Ohdoes that work?  Cool idea. On 3/13/2020 5:04 PM, Shayne Lebrun wrote: Turn on web proxy on the Mikrotik, set your browser's proxy address to the mikrotik, and web in. Turn off proxy on mikrotik when done. -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

Turn on web proxy on the Mikrotik, set your browser's proxy address to the mikrotik, and web in. Turn off proxy on mikrotik when done. -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 1:21 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users G

Re: [AFMUG] FTP Server Testing

Does it have to be FTP? I've done 4 wget -O /dev/null at this site and gotten gig: https://www.thinkbroadband.com/download Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 1:57 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Long story short, one o

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

That's a great way of social distancing... On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 1:55 PM James Howard wrote: > Just got back from weekly trip to Costco for groceries. From the looks of > it you’d need to execute at least half the people coming out of there…… > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

My sisters brother (dads ex wife) got in a pickle some time back for having actual claymores set up in his yard. I dont know how he got them, or how he avoided prison. That guy was the epitome of RWNJ. he ditched to germany and lives off grid now as far as anybody knows. I wouldnt be surprised if y

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I have a nice balcony connecting my BR to my office at home. Lots of room for a 50 cal tripod mounted M2 looking out the driveway. At least that would take care of my Southern exposure. Land mines will get the rest. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Mi

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Just got back from weekly trip to Costco for groceries. From the looks of it you'd need to execute at least half the people coming out of there.. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Su

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

The AR wasnt the weapon of choice. Prone to mechanical issues. But price was right, and it was the only semiauto rifle in stock, in my price range. I would have preferred the henry repeater if this were a pleasure purchase. AR is a hyped up weapon, much like this plague. And I dont want a semi auto

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I think it falls more under prepping than hoarding at that point. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM Robert wrote: > If you bought it before the run and it was super cheap from the right > place online in December and availability was trivial, was it still > hoarding? > > On 3/13/20 7:25 AM, Seth M

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Steve Martin proposed years ago that the solution to traffic congestion was death penalty for parking violations. bp On 3/13/2020 10:53 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: I'll second this. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:52

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I smell a reality TV show. From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica I'll second this. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

If you bought it before the run and it was super cheap from the right place online in December and availability was trivial, was it still hoarding? On 3/13/20 7:25 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 3/13/20 6:33 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: And yes, stocking up on ammunition is moronic behavior.  Spend t

[AFMUG] FTP Server Testing

Long story short, one of my customers has a buddy with 'FIBER TO HIS HOUSE!!' (supposedly the 2G Comcast Fiber offering) and he's trying to run his office backups to his buddy's house. He's in one of our directly connected buildings, so he should have good performance, but the transfer is onl

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I'll second this. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I propose executing hoarders on site. No questions asked. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I propose executing hoarders on site. No questions asked. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP Not serious. - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, Marc

Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

There are a lot of options that could get me to the SM so I could bring up HTTP. But I wanted to just do a quick check via Telnet without having to do a bunch of network reconfiguration for an SM that either died, or got mis-aligned. It sounds like that's not actually possible. On 3/13/2020

Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

I test/provision 450s through a Mikrotik using NAT rules to access the radio's 169.254.1.1 address via the tik's IP on my LAN. Just add a 169.254.0.0/16 address to the radio interface, setup a dstnat rule pointing port 80 to 169.254.1.1, and a masquerade rule on the radio's interface. On Fri, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

No, the SM isn't associated, and I'm only able to telnet to it from the Mikrotik that it's plugged into which I still have access to via a different path. So without setting up a tunnel, I can't get HTTP to it without going on site. On 3/13/2020 12:14 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: You can't even get

Re: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

You can't even get to the GUI via the AP web proxy? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 11:52 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax I have a 450SM that because of some network reasons, I can only telnet to. Is there a

[AFMUG] 450SM command line syntax

I have a 450SM that because of some network reasons, I can only telnet to. Is there a way to run an APEval from the command line and/or Change the color code? I didn't see it listed in the 'help' option. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

That’s a classic. There is another one that I cannot remember the name of, like to watch it again. Seems like it was perhaps Indian, restaurant getting extorted by the local indian mob. In the end I think they feed the mobster to a wedding party. Love to watch that one again if someone can t

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

We have kept a bottle of Purell in our trucks for years now. Turns out alcohol is great for getting urushiol off your hands if you are working around poison oak (or poison ivy). bp On 3/13/2020 9:18 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yep, I actually only have soap (actually Dial Complete Foaming Hand So

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Time to rent the movie Eating Raoul. From: AF On Behalf Of castarritt . Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 11:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Strategic lipid reserves are a thing, just make sure you have enough ammo that your reserves wo

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Yep, I actually only have soap (actually Dial Complete Foaming Hand Soap which I suspect is not "soap" at all), and have never used any Purell type stuff. But I wouldn't mind having a bottle of alcohol based hand sanitizer for when I'm on the road. And we may need masks, gloves and hand sanitizer

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Strategic lipid reserves are a thing, just make sure you have enough ammo that your reserves won't go to someone else. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 11:08 AM wrote: > I can live off my body fat for much longer than that. > > -Original Message- > From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Yeah personally carrying about 50 pounds of rations around at all times.  Might be good for me to run out of food. On 3/13/2020 12:08 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I can live off my body fat for much longer than that. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 9:25

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I can live off my body fat for much longer than that. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 9:25 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Trying to put this in the best light, maybe people are preparing for 2+ w

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I have one box for my 22 special. Not sure it even works. The ammo is probably 30 years old. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 8:49 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica In my experience, firing a weapon in full auto wastes about 8 or 9 out of 10

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Inept

That is completely out of the realm of reality. bp On 3/13/2020 8:38 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Now he is blaming Obamadamn, grow some balls and own upyou messed up big timeleave the politics out of it and listen to t

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

As an M1A1 crewman I remember we carried 11400 of 7.62 for the loaders m240b and the gunners coax used the majority and 900 rounds of .50cal for the M2. We shared an M16A1 with about 200 rounds and each carried 35 rounds of .45 for our 1911s we had 52rounds of 120mm rounds of Sabot and mixed He

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Inept

Now he is blaming Obamadamn, grow some balls and own upyou messed up big timeleave the politics out of it and listen to the scientists and medical expertsque pinchi mamadas.. On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 6:42 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Covfefe > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 8:34 PM Jaime Solorz

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Soap and water actually works better than the sanitizer. The sanitizer is really handy if you are on the road or something, but soap and water is the best. bp On 3/13/2020 8:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Trying to put this in the best light, maybe people are preparing for 2+ weeks of home quaran

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

+1000 my acreage as well On 3/13/2020 9:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Where we live, it only takes one round to take down a deer. That's good for a while. bp On 3/13/2020 6:33 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Depends on the rounds.  For awhile I was stuck with an M249 (I was aviation so that was an

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Trying to put this in the best light, maybe people are preparing for 2+ weeks of home quarantine. But I would run out of food before I ran out of toilet paper. I would like to think that society isn't going to break down to the point where I couldn't get Amazon to deliver a box of pasta and ca

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Where we live, it only takes one round to take down a deer. That's good for a while. bp On 3/13/2020 6:33 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Depends on the rounds.  For awhile I was stuck with an M249 (I was aviation so that was an ex

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

In my experience, firing a weapon in full auto wastes about 8 or 9 out of 10 shots. If you're intent on killing something, semi auto wins every time with a minimum of waste. I guess I'm not prepper enough, but if I have 3 boxes of ammo, that's on the high side

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Inept

hamberders bp On 3/13/2020 5:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Covfefe On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 8:34 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: Inept  --

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

On 3/13/20 6:33 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: And yes, stocking up on ammunition is moronic behavior.  Spend the money on some extra dry goods you could share with your neighbors in the event that they need help.  WWJD That requires rational thought. The people that think the best response to all

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

This... This is why I love you guys. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: "AnimalFar

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Depends on the rounds. For awhile I was stuck with an M249 (I was aviation so that was an extra crap assignment vs a 9 mil or M16) and we carried 800 rounds. Same 5.56 as an M16, just on a belt in a cartridge. And yes, stocking up on ammunition is moronic behavior. Spend the money on some extra

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Well you don't need any other supplies if you have enough ammo. If you run out of something you just go shoot your neighbor and take his stuff.  Ten thousand rounds /sounds/ like a lot, but it's not when you have 300,000,000 neighbors. On 3/13/2020 8:57 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I wonder, do

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I wonder, does buying an AR count as moronic behavior? I get the more ammo thing, 10,000 rounds seems a bit much but to each his own. Don't get me wrong, I have a few guns around and maybe a couple thousand rounds. I just think back to when I was a machine gunner in the Marine Corps. We had a 3 ma

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Inept

Covfefe On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 8:34 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Inept > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com