Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Daniel White
If its too good to be true... Content is the hardest part of IPTV... because the content owners make it complicated in the US.  Everything is transparent with our solution (well at least when the required NDA's are signed). Our solution is to help providers get the content rights.  We don't

Re: [AFMUG] RADMUX IP-24

2019-04-10 Thread Matt Hoppes
Timing source is an Adtran that’s doing fine with other T1s. > On Apr 10, 2019, at 23:59, Carl Peterson wrote: > > I'm guessing it has a timing source and doesn't like rollover > > > >> On Apr 10, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Matt Hoppes >> wrote: >> >> Anyone here experienced with the RADMUX

Re: [AFMUG] RADMUX IP-24

2019-04-10 Thread Carl Peterson
I'm guessing it has a timing source and doesn't like rollover > On Apr 10, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > > Anyone here experienced with the RADMUX IP-24? > > I have a pair that's been working fine to transport a T1 line over our IP > network for months. > > A few days ago it

Re: [AFMUG] Winds did a number on this AirFiber..

2019-04-10 Thread Jason Wilson
No beer? On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 8:01 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > None of this gear is mine...I was working on Cambium ptp link on other > side of roof when I heard the cover fly off...but to give you a warm fuzzy > how about this? > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 5:02 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi

2019-04-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I agree, but when they not only don't have a practical interface that can be used on any device, but also remove basic functionality like being able to manually set the channel (because people apparently aren't smart enough to be trusted with such power), it earns a whole new level of

[AFMUG] RADMUX IP-24

2019-04-10 Thread Matt Hoppes
Anyone here experienced with the RADMUX IP-24? I have a pair that's been working fine to transport a T1 line over our IP network for months. A few days ago it just started flapping up and down, and is now down with: Connectivity status: > (UNAVAILABLE) We've verified no packet

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Sean Heskett
ha! +1 electricity is colorblind On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Metallic conductor = electricity > Non conducting insulator = no electricity > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 6:11 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Winds did a number on this AirFiber..

2019-04-10 Thread Mike Meluskey
We had a bunch hit with 165+ mph winds in Hurricanes Irma and Maria. Almost none lost their plastic covers. Almost all got wet and stopped working. On 10 Apr 2019, at 19:02, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Gusts hit 65 mph.. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Metallic conductor = electricity Non conducting insulator = no electricity -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 6:11 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question That's NEC for household wiring. DC stuff is a whole nuther

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Bill Prince
That's NEC for household wiring. DC stuff is a whole nuther ballgame, and there have been numerous "standards". bp On 4/10/2019 4:10 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: White=neutral, green=ground, black=hot, red=hot, blue=hot, yellow=hot, everything except white and green = hot. -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] Winds did a number on this AirFiber..

2019-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown
First one I got did this. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Winds did a number on this AirFiber.. Gusts hit 65 mph.. -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Have you looked at Rodeo too? Rodeo gets away with public IP transport somehow... From: Ryan's Amplex Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV I agree! We’re working on pricing with RealChoice and A solution through Atheral

Re: [AFMUG] Winds did a number on this AirFiber..

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Radabaugh
That roof wiring though… Mark > On Apr 10, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Gusts hit 65 mph.. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
White=neutral, green=ground, black=hot, red=hot, blue=hot, yellow=hot, everything except white and green = hot. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question And then you

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Ryan's Amplex
I agree! We’re working on pricing with RealChoice and A solution through Atheral > On Apr 10, 2019, at 6:26 PM, wrote: > > Yeah, you can stop talking right there... > > From: Adam Moffett > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:22 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: digital currency for kids

2019-04-10 Thread chuck
I saw a similar non tech idea on Shark Tank lately. From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: digital currency for kids Isn't this how the million dollar apps start? On 4/10/2019 5:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I'm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: digital currency for kids

2019-04-10 Thread Nate Burke
Isn't this how the million dollar apps start? On 4/10/2019 5:28 PM, Steve Jones wrote: I'm pretty sure this is to complicated and wouldn't exist I'm wanting to do some sort of pseudo digital currency for all these short hooligans to earn their keep around the house and trade for services

[AFMUG] OT: digital currency for kids

2019-04-10 Thread Steve Jones
I'm pretty sure this is to complicated and wouldn't exist I'm wanting to do some sort of pseudo digital currency for all these short hooligans to earn their keep around the house and trade for services like tv time, wireless access, game time, whatever... There's a bunch of apps, but I want to

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread chuck
Yeah, you can stop talking right there... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV All I heard was "no residual" :( On 4/10/2019 6:06 PM, Ryan's Amplex wrote: There’s is certainly money to be made up to $100 per 12 months

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread David Coudron
Yep. Dish owns them. David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV Or does Dish own Sling? From: Ryan's Amplex Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread chuck
Dish reseller? A competitor? From: Ryan's Amplex Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV There’s is certainly money to be made up to $100 per 12 months paid For example if you sell a customer sling and they pay 12 months in

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread chuck
Or does Dish own Sling? From: Ryan's Amplex Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV There’s is certainly money to be made up to $100 per 12 months paid For example if you sell a customer sling and they pay 12 months in advance

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Ryan's Amplex
There’s is certainly money to be made up to $100 per 12 months paid For example if you sell a customer sling and they pay 12 months in advance it’s 100. 3 months is 35. No residual though and you must be a dish reseller. Ryan > On Apr 10, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
I don't know, but two different people told me they're doing it. -Adam On 4/10/2019 5:52 PM, Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] wrote: How can you resell sling? Jim Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone Original message From: Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
How can you resell sling? Jim Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT 5G Evolution capable smartphone Original message From: Adam Moffett Date: 4/10/19 4:50 PM (GMT-06:00) To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Sling TV Anybody reselling sling? Any

Re: [AFMUG] Boring Accident

2019-04-10 Thread Carl Peterson
Holy Sh*t. That ain't no joke. Someone Fd up. On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:10 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I heard that on the news but they didn't mention the cause, just "gas > explosion". > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 3:01 PM

[AFMUG] Sling TV

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Anybody reselling sling?  Any money in that game? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi

2019-04-10 Thread Ryan's Amplex
I agree Jason. But damn the Amplifi system works well. If it would be remotely manageable via something besides their APP it would be great. if we could have it associate with our ACS it would be a home run. > On Apr 10, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Jason McKemie > wrote: > > I generally hate any

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Robert Andrews
And then you run into the electrician that looks at black and thinks "LOAD"... and white "NEUTRAL"... ARGGGHHH!!! On 04/10/2019 02:12 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: This I like. *From:* Carl Peterson *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:57 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread chuck
This I like. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question My rule for -48 plants is we label the - side -48 and the + side RET. Then I get a hammer and beat "positive is positive and negative

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Carl Peterson
My rule for -48 plants is we label the - side -48 and the + side RET. Then I get a hammer and beat "positive is positive and negative is negative" into my techs heads. I also like to do Black for RET and white for -48. On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 3:49 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > There's an IEC

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
There's an IEC standard where you use +blue and -gray for a -V DC system. I'm sure we can find a document somewhere saying -Red for a -V DC system. I read a book when I was around 10 or 11 that said red was positive, and that stuck with me forever. Then I learned about AC where red was a second

Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi

2019-04-10 Thread Jason McKemie
I generally hate any consumer router that doesn't have a web interface. On Wednesday, April 10, 2019, Mathew Howard wrote: > I don't think so, unless they've changed it recently. Last time I checked > into it, the answer that I got was that there is no way to manually set the > channel. I think

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread chuck
First step switch I had to maintain used Blue for hot -48 and Black for ground/return/+48 -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:16 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question I have a couple sites where I

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Matt Corcoran
I am accustom to: Red +48 Black GND White -48 But you can never trust installations to be correct. I propose a new standard. +V purple/grey stripe gnd yellow pokadot On 4/10/19, 4:18 PM, "AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof" wrote: I have a couple sites where I used purple or blue for

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have a couple sites where I used purple or blue for -48, but I have spools of red/black zipcord that I use a lot, and I assign red to voltage independent of polarity, so that black is ground. Then even if I use single wires, I make red voltage and black return in order to be consistent. I

Re: [AFMUG] DC/DC converter question

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Some people use red for negative on -48V systems. I've got a -48V Alvarion Wimax thingamabob with a red and black pigtail coming out the back and the red is clearly labeled negative. So yeah, can't go by color unless you put that color there. On 4/8/2019 3:31 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Boring Accident

2019-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I heard that on the news but they didn't mention the cause, just "gas explosion". -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 3:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Boring Accident

[AFMUG] Boring Accident

2019-04-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/10/us/durham-explosion-north-carolina/index.html -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi

2019-04-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't think so, unless they've changed it recently. Last time I checked into it, the answer that I got was that there is no way to manually set the channel. I think they use two 80mhz channels (one for devices to connect to, and another for the remote things to connect to the base... but I'm not

Re: [AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Mark Radabaugh
This has pretty pictures: https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/energy-and-environment/electrical-gas-and-plumbing-safety-and-technical-regulation/powerline-safety/identifying-powerlines

Re: [AFMUG] Google WiFi

2019-04-10 Thread Nate Burke
I've only configured 1, and I think yes to all, and 80mhz. It was a pain to configure. Have to use the App, if you HTTP To it from a PC, it just tells you to download the App on your smartphone. I've been telling people to stay away from them. Not to mention that the google speedtest is

[AFMUG] Google WiFi

2019-04-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is there a way to configure the WiFi channels, or do we have to just trust Google to choose wisely? Do they use 20 or 80 MHz channels in 5 GHz? Do all the pucks use the same channel? Do they use additional 5 GHz spectrum with a hidden SSID for the mesh? -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-10 Thread Mathew Howard
The NDR series appears to do self recovery too... the only difference I can see in features between the two is DC OK relay contact on the SDR, otherwise the SDR seems to just have a little better specs all around (peak current, temperature range, etc.). I tend to use the SDR series for more

Re: [AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Robert Andrews
Etc...how far their hair ( if they have any ) stands on end? On 04/10/2019 09:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Primary electricians can tell by the insulators. How many plates etc. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:43 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] NESC

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP Option 82 and FSK

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
It's been a long time, but I don't recall it being a problem.  We were using ISC DHCPD at the time. something tickles my brain about Full Relay vs Option Insertion.  Maybe I had trouble with one mode but not the other? We're harkening back to the bygone days of 2010 or so, so it's all

Re: [AFMUG] Mean Well NDR 120-24 & NDR 120-48 for powering Packetflux Rack Injector?

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
I went with Meanwell SDR for most stuff.  I think the thing that sold me was self recovery from fault conditions. A lot of power supplies detect a fault and shut off, but then you have to unplug and plug them back in to recover. Anyone routinely using a reboot switch to "fix" problems might

[AFMUG] DHCP Option 82 and FSK

2019-04-10 Thread Nate Burke
I've gotten DHCP Option 82 to work fine on all my EPMP Equipment, just enabling the checkbox. I'm having trouble getting it to work on my old FSK AP's. When I enable it, a client can't get an IP Address via DHCP At all. The mikrotik logs just show that it's attempting to hand out the IP,

Re: [AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/10/19 8:43 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: How do you tell what the voltage is?  Can the markings on a transformer tell you? The power co will tell me where they want me to be, but I'm trying to understand this stuff better so I can argue intelligently about make-ready.  Make-ready is going to

Re: [AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown
Primary has a nasty habit of reaching out and touching someone. Go underground. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NESC Not when I'm trying to maintain clearance over the road

Re: [AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Not when I'm trying to maintain clearance over the road too. They're gonna make me replace a brand new empty pole to put in one 5 feet taller. On 4/10/2019 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: And you will want every inch of it. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Yup, same opinion here.  Maybe it made more sense in the original Latvian or something. I've also had one or two lockups requiring a reboot.  I'm never amused by that. My final issue is more about new technicians.  If somebody familiar with RouterOS comes along and starts configuring that

Re: [AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch

2019-04-10 Thread Josh Luthman
Fuck AirSpan. That's bullshit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:25 AM Matt Corcoran wrote: > Our Airspan gear is failing permanently upon reboot due to the GPS epoch > causing a wrong date in the

Re: [AFMUG] SFP Switch recomendation

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
Has anyone tried Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch?  I've just received a 16 port onehaven't opened the box yet. It would meet Steve's depth requirement.  Price was right.  I just wonder if I'm going to be disappointed when I get into it. On 4/8/2019 1:21 PM, Steve Jones wrote: We primarily use the

[AFMUG] Airspan GPS epoch

2019-04-10 Thread Matt Corcoran
Our Airspan gear is failing permanently upon reboot due to the GPS epoch causing a wrong date in the basestation which invalidates the operation license certificate on bootup. Airspan wants us to pay for a firmware update to fix the problem. Our firmware is 4 years old.Does anyone

Re: [AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown
10' -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] NESC What is minimum clearance from comms to Primary at the pole? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] NESC

2019-04-10 Thread Adam Moffett
What is minimum clearance from comms to Primary at the pole? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tower on spec

2019-04-10 Thread Chuck McCown
TNX Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > Call if you like Chuck. Here would be my main points to make sure you hit. > Build for at least 2 cell carriers > Meter panel box, at least one extra, already installed. > R56 earth resistance, but you know that. 5