Re: [AFMUG] Chicago Colo\Connectivity

2022-11-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I send an invoice, you send cashiers checks. No sorcery. ;-) But yeah, your first idea was spot on. I can help with that too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Wisp Tower climber pay scale

2022-11-16 Thread Craig House
I’m talking about for trained competent tower climbers who work for me. I’m legitimately trying to be fair and keep good employees. I have no desire to have untrained under qualified employees. I’m no longer a wisp owner although I do a lot of work for wisp companies as well as a lot of two-way

Re: [AFMUG] Wisp Tower climber pay scale

2022-11-16 Thread Steve Jones
Are you talking tower climber with certification working for a tower company, or just johnny with the harness at the WISP? I used to be Johnny with the harness, that was dumb. Nobody should be climbing towers without legitimate training, legitimate equipment and legitimate pay. 20-35 is what that

Re: [AFMUG] Wisp Tower climber pay scale

2022-11-16 Thread Bill Prince
Be thankful we're not in Europe. US inflation is high, but in Europe it's astronomic. bp On 11/16/2022 9:28 AM, Craig House wrote: Read the recent inflation on everything in this country what is the going ratr now for tower climbers pay. I did a Google search for the national average on

Re: [AFMUG] Wisp Tower climber pay scale

2022-11-16 Thread Tyson Burris
$25-$35 is the ballpark range here in Indiana. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131   Office # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - Mesh

[AFMUG] Wisp Tower climber pay scale

2022-11-16 Thread Craig House
Read the recent inflation on everything in this country what is the going ratr now for tower climbers pay. I did a Google search for the national average on tower climbers pay scale and it seems to be around $17-$19 an hour but that seems low to me given today’s economy and you can get a job

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Price per BTU is important. Propane is half the cost of Diesel per btu. Propane is very clean if you can use vapor. If you need it at the super cold temps you will want a liquid pickup. That will have to be filtered and then vaporized. Takes a bit of energy to start the vaporizer but once the

Re: [AFMUG] Chicago Colo\Connectivity

2022-11-16 Thread Steve Jones
can you break down how this works? like we are in central IL, do we have to find leased lines to a colo center to gan benefit or is there some internet sorcery that gets our traffic there and back On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:16 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > We're looking to bring on some

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
Regardless of maintenance and upkeep, the thing I can see right up front would be energy density. How many propane semis are there? On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 10:14 AM wrote: > I have noticed that large generators everywhere seem to all be diesel, and > it’s something I’ve often wondered about.

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread dmmoffett
I have noticed that large generators everywhere seem to all be diesel, and it’s something I’ve often wondered about. Propane can be stored for decades. Diesel breaks down, gels, and grows algae. So I’ve always gone with propane and just got the oversized tank. I can’t imagine a heater for

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
You can do something for it - heaters or maybe an additive. Keep in mind all the really big data centers are all diesel (remember when NYC went dark during the hurricane?) On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 9:14 AM wrote: > Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh >

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread dmmoffett
Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I calculated it out

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Mark Radabaugh
When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I calculated it out as a 3000 gal tank at -20F to be able to provide sufficient flow for a 125k generator. Or it needed a propane boiler to turn liquid to gas. I went with diesel :-) Mark > On Nov 15, 2022, at 11:43 PM,