Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
of Diesel. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:16 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup Regardless of maintenance and upkeep, the thing I can see right up front would be energy density. How many propane semis

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
s it that makes diesel more attractive for the larger generators? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 9:23 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > You c

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread dmmoffett
t -20F? From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup When I looked at propane for a standby gen

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Josh Luthman
*Mark Radabaugh > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I > calculated it out as a 3000 gal tank at

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread dmmoffett
Wouldn’t diesel gel at -20F? From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 8:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup When I looked at propane for a standby generator at the data center I calculated it out

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-16 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> Of Sean Heskett > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-15 Thread Sean Heskett
Of * Sean Heskett > *Sent:* Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. > > > > We are at 40 north so

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-15 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
gt;> for a grid tie with a small heater on the carb that runs on grid power. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Brandon >> >> >> >> >> >> From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett >> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM &

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-15 Thread Josh Luthman
* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup > > > > In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. > > > > We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65* > > > > 40 + 23.5 = 63.5* > >

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-14 Thread lists gogebicrange . net
power. Thanks, Brandon From: AF On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. We are at 40 north so we tilt

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
at noon today. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 2:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup Yeah, don't let an installer set them for max energy over a year like they would for grid tie.Optimize

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yeah, don't let an installer set them for max energy over a year like they would for grid tie.Optimize them for the worst winter day. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 1:17 PM Bill Prince wrote: > That is close to what we used at the 37th parallel. We set our panels at > 60 degrees. That gave us close

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Bill Prince
That is close to what we used at the 37th parallel. We set our panels at 60 degrees. That gave us close to maximum sun at the winter solstice, and we still had excess energy during the summer months. The summer sun is long enough and strong enough that you don't need the panels pointed

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
: Saturday, November 12, 2022 1:43 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65* 40 + 23.5 = 63.5* At that angle when

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-12 Thread Sean Heskett
In addition to froth-pak, be sure to tilt them at [latitude] + 23.5. We are at 40 north so we tilt the panels at about 65* 40 + 23.5 = 63.5* At that angle when there’s any amount of direct sunlight it slides pretty quick. But we also have a propane generator on-site because the stars don’t

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Robert
This would be why they started making bi-facial solar panels, reflected ground illumination increases the panel output, according to some ads, as much as 20%... (YMMV) On 11/11/22 5:25 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I never discovered any solution other than the foam.  You can point a

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I powered it by co2. So carbonated beet juice. It clogged everything. Propylene glycol works good. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > Chuck had a few that he had tested, I seem to remember something about beet > juice... > >> On Friday,

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I never discovered any solution other than the foam. You can point a separate panel or array at the ground so you can catch reflected light off the ground. We discovered that by accident. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2022, at 4:01 PM, James Howard wrote: > >  > I have a vague memory

Re: [AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread Jason McKemie
Chuck had a few that he had tested, I seem to remember something about beet juice... On Friday, November 11, 2022, James Howard wrote: > I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different > kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can’t find the > thread

[AFMUG] Solar panel ice/snow buildup

2022-11-11 Thread James Howard
I have a vague memory of a thread in bygone years about testing different kinds of coatings to help with buildup of snow/ice but I can't find the thread and don't remember if it was about solar panels or dish antennas. The only thing I can find when I search my archive is about using froth-pak