[AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Does anyone know if the KPP dual slant omni is an Alpha AW3089 or a knockoff? And has anyone used either of them? My experience with 5 GHz dual pol omnis has been disappointing, I'm wondering if these bigger, more expensive omnis deliver better performance. 11 dBi isn't much if you can lose

Re: [AFMUG] 48DC Surge Protector

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown
I could probably fit a fuse on the GigE-POE-APC. Yes, thinking of attempting to protect both forward and return. Not sure if I should actually provide a fuse or just a jumper that shorts out the fuse holder. If they ship with a fuse, what size? From: George Skorup Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP lite

2015-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Contact Cambium Support and see if they can get you a CNUT package for 13.2.1.3 which is the first FW that supports the Lite APs. From: Joshua Heide Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 5:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 450 AP lite can you downgrade a firmware on a 450 lite? I have a unit

Re: [AFMUG] anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 for sale?

2015-08-01 Thread Jeremy
They're less than 80 bucks new. Why do you need a used one? On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 4:19 AM, Tim Reichhart timreichh...@hometowncable.net wrote: Does anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 feedhorn for sale? Tim

Re: [AFMUG] 48DC Surge Protector

2015-08-01 Thread Sean Heskett
Needs to handle 1.21 gigawatts On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could probably fit a fuse on the GigE-POE-APC. Yes, thinking of attempting to protect both forward and return. Not sure if I should actually provide a fuse or just a jumper that shorts out the

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Rory Conaway
We are seeing 2 miles at 30’ with Powerbeam 400 clients. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 10:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni Yeah, we’re only using them for a radius of less than 1 mile, and

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Where did you buy that, LMG? From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni We have an Alpha dual-slant omni on 2.4 GHz, and we're getting -62 dBm at ~~ 2 miles, with SNR 36 dBm. Will soon see if we can stretch that to 2.75

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Sean Heskett
I know, I just like teasing ya ken ;) Truth be known, I have 2 omnis left on my network...should be gone in the next month tho :) On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I’m not putting sectors at a legacy repeater site in a tiny town with 6 subs

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yeah, we’re only using them for a radius of less than 1 mile, and usually with a CPE right at the repeater site, so the smaller antenna with more downtilt seemed appropriate. I question whether that’s really a 10 dBi antenna though, the range has been disappointing. From: Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Bill Prince
We have an Alpha dual-slant omni on 2.4 GHz, and we're getting -62 dBm at ~~ 2 miles, with SNR 36 dBm. Will soon see if we can stretch that to 2.75 miles. I think it will do well considering the locations. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 8/1/2015 10:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yeah, we’re only

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Bill Prince
Yup. Jason, Keith, and Tre are your friends. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 8/1/2015 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Where did you buy that, LMG? *From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I’m not putting sectors at a legacy repeater site in a tiny town with 6 subs which of course are in all different directions. The site is currently 2.4 FSK and an omni with 7 degrees downtilt, but the 2.4 interference has become too bad. I have been trying to use Rockets

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
$600.00 and 6 inch diameter? Yikes. Oh wait ..its an omni antenna... I am waiting to here on some testing on Chucks 5 GHz one. Once I get it back I can test on a site we took over with an existing omni. Current one range is 2 miles On Aug 1, 2015 10:28 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Why the Ubiquiti 10dbi instead of the 13dbi? On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I’m not putting sectors at a legacy repeater site in a tiny town with 6 subs which of course are in all different directions. The site is currently 2.4 FSK and

Re: [AFMUG] anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 for sale?

2015-08-01 Thread Tim Reichhart
The reason I need an used one is because my other one lighting got it and I am sending that one back to ubnt for rma -Original Message- Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 for sale? From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Date: 2015/08/01

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Rory Conaway
With DFS, omni’s are great at reduced distance shots in high-density, high-vegetation environments. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 9:28 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni I know, I just like teasing

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Rory Conaway
Darn, wish I knew that before we put this one up. I really should have put up at least 3 sectors to handle the 5 people attached to it. Silly me. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 8:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Greater vertical bandwidth? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 1, 2015 12:56 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: Why the Ubiquiti 10dbi instead of the 13dbi? On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 for sale?

2015-08-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Are you expecting them to replace a lightning damaged radio under warranty? Do an out-of-warranty repair? An $80 radio is like a goldfish, you flush it. Unless it's a DOA that should be replaced for free. I was more thinking that you were having trouble finding a new one in stock anywhere

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Sean Heskett
Friends don't let friends use omnis ;) On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Does anyone know if the KPP dual slant omni is an Alpha AW3089 or a knockoff? And has anyone used either of them? My experience with 5 GHz dual pol omnis has been disappointing, I'm

Re: [AFMUG] 48DC Surge Protector

2015-08-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
In our enclosures LED on is failure on surge protection. Easy to spot On Jul 31, 2015 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: LED on power is passing and the SS is working LED off something is broke. 10 amps at lowest of 24v is 240 watts. That's way above spec for the

Re: [AFMUG] 48DC Surge Protector

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Easy, for 1.21 femtoseconds. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 10:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48DC Surge Protector Needs to handle 1.21 gigawatts On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I could probably fit a fuse on the

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Always wondered if radials on these would help? I turn it over to antenna experts for answers On Aug 1, 2015 12:07 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: What antenna and what frequency? PBE can’t do 5.1 or DFS yet, right? I worry a bit that the Ubiquiti omnis I think are only spec’d down to

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown
And at these frequencies you would really have to use a full plate ground plane due to the wavelength. Radials at 5.8 would be on the order of a half inch long. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 3:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni Nope. They

[AFMUG] Facebook testing drones with lasers for Internet

2015-08-01 Thread Rory Conaway
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/facebook-our-drones-will-use-lasers-to-deliver-10gbps-internet-access/ The interesting part is the laser working at 10Gbps at 10 miles. Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PoE and DC Plug both?

2015-08-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Cloud stuff should... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 2, 2015 12:11 AM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Cool. I wonder if that includes the CSR series with PoE in? *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Adam Moffett
We have the Alpha AW3089 in use right now. The most obvious difference with KPP is the electrical downtilt of 2 degrees, vs 4 degrees on the Alpha. In theory you'd get more distance out of the KP, but the Alpha might be more deaf to distant noise. The KPP spec sheet showed deeper nulls than

Re: [AFMUG] One sync pipe; both types of sync...

2015-08-01 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
As others have said: Use a syncpipe deluxe, or a syncbox 12. They both will provide sync both to the syncinjector and to either 2 or 12 timing port radios. Alternatively, you can build a cable which connects pins 1 and 2 on the sync expansion port on the injector to pins 1 and 6 on the PTP450.

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Nope. They are much more complex than antennas that make use of radials. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:20 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni Always wondered if radials on these would help? I turn it over to antenna experts for answers On

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I haven't used the 10dbi, but the 13dbi has been working reasonably well for us. Awhile back I tested one by rotating it while I watched the signal level on a CPE, if I remember right, the difference was something like 4-5db between the best and worst points. On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Ken

Re: [AFMUG] Alpha wireless omni

2015-08-01 Thread Jon Langeler
I've used both. I wasn't impressed with Alpha. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Does anyone know if the KPP dual slant omni is an Alpha AW3089 or a knockoff? And has anyone used either of them? My experience with 5 GHz dual pol omnis

[AFMUG] anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 for sale?

2015-08-01 Thread Tim Reichhart
Does anybody got an used nanobeam m5 400 feedhorn for sale? Tim

[AFMUG] 450 AP lite

2015-08-01 Thread Joshua Heide
can you downgrade a firmware on a 450 lite? I have a unit on 13.4 and im trying to downgrade and i get No Update Packages available for: APL-DES I have the latest CNUT and i have tried 13.1.3 and 13.2.1 Thanks for help in advance :D