I love how quick the generator started up. They waste no time when the grid
fails, do they? I would figure there would be a 10+ second delay or so to
see if the grid comes back up before it starts up.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023, 8:52 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> Wonder what caused it?
>
>
Wonder what caused it?
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From: Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 5:44 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Power excitement
Always exciting when a camera is pointing in the right direction.
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Maybe they are causing enough voltage drop to noise up your power supplies.
Have you checked the AC voltage?
From: Jan-GAMs
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 3:50 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] backup power for small tower
We are already using shielded ethernet cable. The truck is
We are already using shielded ethernet cable. The truck is parked about
40ft from the pole with two heavy guage extension cords plugged into
outlets at the base of the pole and about a 90 degree angle from the
beam direction of one radio and 180 degrees from the other radio, They
would have
if youre paying to be able to trace, that trace should be exact, no
tolerance on installation. My locator it most of the time dead on. The bug
concern is vertical. If the pipe is sitting at 48" but the trace is coiled
up to 24, some yahoo isnt gonna pothole and drill under it. Nobody gives a
shit
Most laws say 12” either side of the line is the protection zone. So +-3” is
plenty accurate. If only they were all that accurate.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire
How big of a pipe would it have to be for that to be a concern? I would
think ~3 inches of variance is within the spec of the locator.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Steve Jones
wrote:
> stand over them when theyre putting it in to make sure they dont just
> randomly toss it in the open
stand over them when theyre putting it in to make sure they dont just
randomly toss it in the open trench. you dont want it toning out at a
different depth/horizontal because it coiled up. especially if theyre doing
a wide trench excavation.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:39 AM Chuck McCown via AF
All these seem to be UF
https://www.plumbersstock.com/water-works/tracer-wire.html
From: Carl Peterson
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 10:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.
We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback
We specced safe-trace with 1800lb pullback strength for our current project
and will likely makenthat the standard for anything drilled in moving
forward. Not sure it is overkill.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> 14 gauge is rugged and will last. I think the gas
That's a good point - the 24 gauge we use is part of the fiber
insulation that has fiberglass strength members. I don't think you would
want to place insulated 24 gauge straight in the hole because it is weak.
>The question is how to ensure that section is locateable.
Yep ground rod it is. This
14 gauge is rugged and will last. I think the gas company out here uses 14
gauge. 20 gauge on up is not terribly strong. UDOT recently changed their
spec for the tracer molded into MD7 microduct from 20 gauge to 14 gauge.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 9:37 AM
To:
Almost anything will work. Obviously you want to avoid insulated steel.
Copper is fine. Even 18-20 gauge solid is fine as long as it does not get
broken. Copperweld, copper over steel is good. Just bring it to the surface
at both end. When it comes time to locate just ground one end.
The place where the line might end is a sewer line addition. I don't
expect that they'll end up digging a new line all the way to the tank,
instead I'd expect them to find the existing pipe in the middle of the
parking area and dig the new trench to that location, and add a Y of some
sort into
Don't you have some random copper laying around? Our fiber tracer wire is
24 awg. Just place the conductive wire in the same hole as the water/sewer
lines. The color is kind of pointless but I guess you could spend the
money and follow the rules *shrug*.
If the wire ends the locate ends. Why
I'm suggesting on the AC line if that's where the noise is coming from.
My guess is one of two things:
1) somehow the truck is generating rf noise. For example they have a
mobile Hotspot or signal booster or something like that. Or some other non
obvious source.
2) the truck is generating
I'm working on doing specs for a project (home) which will require burying
new water and sewer lines on the property.
I'm tired of not being able to locate these after they're buried so I plan
on having the contractor bury some tracer wire along with the plumbing.
I've learned that the best
I’ve had success with ferrites, but I got them with high impedance at the
frequency of the other guy’s transmitter, and I got ginormous ones that I could
loop the ethernet through a whole bunch of times.
Someone on this list informed me that impedance is squared by the number of
turns the
I had a 0% success rate with ferrite.
I have a 100% success rate with fiber (up the tower).
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:57 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> Agreed. And if it's on the ethernet side, just adding some ferrite
> chokes to the power line might fix
Agreed. And if it's on the ethernet side, just adding some ferrite chokes
to the power line might fix the problem. Or switching to shielded cable.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023, 7:52 AM Josh Luthman
wrote:
> Step 1 is to figure out where your packet loss is coming from. If it's
> interference on the
Step 1 is to figure out where your packet loss is coming from. If it's
interference on the RF side, changing to a DC plant is a complete waste of
time/money.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:21 AM wrote:
> Usually when people say "DC plant" they mean a rectifier. A charger +
> inverter like you
Usually when people say "DC plant" they mean a rectifier. A charger + inverter
like you proposed would probably also count as having DC power plant.
I used one of these once:
https://www.aimscorp.net/12-Volt-Pure-Sine-Inverter-Chargers/
Worked fine, but no remote management. I'm sure there
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