Re: [AFMUG] Texas electric grid was at the mercy of cold weather - The Washington Post

2021-02-16 Thread Steve Jones
It's crazy, if we actually built some gen 3 IV reactors, both sides of the argument wouldnt have anything to argue about, they'd be warm, and wed be eating the prior reactor waste. That is the production issue resolved for the foreseeable future and yucca mountain could be turned into an Airbnb

[AFMUG] Texas electric grid was at the mercy of cold weather - The Washington Post

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/16/ercot-texas-electric-grid-failure/ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] VLAN Routing on same port

2021-02-16 Thread Steve Jones
I never thought of it as an efficiency, more a deficiency in that it's missing something. It makes sense though that it has to be processed either way. So if I'm understanding correctly, the only real issue I cold see is port capacity, this case are 10gbps ports so that's not likely an issue. On

Re: [AFMUG] epmp force 425 current throughput

2021-02-16 Thread Ryan Ray
I believe those radios are 1024QAM so you should see faster speeds if you can maintain that higher modulation. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:54 PM Dev wrote: > Spec sheet says they run 4.9-6.135GHz, but also: "Support of 5870 to 6135 > coming in a future software upgrade". So will there be

[AFMUG] Geek moment

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
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[AFMUG] epmp force 425 current throughput

2021-02-16 Thread Dev
Spec sheet says they run 4.9-6.135GHz, but also: "Support of 5870 to 6135 coming in a future software upgrade". So will there be different radios once 6GHz happens that take more advantage of higher 6GHz, or are these slated to eventually go higher in that band without new hardware? Assuming

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
We are ready.. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 2:43 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > And to clear something upSan Antonio DOES NOT have the best Mexican > food ...any mom pop place here in El Paso is way better > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 2:38 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Well now >> >> On Tue, Feb 16,

Re: [AFMUG] Battery testing and validation

2021-02-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Great info. Thank you! On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Pad, pencil, voltmeter. Charge batt fully. Put on load, no charger. > Measure voltage every 15 minutes until either the voltage is below you > minimum setting or 3 hours elapse. > Plot the voltage. You can

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
And to clear something upSan Antonio DOES NOT have the best Mexican food ...any mom pop place here in El Paso is way better On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 2:38 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Well now > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 9:49 AM Carl Peterson > wrote: > >> Enough nerds on here who like actual data.

Re: [AFMUG] Battery testing and validation

2021-02-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Pad, pencil, voltmeter. Charge batt fully. Put on load, no charger. Measure voltage every 15 minutes until either the voltage is below you minimum setting or 3 hours elapse. Plot the voltage. You can extend the line until you hit the min voltage point and you will know how long you can run.

Re: [AFMUG] VLAN Routing on same port

2021-02-16 Thread Adam Moffett
I wouldn't assume any gain in efficiency.  I think you're saying the two or more VLAN's each have their default gateway on logical VLAN interfaces under the same physical interface.  A packet coming in one and out another still has to have the destination IP compared to the routing table to

Re: [AFMUG] VLAN Routing on same port

2021-02-16 Thread Steve Jones
Is there any component of the routing stack that it skips through since it doesnt traverse interfaces? On the backhaul side of things traffic just flows without any policy or anything, I have INPUT chain rules and things for the site LAN So I dont think there is much that would happen to miss. I

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
Interesting how the spot market works when supply gets short. This story from Reuters says that on Sunday the spot price for electricity in Texas went to $9,000 per megawatt hour (or $9/kilowatt hour).

Re: [AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Random rackmount server. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 12:43:47 PM Subject: [AFMUG] x86

Re: [AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread James Howard
I wonder how long that will be on pre-order though. I think it was almost 6 months that the Vengeance 2 was showing that way before we got our last one. That looks like a nice box though. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 2:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
According to the article I read it is something that happens every 8-10 years. It's been a known issue for almost 30 years. With the increasing frequency of the polar vortex, it will probably be occurring more often. It may be worse with the increasing dependence

Re: [AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread Josh Luthman
https://www.balticnetworks.com/maxxwave-vengeance-3-1ru-rackmount-4-port-10gbe-expandable-intel-c246-lan-octo-core-router Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:06 PM Josh Baird wrote: > You can order

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Robert
I don't think they would spend the money for a once in 50 years storm vs. just shutting them down for a week. Maintenance would be a pita to keep clear. On 2/16/21 10:01 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Probably a huge balance issue too.  I would think they would have a deice sprayer on the

Re: [AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread Josh Baird
You can order Lanner direct by calling them. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 2:38 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > what vendor carries those? > On 2/16/2021 2:25 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > CHR on Lanner x86 appliances loaded with Intel x710 cards. > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 1:44 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > >>

[AFMUG] Battery testing and validation

2021-02-16 Thread Eric Muehleisen
What does everyone do for battery testing and analyzing? I’ve been looking at SBS-6500. Price tag is steep-- Sent via mobile -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread Adam Moffett
what vendor carries those? On 2/16/2021 2:25 PM, Josh Baird wrote: CHR on Lanner x86 appliances loaded with Intel x710 cards. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 1:44 PM Adam Moffett > wrote: What's your go-to hardware for an x86 router? Needs to route a few Gbps. 

Re: [AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread Josh Baird
CHR on Lanner x86 appliances loaded with Intel x710 cards. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 1:44 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > What's your go-to hardware for an x86 router? > > Needs to route a few Gbps. Needs SFP+ or allow a PCIe SFP+ card. > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

[AFMUG] x86 Mikrotik hardware

2021-02-16 Thread Adam Moffett
What's your go-to hardware for an x86 router? Needs to route a few Gbps.  Needs SFP+ or allow a PCIe SFP+ card. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Probably a huge balance issue too. I would think they would have a deice sprayer on the tower or some such thing. If they can deice an aircraft prior to departure I would thing they could make a weeping wing type of thing on the blade. I used to fly a C-210 that was certified for flight in

Re: [AFMUG] VLAN Routing on same port

2021-02-16 Thread Josh Luthman
It's packet processing. However much it needs to do. If you're just tagging a VLAN through the device I think that can be done on the switch level and it can do wire speed. If you're doing OSPF between two interfaces, you're processing every packet and will need a bigger CPU for more traffic.

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Steve Jones
I could see that, takes more heat to bring the water to steam On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:55 AM Bill Prince wrote: > I personally don't understand how cold weather can affect a gas or coal > fired power plant, but apparently it's an issue. Maybe not the turbines, > but something with the cold

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Carl Peterson
Bill, https://twitter.com/redbuckman/status/1361141545068601345 On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:55 AM Bill Prince wrote: > I personally don't understand how cold weather can affect a gas or coal > fired power plant, but apparently it's an issue. Maybe not the turbines, > but something with the cold

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
I personally don't understand how cold weather can affect a gas or coal fired power plant, but apparently it's an issue. Maybe not the turbines, but something with the cold water intake freezing up? That is pure speculation. I don't really know. bp

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Robert
Freezing rain can ice up the blades.   Just like aircraft wings, iced up blades don't provide lift and, if they do, it can be turbulent, going in and out of stalled conditions, which can break the blades, bearings, etc.   So shut down until above freezing conditions shed the ice. On 2/16/21

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey Treyi have almost no lips as wellarrrghh My mom's house is the same as mine construction wise...twice back in the 1960's , we had cars driven by drunks hit our front porch and living room walls. The wooden porch poles broke but the wall stopped the cars dead... Our walls are 10 inches

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Carl Peterson
Enough nerds on here who like actual data. The real issue is they don't have enough natural gas to run their gas plants because it is being used for heating. And of course the bigger issue of not being connected to the national grid.

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Steve Jones
so, are the turbines actually frozen, like iced over and cant break loose, or is the lubricant frozen? I dont understand how something with that much mechanical force can be frozen. Here i think the cutoff is 20-25mph in winds IIRC, is it too windy for them to run? On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 10:28

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
Some of the explanation. Gas and coal plants have never been updated to handle periods of cold, so until they are updated, this will continue to happen.

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Trey Scarborough
Yep that is the deal most homes are either heat pump or Natural Gas. The Natural Gas hs had issues keeping up to causing heaters to run longer using more electricity. Yes is gets hot in the summers max though on average is 110 deg F if you cool your house to 75 then your only looking at a 35

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2016/09/f33/TX_Energy%20Sector%20Risk%20Profile.pdf That'll show the major transmission lines and how they do or don't interconnect. The EIA also has an interactive map that lets you zoom in. It also seems like Texas may need more than two nuclear

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
The rolling blackouts were in response to the reduced capacity and ice damage. It's a cascade thing. This has happened to Texas about every 10 years since the late 90s. bp On 2/15/2021 7:20 PM, Steve Jones wrote: media reports

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Bill Prince
The plants that are offline are mostly gas and coal fired. It's talked about on ERCOT. bp On 2/15/2021 6:43 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Also 22% of Texas’ power distribution is currently offline due to the wind turbines being iced

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
This says a lot. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 8:11 AM jerry bickle wrote: > Windfarms are frozen. > > > > Jerry Bickle > > President > > RF Design Services, LLC > > Cell: 405.650.3366 > > Fax: 405.330.1310 > > Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com > > WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com > > > > > > > > *From:

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread jerry bickle
Windfarms are frozen. Jerry Bickle President RF Design Services, LLC Cell: 405.650.3366 Fax: 405.330.1310 Email: je...@rfdesignservices.com WEB: www.rfdesignservices.com From: AF on behalf of Steve Jones Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Carl Peterson
Wind power is only ~20 - 25% of texas' available power sources(~25-30MW without actually looking it up). That is at peak generating capacity during the summer when there is a lot more wind. Wind power in texas currently exceeds historical output for this time of year even with a large number of

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Tushar Patel
Apart from down power lines, because of temperature in single digit and -10 to -15 with windchill factors, demand is unprecedented and not enough supply so we are seeing rolling blackouts too. In Last 24 hrs, first outage at my home was 2.5 hrs, we had two more each lasting 2 hrs I think. We

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
https://kvia.com/news/el-paso/2021/02/15/el-pasos-not-seeing-power-outages-like-the-rest-of-texas-and-heres-why/ On Tue, Feb 16, 2021, 2:24 AM Jaime Solorza wrote: > ... rolling black outs , frozen turbines, and downed power lines... > My friend had to rig cover for heat pump in San Antonio...

Re: [AFMUG] Power outages

2021-02-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
... rolling black outs , frozen turbines, and downed power lines... My friend had to rig cover for heat pump in San Antonio... Very few of those in El Paso... We have gas furnace as most older homes have...my house is very well insulated.. only sheet rock in our house is in room additions and