Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-07 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
ory short Kurt, find a path calc tool to run the signal numbers >>>> now that you have established you have a path. As Adam has said I would not >>>> be overly concerned with those trees in the path as much as having the >>>> right tool to show your predicted sig

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-07 Thread Mathew Howard
as much as having the >>> right tool to show your predicted signal. A good path calc tool for PTPT >>> gives you almost the exact numbers for signal you should have for >>> alignment. Radio Mobile and by default tower coverage will not calculate >>> the paths the same way

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-07 Thread Adam Moffett
adband-Mapping.com> *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 4:32 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman
fault tower coverage will not calculate the paths the > same way. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser > *Sen

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Brian Webster
the same way. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 4:32 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ??? after looking

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Jon Langeler
Split the path in half for sure. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Dec 6, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > > Trying to do a NLOS shot with AF5XHD's thats 25 miles (see attached topo). > Only have done 10-12 mile shots before that are NLOS. I have had good success >

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Adam Moffett
I got over 300mbps at 16.7 miles with 3' dishes on the AF5XHD. The catch is you need a large channel for these high data rates and you have to have a solid SNR across the whole channel.  That's no guarantee. I don't think those intermittent trees in the bottom half of the Freznel zone are as

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Tim Reichhart
Kurt you might want to add 10db more to that signal I find out that towercoverage isnt far good at giving good signal calculation at all. Instead of -65 your looking at -75 Tim   -Original Message- From: "Mathew Howard" To: AFMUG Date: 12/06/18 03:06 Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... with LOS, it *should* work, but I wouldn't even like doing that. With NLOS, it might work, but I would be more surprised if it did work than if it didn't. And if there are trees involved, even if it works now, it very likely won't work six months from now... On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:38 PM

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Josh, who did you do that link for? On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 2:38 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Not just no but hell no. 150 megs isn't going to happen. I wouldn't even > count on it associating. > > I did a 15 mile shot and I was a lot higher on both sides maybe half an > hour from where you're at.

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Luthman
Not just no but hell no. 150 megs isn't going to happen. I wouldn't even count on it associating. I did a 15 mile shot and I was a lot higher on both sides maybe half an hour from where you're at. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Mathew Howard
ubnt doesn't make a product that's going to work good for that situation... The only thing that might work better than AF5XHD for that is going to be AF-2X, or maybe AF-3X, but the chances of getting 150mbps out of either of those is pretty slim. Now, as far as if AF5XHD's with 2' dishes will

Re: [AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Timothy Steele
everything about that email just wants to make me ask why-why oh why.. I would use https://link.ubnt.com/ to find the product that would work best On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:31 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Trying to do a NLOS shot with AF5XHD's thats 25 miles (see attached topo). > Only have

[AFMUG] 25 mile shot AF5XHD NLOS ???

2018-12-06 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Trying to do a NLOS shot with AF5XHD's thats 25 miles (see attached topo). Only have done 10-12 mile shots before that are NLOS. I have had good success doing the 10 mile shots skimming tree tops but not sure if the added distance is going to drastically change that. According to TowerCoverage