Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep... On Thu, May 21, 2020, 8:27 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > She was literally hot. > > > > *Matty : *My temperature > runs a couple of degrees high, around a hundred. I don't mind. It's the > engine or something. > > *Ned

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
She was literally hot. Matty : My temperature runs a couple of degrees high, around a hundred. I don't mind. It's the engine or something. Ned : Maybe you need a tune up.

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
She was hot in that movie On Thu, May 21, 2020, 5:38 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > So you would turn away the Kathleen Turner character from the movie Body > Heat? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2020 5:59 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
So you would turn away the Kathleen Turner character from the movie Body Heat? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 5:59 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever There is not an easy fix for that. bp On

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
Absolutely, if you bullet liver, secondary, and tertiary organs check out and you're asymptomatic you should get a pass, to the decontamination bath. On Thu, May 21, 2020, 5:27 PM Robert wrote: > And all the asymptomatics get a pass? > > On 5/21/20 1:48 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I heard on one

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Bill Prince
There is not an easy fix for that. bp On 5/21/2020 3:26 PM, Robert wrote: And all the asymptomatics get a pass?  On 5/21/20 1:48 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I heard on one of the podcasts I listen to

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread chuck
Until we can figure out a solution for that... yes. From: Robert Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:26 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever And all the asymptomatics get a pass? On 5/21/20 1:48 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I heard on one of

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread chuck
I would think I would like a product where the employee walks in, looks at the camera. It recognizes the employee, takes the temperature. Logs it, Perhaps puts it on a screen for all to see and then gives a green light or red light. Or a klaxon horn or a trap door opening etc. But the facial

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Robert
And all the asymptomatics get a pass? On 5/21/20 1:48 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I heard on one of the podcasts I listen to that the generic thermal cameras are not useful for fever screening. Better to just use a non-touch forehead (AKA temporal) thermometer. bp On 5/21/2020 1:12 PM, Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Northwestern University has a famous rock. "The Rock" No, not Dwayne Johnson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdQPn86BfCE =youtu.be Wikipedia says they moved the Northwestern rock and broke it.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread James Howard
Yeah, but does it leak? If not he deserves a pat on the back for not violating his union rules by doing jobs outside of his classification. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 4:32 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: You

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread James Howard
In the interest of accuracy and sound scientific methods, best to stick 3 meat thermometers into different organs. Too much chance of inconsistent results if you're checking subjects with liver failure. A three pronged test will definitely give better results. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/21/20 1:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Still scratching my head.. Guy was hired to do pipes, not move rocks. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Bill Prince
I've moved rocks that big. I'm guessing that one is in the 700-800 lb range. bp On 5/21/2020 2:06 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: The only thing I can think of is the rock must be like an iceberg. Much bigger than it looks.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Boss said “I don’t care what you do...leave that rock alone!” Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On May 21, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > >  > The only thing I can think of is the rock must be like an iceberg. Much > bigger

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
sacred stone On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 4:07 PM Sam Lambie wrote: > The only thing I can think of is the rock must be like an iceberg. Much > bigger than it looks. > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:55 PM Bill Prince wrote: > >> This falls under the heading: "When the only tool you have is a hammer,

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
not worth the risk, best to just shoot everybody as they come in, stick a meat thermometer in their liver. We need accurate results to stop the spread On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:48 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I heard on one of the podcasts I listen to that the generic thermal > cameras are not

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Sam Lambie
The only thing I can think of is the rock must be like an iceberg. Much bigger than it looks. On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 2:55 PM Bill Prince wrote: > This falls under the heading: "When the only tool you have is a hammer, > all your problems look like nails." > > Rephrasing slightly: > > "When all

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Well Steve's solution is succinct and efficient. I tested it and it was ok...I am not a good candidate because my temp ranges in 95.6 to 96.8 range...the non contact worked better but they are thinking of using this where they process detainees in a line. Right now the non contact handheld

Re: [AFMUG] OT: You had one job

2020-05-21 Thread Bill Prince
This falls under the heading: "When the only tool you have is a hammer, all your problems look like nails." Rephrasing slightly: "When all you have is pipe and pipe fittings, all your problems look like plumbing." bp On 5/21/2020 1:49 PM, Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Bill Prince
I heard on one of the podcasts I listen to that the generic thermal cameras are not useful for fever screening. Better to just use a non-touch forehead (AKA temporal) thermometer. bp On 5/21/2020 1:12 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread James Howard
Are you implying that being a hothead is a disease? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 3:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever there was an article, i think in

Re: [AFMUG] Thermal camera for screening folks with fever

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
there was an article, i think in ARS going over a lot of the different specific hardware china was using. I recommend a temperature guided targeting system, .45 or better to ensure the disease is stopped in in its track On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 3:13 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > We are looking into

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Steven Kenney
Or you could wear one of these and make yourself look like anyone.. I'd go as Ahhnold. https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00N3FV7XS/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_G4TXEb0PVYT40 -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283)

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Steven Kenney
I considered getting a chromakey background so I could put anywhere I wanted in the background. Like Hawaii or somewhere on a beach and make people jealous. Instead I just hung a Red Wing championship banner to antagonize all the Maple Leaf fans. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
"ru;les" On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:19 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I could be completely wrong on this but I don’t think that is allowed per > the rules for the band. > > Mark > > On May 21, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I also wonder if they can use CBRS in LAA mode, where it is

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread chuck
Only on negative ground positive return pulse width modulated power system. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 12:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx So rule of thumb is Tx to Rx unless the designer was dumb? On 5/21/2020 2:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: So

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
geek On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chuck Macenski wrote: > Isn't history fun. As found on the Internet: > > DTE vs. DCE > > This is one of the most misunderstood areas of RS-232. DTE stands for Data > Terminal Equipment, and DCE stands for Data Communications Equipment. DTE > is typically

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Chuck Macenski
Isn't history fun. As found on the Internet: DTE vs. DCE This is one of the most misunderstood areas of RS-232. DTE stands for Data Terminal Equipment, and DCE stands for Data Communications Equipment. DTE is typically either a dumb terminal or the serial port on a computer/workstation. DCE is

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
that sounds like a guy who does his RJ45 568-F On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:11 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > So rule of thumb is Tx to Rx unless the designer was dumb? > > > > On 5/21/2020 2:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > So dumb... > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I could be completely wrong on this but I don’t think that is allowed per the rules for the band. Mark > On May 21, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I also wonder if they can use CBRS in LAA mode, where it is essentially > downstream only and they don’t care if their basestation sees

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
I also wonder if they can use CBRS in LAA mode, where it is essentially downstream only and they don’t care if their basestation sees a bunch of interference from you. From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 11:47 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc:

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Adam Moffett
So rule of thumb is Tx to Rx unless the designer was dumb? On 5/21/2020 2:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: So dumb... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Mike Hammett
So dumb... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 1:06:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx Harris Stratex microwave comes

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Harris Stratex microwave comes to mind.  The T3 connection to the Cisco needed to be Tx to Tx. And Rx to Rx. On 5/21/2020 2:02 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Ive never seen a tx port wanting the remote side to do the Tx, do you have any reference devices? On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:48 PM Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
Ive never seen a tx port wanting the remote side to do the Tx, do you have any reference devices? On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:48 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Sometimes when a port is labeled "Tx" they mean "this port transmits". > > Sometimes when a port is labeled "Tx" they mean "connect the

[AFMUG] Tx/Rx

2020-05-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Sometimes when a port is labeled "Tx" they mean "this port transmits". Sometimes when a port is labeled "Tx" they mean "connect the transmit from your other device here". So sometimes you have equipment wanting cabling from Tx to Tx, and other times you want Tx to Rx.  Is there some standard

Re: [AFMUG] DENT - upcoming NOS options

2020-05-21 Thread Mike Hammett
Cumulus is one of the companies participating, so I assume it's an all boats rise scenario. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jared Brown" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May

Re: [AFMUG] DENT - upcoming NOS options

2020-05-21 Thread Jared Brown
I'm afraid that slide does not clear up the matter at all :) You could use that same generic slide for any white box NOS. I really hope somebody is putting some thought into why a new NOS is needed and manages to articulate it. Jared > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 > From: "Harold Bledsoe"

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Steve Jones
This is why I am slow rolling CBRS, seeing what happens On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 11:47 AM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > Hmm, This is bad news.. half the band already unusable for you, and I’m > guessing cell networks CBRS deployments are just starting. My high level > towers can see hundreds of

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
Hmm, This is bad news.. half the band already unusable for you, and I’m guessing cell networks CBRS deployments are just starting. My high level towers can see hundreds of cell sites. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] DENT - upcoming NOS options

2020-05-21 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Attached is a high level (I agree the website is lacking). Let me know if you want the whole deck and I can send it. -Hal On 5/21/20, 10:30 AM, "AF on behalf of Jared Brown" wrote: How does this differ from any of the other NOSes floating around? It's not like the website actually tells

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Isn’t there a Zoom filter for that? I mean, it can change the background and “touch up my appearance”, why not add clothes? From: AF On Behalf Of Steven Kenney Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 10:34 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out Always! These whole zoom meetings thing

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread James Howard
Only if it’s comfortable underwear, otherwise skip it. Everybody says that Zoom meetings only get them from the neck up so it doesn’t matter what’s going on below that. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 9:02 AM To: 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Steven Kenney
Always! These whole zoom meetings thing has made me wear more clothing at home than I ever have before. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Bill Prince" To: "af" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] DENT - upcoming NOS options

2020-05-21 Thread Jared Brown
How does this differ from any of the other NOSes floating around? It's not like the website actually tells you... Jared       Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 From: "Harold Bledsoe" To: "AF@af.afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] DENT - upcoming NOS options Hi guys,   I just wanted to make everyone

Re: [AFMUG] 100 mbps line extender

2020-05-21 Thread chuck
It looks like a decent path. Shooting across a bit of a depression in the valley. The sales guy was not sure, as this is a temp circuit until the fiber gets there. He was like :”ummm maybe 50 mbps?”. So I say 100 to be on the safe side. I don’t have any wireless gear kicking around. So

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Matt Corcoran
From: AF on behalf of Mark Radabaugh Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 11:12 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now? It will be interesting to see what happens. There has been a lot of discussion within

Re: [AFMUG] 100 mbps line extender

2020-05-21 Thread Josh Luthman
First off I'm going to assume you know the 4 mile shot is possible - LOS and all that. Second if you have Rockets, what kind of antennas? I'd do 2' at 4 miles myself. Third, what kind of capacity? The older rockets are about 4 bits/hz so if you do 40 MHz you can get maybe ~150 megs aggregate.

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
It will be interesting to see what happens. There has been a lot of discussion within WinnForum over coordination in GAA, and there is little consensus even in WinnForum over how GAA should be managed. Lots of camps. Some of the SAS operators feel they are responsible for efficient use

[AFMUG] 100 mbps line extender

2020-05-21 Thread chuck
I have a commercial customer 4 miles beyond the end of fiber. I have zero wireless gear left kicking around. Would a pair of Rockets still be a good option?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Yes.  Zoom meetings are always from the neck up. On 5/21/2020 10:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Underwear is the new business casual? *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2020 8:51 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out +1

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Bill Prince
Going commando to battle your router woes? bp On 5/21/2020 5:43 AM, Steven Kenney wrote: Too many benefits to virtualizing your routing infrastructure to list here.   Its where things are going in the future. 

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Underwear is the new business casual? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 8:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out +1 while in underwear Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Josh Luthman
+1 while in underwear Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 8:44 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Too many benefits to virtualizing your routing infrastructure to list > here. Its where things are going in the future.

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Personally I backup every VM on everything. I have an "office mikrotik" for various things (tools, vpn, etc), but none of my traffic is going through a VM/CHR. The snapshot is more collateral than anything, rather than specify a list of targets. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread dave
Well lets just say that SNR and Signal levels will double or even triple depending what the sub had before conversion. Of course to get the extra power and higher capacity you will end up moving to 20 and 30mhz or 40mhz depending on your design. We have doubled and tripled capacity on our

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-05-21 Thread dave
Well SNR goes  to crap on every sub where you and the celco overlap. So none of the spectrum they are on can be used. Which is aproximately 3550-3640 we found 2 panels facing our direction side by side look like using 40mhz x2 On 5/20/20 1:12 PM, Peter Kranz via AF wrote: Hi Dave, can you

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-21 Thread Steven Kenney
Too many benefits to virtualizing your routing infrastructure to list here. Its where things are going in the future. For me, its centralized management, backups, redundancy, flexibility. Also if you need more horsepower than a 1072 you can scale what you need pretty fast. You can clone or

[AFMUG] DENT - upcoming NOS options

2020-05-21 Thread Harold Bledsoe
Hi guys, I just wanted to make everyone aware of a newish effort to bring some more (and hopefully better) options to our market for network operation systems. If you are familiar with the OCP, you can think of this as OCP focused more on our segment. The effort is called DENT and you can