Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Daniel White
Sure.  But considering it would be a new link more bandwidth opens new opportunities like maybe they want a video camera up there for security. If its NLOS though, yeah 950MHz is going to be a better bet. Daniel White Co-Founder - Business

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah, I've seen that done. One guy had some boxes he got from Holland, I was stunned that they didn't have a jitter buffer.  It seemed to me since the transmission is one way that it would be harmless to have a 5 or even 10 second buffer and have plenty of time to retransmit any lost bits. 

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Sean Heskett
we have a lot of radio stations on our network and they just feed their transmitters of our IP network. -sean On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:14 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I'm trying to help out a local radio station. I've never dealt with > this before, but aren't there licensed frequencies that a

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Colin Stanners
The STL gear that I've seen is small-channel audio-only data, something like unidirectional 128kbit with a high-quality audio codec. If you need to find out equipement manufacturers I can look up pictures taken inside of sites where I saw STL devices in use. Based on it being higher-power 900mhz

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/19 6:57 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I wonder how much bandwidth an STL really needs. For an AM or FM radio STL? 3Mbps is more than enough. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Jason Wilson
Here is an example. https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=965395 948mhz 56dbm eirp This link is digital sub 3mbps. If you have an old school radio scanner or spec an tune 940-960mhz and listen for analog stl Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I wonder how much bandwidth an STL really needs. We can do 11ghz in two hops, but the single hop path is NLOS. On 2/12/2019 8:57 PM, Daniel White wrote: Adam, There isn't a lot of spectrum on those channels, so your only going to get 3Mbps or something like that. I'd probably put up

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:53 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings? We're not nerding on O-rings, we're grocking on LUBE -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Daniel White
Adam, There isn't a lot of spectrum on those channels, so your only going to get 3Mbps or something like that. I'd probably put up something like an AF-11 instead if your on a budget. Jeff Holdenrid over at DoubleRadius has done a lot of work with both radio and TV STL links.  I did a few

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Bill Prince
We're not nerding on O-rings, we're grocking on LUBE -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I love how we can all nerd out over O-rings. > > > On 2/12/2019 7:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Tim Hardy
Yes, any of the recognized major coordinators can help you. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 12, 2019, at 8:28 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Do you go through a frequency coordinator like you do with MG microwave? > > >> On 2/12/2019 8:21 PM, ja...@remotelylocated.com wrote: >> Typically they are

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett
Do you go through a frequency coordinator like you do with MG microwave? On 2/12/2019 8:21 PM, ja...@remotelylocated.com wrote: Typically they are 950mhz or so and yes licensed. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736  Office

Re: [AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread jason
Typically they are 950mhz or so and yes licensed. Jason Wilson Remotely Located Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places. 530-651-1736 Office 530-748-9608 Cell www.remotelylocated.com > On Feb 12, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I'm trying to help out a local radio

[AFMUG] STL license frequencies

2019-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm trying to help out a local radio station.  I've never dealt with this before, but aren't there licensed frequencies that a radio station can use for an STL connection? What type of frequency is that?  Is it terribly expensive? The particular radio station I'm trying to help out does not

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett
I love how we can all nerd out over O-rings. On 2/12/2019 7:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products will probably attack the rubber. On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a tube but just presses

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Steve Jones
thats an IV drug users trick for keeping the plunger in the syringe working too, using nose oil. Our bodies are quite versatile On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:23 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products > will probably attack the rubber. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread chuck
And there are bunch of different types of materials used for O rings. Viton Nitrile Neoprene Silicone EPR PTFE Polyurethane Rubber I would stick with silicon grease. DC-4 is good stuff. I would never use a petroleum product on an O ring or a condom. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard?

2019-02-12 Thread Shayne Lebrun
https://xkcd.com/927/ From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 4:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Why hasn't there been a radio-antenna waveguide standard? Probably more a question for Chuck then anyone

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products will probably attack the rubber. On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a tube but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be better off just going without lube. Otherwise,

Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Tim Withrow via AF
It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so I just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it. On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones wrote: Vaseline is what i use on my pool  On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince wrote: Yeah. That was probably my