Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nope . This guy did it . On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 2:46 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I think the more plausible explanation is that Zuckerberg was in a bar > with some guys he was trying to impress saying something like 'I do SO run > Facebook' and then whips out his phone and instead of deleting their >

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Ping FB.com -t Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Robert wrote: > >  Much more information, _Except the Command_ LOL > > https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/ > >> On 10/5/21 9:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> I see it differently. In the

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Robert
Much more information,   _Except the Command_   LOL https://engineering.fb.com/2021/10/05/networking-traffic/outage-details/ On 10/5/21 9:17 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I see it differently. In the beginning cloudflare thought something was wrong with their systems. It doesn't explain what

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Steve Jones
Probably better luck finding a 10mm wrench On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 4:26 PM Nate Burke wrote: > No, they just had to find a laptop that had a serial port on it. They > probably only are issued company tablets. > > On 10/5/2021 4:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Id like to think some lowly janitor was

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Nate Burke
No, they just had to find a laptop that had a serial port on it. They probably only are issued company tablets. On 10/5/2021 4:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Id like to think some lowly janitor was picked up from his vacation by a helicopter right from his john boat on the lake, whisked to an

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Steve Jones
Id like to think some lowly janitor was picked up from his vacation by a helicopter right from his john boat on the lake, whisked to an airport and loaded onto a leer jet to california, then police escorted to FB HQ to pull out his big ol key ring and open the door On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 4:12 PM

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Probably more like some kind of automation with a bug in it. I got a kick out of FB actually saying that this caused some of their people to be physically locked out of data center equipment they needed to access to fix it. I don’t think I would have ever admitted that. From: Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Nate Burke
I think the more plausible explanation is that Zuckerberg was in a bar with some guys he was trying to impress saying something like 'I do SO run Facebook' and then whips out his phone and instead of deleting their profile, he presses the 'delete all' button by accident. I've been at some

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If 30 minutes would have been long enough. I wonder how long it really takes for BGP changes to propagate. Having contracted for FB before, let me tell you their management style is horrible. Conference calls to plan conference calls. I got my ass chewed for being honest on a call. Can’t

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Steve Jones
ill bet whatever their process was, its not what it is and delayed commits/fallbacks are instituted forthwith. Not by the guy who committed this set of changes though, hes at the bottom of a river now On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 12:13 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > I wonder if they did a "commit

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
I wonder if they did a "commit confirmed 30”? If not, would that have avoided the whole thing? > On Oct 5, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > "an engineer put in a config change on a BGP router that propagated to the > other BGP routers and cut off access" > > Sounds like

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Carl Peterson
"an engineer put in a config change on a BGP router that propagated to the other BGP routers and cut off access" Sounds like something I would do which is why I generally insist on having a remote tech physically in the building with a console cable if I don't have OOB console access when

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Robert
FB has posted that an engineer put in a config change on a BGP router that propagated to the other BGP routers and cut off access.  Sounds like it took a while to track down the config change.  I do know someone who is intimate with that group but he's not talking...   Drinking, but not

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Bill Prince
I see it differently. In the beginning cloudflare thought something was wrong with their systems. It doesn't explain what happened inside facebook, probably because only facebook knows what went wrong. That's not cloudflare's problem. We may never know what

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Robert
I really don't like that cloudflare posted this, as it doesn't do anything to tell why.  It's not a root cause, it's an effect and cloudflare looks like they are just trying to say how smart they are. On 10/5/21 8:40 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Bill Prince
https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/ bp On 10/5/2021 7:39 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Sign him up for a SNAP card. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 5, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Sign him up for a SNAP card. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > Heard the Zuch got around $6 or $7 billion trimmed from his net worth > yesterday. Now he's only worth around $121 billion. > > > > bp > > On 10/5/2021 6:52 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread Bill Prince
Heard the Zuch got around $6 or $7 billion trimmed from his net worth yesterday. Now he's only worth around $121 billion. bp On 10/5/2021 6:52 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I am very curious what it was

Re: [AFMUG] facebook outage

2021-10-05 Thread dmmoffett
I am very curious what it was that took 6 hours to figure out or undo. …..but I wouldn’t judge too harshly. When any contraption gets big and complex it’s easy to overlook one seemingly small thing. Remember this XKCD? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday,