Re: [AFMUG] Vivint 28GHz installs on bank roof

Fine adjustment does not matter, it can go either way, we have several mounted on smaller than 4.5" pipe, depends who installs it on how safe it is :) Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:00 PM, George

[AFMUG] What we learned about 5G in 2015 | ITworld or I want my fast 5 G sung by Sting...

http://www.itworld.com/article/3018072/what-we-learned-about-5g-in-2015.html?google_editors_picks=true

Re: [AFMUG] F/B Video on Cambium forum

Awesome, thank you for confirmation :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Sriram Chaturvedi" > To:

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

Many megabytes per second. EOIP isn't really that costly in terms of overhead. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > What kind of throughput can you expect from

Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates

Fiber splicers / installers are not temp local jobs, and the pay is actually quite good. Good training program and benefits. Google here in the KC metro keeps adding new suburbs. They are showing no signs of slowing down. Picking key areas to start was not underhanded or dirty, but smart business.

[AFMUG] EOIP

What kind of throughput can you expect from an m’tik with encrypted EOIP?

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint 28GHz installs on bank roof

Some of those radio waves are up side down...weep holes not at bottom.. On Dec 23, 2015 7:20 AM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > Cambridge Broadband ptmp system 300 Mbps fdx > > Sent from Outlook Mobile > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM -0800,

Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates

Yea but most of them are temporary local jobs whereas Cox has a lot of offices and staff in Phoenix. And Google has a tendency to build where they get the most revenue and ignore the rest of the city, especially the suburbs. They cherry pick and then tell everyone they have deployed fiber in

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint 28GHz installs on bank roof

Cambridge Broadband ptmp system 300 Mbps fdx Sent from Outlook Mobile On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM -0800, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: I was installing a Cambium ptp link to replace  a Cyclone ptp link and saw about 10 of these.

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

Question: When the size of the present boxes is larger than the tree, does that mean that there is a higher expectation of what is inside the boxes ? :) Regards and The Very Best Wishes for a Very Merry Christmas . Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Shenzhen landslide

Didn't they find a man alive in rubble after a few weeks? On Dec 22, 2015 10:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > The scale of these Chinese industrial accidents is mind boggling, I'm > thinking back to the photos from that warehouse explosion in Tianjin > earlier this year. > > Also,

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Tik VPN: best trade off between performance and security

Can you do encrypted vpls on Mikrotik? I don't think I've tried this before. On Dec 23, 2015 9:53 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > Does it have to be VPN ? if this is all MTs' doing MPLS/VPLS will be > easier and offer the best performance. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Tik VPN: best trade off between performance and security

Does it have to be VPN ? if this is all MTs' doing MPLS/VPLS will be easier and offer the best performance. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

that was too easy.I will refrain since its Christmas week Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I like that theory. Like the smaller dinner plate makes you thing you > have eaten more. > >

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

I'll sell it to you for $2000... http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2SplusEM Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Silly question $2500 > > *From:* Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

with the 750 in the mix it was like 60mbps unencrypted 30mbps encrypted, On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yep, just a private layer 2 pipe over the public internet. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 23,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

I have a buddy, he has alot of stories from his California(drugs) days in the 70s(more drugs). He had a friend who had designed a motor that ran on compressed air, and powered a compressor for compressing said air, his prototype vehicle did 60mph. He was about to release it to the public when some

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

I was wondering who those men in black suits were. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:09 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Josh is going to get a visit from the Gmen now > > On

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

Used to be that folks that used my superstingers reported better multipath resistance than yagis at 900 MHz. I think that a larger capture area may have something to do with it. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz,

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

I’ll second that. RF is witchcraft. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain Powerbridge has a wider beamwidth and picks up from "around the trees".

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

I like that theory. Like the smaller dinner plate makes you thing you have eaten more. -Original Message- From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree Question: When the size of the present boxes is larger than the

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

NEVA I had my fill of ikev2 on metarouter config using strongswan. KILL ME NOW ! On 12/23/2015 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Soon (TM) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Keefe John

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

Powerbridge has a wider beamwidth and picks up from "around the trees". I've seen this only at a customer site with a Beam vs Nanostation. Roughly the same signal but the Beam was absolutely worthless compared to the Nanostation. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] OT Vocab

This is one of the hot things in software nowadays, and what is driving a lot of the functions in things like Fitbit. On 12/23/2015 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Learned a new word today. Gamification. or Gamify. Don’t recall running into it before. My first instinct was that it had

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Shenzhen landslide

You are thinking of Barney. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:04 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Shenzhen landslide Didn't they find a man alive in rubble after a few weeks? On Dec 22, 2015 10:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof"

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

...and that's the last we'll ever hear of Josh On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I was wondering who those men in black suits were. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 >

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

Thanks From: Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP Some guys did a test with encrypted EOIP and got 7.5 gbps with CCR1072s. http://www.stubarea51.net/2015/10/16/10-gbps-of-layer-2-throughput-is-possible-using-mikrotiks-eoip-tunnel/

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

What is the cost for one of those routers? From: Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP Some guys did a test with encrypted EOIP and got 7.5 gbps with CCR1072s.

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

Silly question $2500 From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP What is the cost for one of those routers? From: Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP Some guys did

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

I'd expect most of the CCRs to do 1 gbps - there's a nice chart at the bottom that shows small 64 byte packets and the throughput each model will do. Assuming you're just carrying data and not doing any firewall, you should have no problem at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

Naw, Chipotle gift cards. They were on sale... -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree I assume you are giving everyone smoked meats for presents this year? -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

On related subject when will Mikrotik support IKEv2?

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

Don't you dare offend Taco Bell. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Ha...wanna be Mexican food like Taco Hell > Even before issues doing poorly

[AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

I have a PTP NLOS link which is working the opposite of what I expect, and I'm having trouble understanding it. It is a NLOS link in 5ghz (2.5 mile link, Urban area, <1/8 Mile is NLOS). UBNT, 2' dish to a Powerbridge. Here's the part I can't figure out. Over the summer, when the trees are

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

[image: Inline image 1] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I used to get 2-3 perpetual energy people wanting me to do work for them > each year. > It has

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

Is it inherent to the spectrum, or will different radios cope with it differently? I think I remember that being one of the claims to fame of the PTP600, was that it handled multipath better. On 12/23/2015 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Trees were eating up multi path that is now harming your

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

Josh is going to get a visit from the Gmen now On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > [image: Inline image 1] > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

I assume you are giving everyone smoked meats for presents this year? -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree I like that theory. Like the smaller dinner plate makes you thing you have eaten

[AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

I see Hillary is going to cure Alzheimer's in the next 5 years. I remember when Nixon declared war on cancer and was going to cure it in 4 years. Don’t understand why these politicians are so lazy about this stuff. I think the drug companies are paying them to not do these wonderful

Re: [AFMUG] OT Vocab

Although I also prefer a nice pair of legs, but I guess the Fitbit might solve that too. On 12/23/2015 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Learned a new word today. Gamification. or Gamify. Don’t recall running into it before. My first instinct was that it had something to do with putting a nice

Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates

The reason for the low cost plan is mostly for elderly and low income people. We want a high penetration rate. Once it is installed, you either pay to be online, or don't. If you are on the cheap plan, it's no contract, so you can come and go as you please. I cover my costs, and then the sub

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

We've been told that we'll have APs and SMs soon (already have most of the APs). The sector antennas and yagis are supposed to ship to the channel at the end of the year. KP has 3 different CPE antennas in the works. A short yagi, a long yagi, and a flat panel. They've already done some

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

We’ve shipped some pre-orders. Inventory is hit or miss… I’m sure things will even out in January. Ken has the MSRP below… if you need a quote send me a message offlist. Cambium sector is made by PCTel. A number of vendors are interested in making other options antenna wise, but since

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

Yep, just a private layer 2 pipe over the public internet. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP I'd expect most of the CCRs to do 1 gbps - there's a nice chart at the bottom that shows small 64 byte packets and the

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

when is v7 coming? On 12/23/2015 11:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: v7 http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1=90266 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Matt

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

Soon (TM) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Keefe John wrote: > when is v7 coming? > > On 12/23/2015 11:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > v7 > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

I lol'ed at the carbs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I see Hillary is going to cure Alzheimer's in the next 5 years. > I remember when Nixon declared war

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

Trees were eating up multi path that is now harming your signal. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:58 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain I have a PTP NLOS link which is working the opposite of what I expect,

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

I wonder if this works on all M’tik routers (at lower rates of course). I have an application that needs perhaps 1 Gbps. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EOIP I'll sell it to you for $2000...

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

Prove it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I make better tacos > On Dec 23, 2015 10:34 AM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

yeah sometimes 3' up or down makes a world of difference. On 12/23/2015 1:15 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Nate, Chuck is right. How high are the radios on each end of the link? Sometimes you can get around multipath issues by changing the radio heights. Most of the time I see improvements by

[AFMUG] OT Vocab

Learned a new word today. Gamification. or Gamify. Don’t recall running into it before. My first instinct was that it had something to do with putting a nice pair of legs on something. But it is to add game design elements or game principles to something. Still like a nice pair of legs

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

Some distributors might have them, they are shipping... I got one from WAV last week. We haven't had time to put it up yet unfortunately, so I can't say how well they work. Last I heard there wasn't a LiteAP in the works, but hopefully that will change if we keep asking for it... On Wed, Dec 23,

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

I haven't tried, but I would doubt it. Urban Area. Sitting inside my house, I can pickup 5 of my neighbors Cable/DSL Modems. On 12/23/2015 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: Nate, can you get enough bandwidth through a 10MHz 2.4GHz signal? Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

Some guys did a test with encrypted EOIP and got 7.5 gbps with CCR1072s. http://www.stubarea51.net/2015/10/16/10-gbps-of-layer-2-throughput-is-possible-using-mikrotiks-eoip-tunnel/ On 12/23/2015 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Many megabytes per second. EOIP isn't really that costly in terms

Re: [AFMUG] EOIP

v7 http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1=90266 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Matt wrote: > On related subject when will Mikrotik support IKEv2? >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

Brush with greatness... I saved my buddy from getting his ass kicked in a fight with Tom Ogle and his friends.Ogle supposedly invented a system to get 100 miles to a gallon in late 70s...they claimed he was killed by oil companies...hell no...drugs and alcohol was cause. On Dec 23, 2015 10:33

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

I make better tacos On Dec 23, 2015 10:34 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Don't you dare offend Taco Bell. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

I used to get 2-3 perpetual energy people wanting me to do work for them each year. It has dwindled. Only recall one project in the last couple of years. (Water pump that used the pumped water to power itself). From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 10:56 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

oklet me get home Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Prove it. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

Sounds like Chernobyl. Hey, lets power our pumps from our own reactor. Worked out great. On 12/23/2015 11:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I used to get 2-3 perpetual energy people wanting me to do work for them each year. It has dwindled. Only recall one project in the last couple of years.

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

Here’s what my admittedly flawed memory tells me. The pre orders won’t all be filled until January, although Cambium claims to be ramping up production. I am guessing they were very uncertain what the demand would be for this, since there was a fair amount of skepticism in the community. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

Ha...wanna be Mexican food like Taco Hell Even before issues doing poorly in El Paso... On Dec 23, 2015 10:17 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Naw, Chipotle gift cards. They were on sale... > > -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, December 23, > 2015

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

Nate, Chuck is right. How high are the radios on each end of the link? Sometimes you can get around multipath issues by changing the radio heights. Most of the time I see improvements by lowering the height on the side that's suspected of getting the multipath. On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:10 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Shenzhen landslide

They dug someone up alive after ~~ 60 hours (2-1/2 days). bp On 12/23/2015 7:03 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Didn't they find a man alive in rubble after a few weeks? On Dec 22, 2015 10:19 PM, "Ken Hohhof" > wrote: The

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

The size of the sector isn't as bad as I thought it would be, it's smaller than the UBNT 900mhz sector we have on one of our towers. WAV had them in stock last week, and I know at least one other distributor had them as well... whether or not anyone has any left now, I don't know. But I have one

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

Still better than taco bell On 12/23/2015 2:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: How do you know if isn't made out of plastic? On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Simon Westlake > wrote: I would call that well and truly proven. On 12/23/2015

[AFMUG] CRS and VLAN

Does the CRS not pass tagged traffic in it's default config? I haven't gotten into VLAN's on a CRS before now and I'm finding the documentation does not seem to match what I have.

Re: [AFMUG] CRS and VLAN

Adam, Yes it passes tagged and untagged traffic by default. At least both the CRS1012 and CRS108 that I have do. Sincerely, Jason Pond On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Does the CRS not pass tagged traffic in it's default config? > > I haven't

Re: [AFMUG] Caliber Communications

They seem to be using an LTE connection. Rogers and Bell have very Advance LTE networks here…and they work well. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 519-449-5656 x-600 From: Josh Reynolds Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 4:35 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude

I have PTSD from a cat situation... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:00 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude I've been in some crawl spaces under trailer homes that were nicer than the trailer home... On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint 28GHz installs on bank roof

It’s pretty pricey, but cheaper than 6x licensed links when you can put 6-8 end points (if I remember right) on a single “AP”. My concern is the 300Mbps you’re “sharing” for all the CPEs. I don’t know how it’s working for Vivint when they’re selling 50Mbps to the end user and feeding ~4(?) of

Re: [AFMUG] Vivint 28GHz installs on bank roof

Depends, but generally if you figure $8K for the AP and $2K for the CPE you'll be a bit high, but close. Spectrum rental depend on the market and it's sold by AP. It's a B to B, MTU, or tower to tower application. Not resi. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude

I've abandoned equipment in them to avoid aforementioned PTSD. On Dec 23, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Chuck McCown > wrote: I have PTSD from a cat situation... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:00 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

Yeah, my pre-order was through WAV. They reached out to customers about the preorders, so they may have gotten more orders in to Cambium than other distributors. Since Cambium said they expected it would take past the end of December to fill all the preorders, I didn’t think to check with WAV

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

Directional antennas with good shields, might be another option. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain I haven't tried, but I would doubt it.� Urban

Re: [AFMUG] Broadband ON the decline... Comments?

If I didn't get it for free at home, There's a good chance I might not have it. But that's just because I'm too cheap to have it when I do a Cost/Benefit analysis on it. I could use the $60/mo doing something more fun instead of sitting at home! On 12/23/2015 3:08 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

Back in the -70 my grandpa wanted to use an electric motor to turn an alternator to power an electric motor to turn an alternator etc. Luckily, my dad talked him out of it. Chuck McCown wrote: I used to get 2-3 perpetual energy people wanting me to do work for them each year. It has dwindled.

Re: [AFMUG] Tik to Tik VPN: best trade off between performance and security

I load tested EOIP with IPSEC a couple weeks ago between two CCR1036’s on a gig link and got them to fill about 700mbps of a 1gbps pipe. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude

I've been in some crawl spaces under trailer homes that were nicer than the trailer home... On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have been in storage sheds behind trailer homes that were nicer than the > trailer home... > > *From:* Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates

I'll take 1Gbps at home for $70. Someone should come build fiber in my neighborhood! On 12/22/2015 5:53 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: That depends on the area. Also, the costs are going *DOWN* EPB has 100Mbps FD FTTH for $57.99/mo. 1Gbps is $69.99/mo. 10Gbps is $299/mo US Internet is 50Mbps for

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

How do you know if isn't made out of plastic? On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: > I would call that well and truly proven. > > On 12/23/2015 2:14 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Well these are Tacos Suizos running short on time but will post me >

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

I was getting between 30 and 45mbps aggregate on a 10mhz channel, across our parking lot, and through three walls... which is pretty much meaningless, other than to say it's better than PMP100 :P On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > That's impossible to answer

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude

Inaccurate. He was in a storage shed behind the trailer home. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude Trailer Home?!?!!?! What a shock! On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:12 PM Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] NLOS, 5ghz, Foliage, and Rain

I suspect you actually need the foliage to scatter more signal your way, especially if there is something more than just the trees blocking the path. Also, in the very rare circumstances I have shot 5 GHz through trees, I have noticed that it is affected by wind blowing the branches around.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

he had a good run On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > ...and that's the last we'll ever hear of Josh > > On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Josh Luthman < > j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > >> I was wondering who those men in black suits were. >> >>

[AFMUG] Caliber Communications

Anyone ever heard of or dealt with Caliber Communications in Canada? I'm interested in their 13 megabytes per second claim as well as what technology they might be using.

Re: [AFMUG] Caliber Communications

Sounds like a marketing flub. On Dec 23, 2015 3:33 PM, "Jon Bruce" wrote: > They're saying megabytes though. My math says 13 MB = 104 mb. > > On 12/23/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Probably the same or similar network to Exede. And yes, it can be that >

Re: [AFMUG] Caliber Communications

They're saying megabytes though. My math says 13 MB = 104 mb. On 12/23/2015 4:23 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Probably the same or similar network to Exede. And yes, it can be that speed or faster if using the same tech. I've seen 25Mbps, and have heard of higher. The caps on Exede are pretty

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

http://www.virtual-strategy.com/2015/11/24/congress-views-brillouin-energys-lenr-hht-bolier-reactor-system-generating-thermal-energy#axzz3vBRArZcw -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

There's no good cheap 3.65ghz competition either, but they released a 3.65ghz Lite AP... On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > I doubt there will be a 900mhz 450 light-AP available.While we WISPs are > always happy to save money, their main purpose in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Politics (trolling)

Stack dump. DEAD BEEF. Watchdog reset. On 12/23/2015 5:21 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: -70? That should have been the '70's. I'm multitasking radios and memory lane. Chuck McCown wrote: Well, the low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) community keeps getting repeatable results. So we might

Re: [AFMUG] OT XMAS Tree

I would call that well and truly proven. On 12/23/2015 2:14 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Well these are Tacos Suizos running short on time but will post me making tacos On Dec 23, 2015 11:18 AM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT.. Alamo dude

Trailer Home?!?!!?! What a shock! On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:12 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > The guy who was arrested for urinating on the Alamo a while back was > arrested for murder today... He shot a 56 year old and holed up in a > trailer home. Got tazed and

Re: [AFMUG] What we learned about 5G in 2015 | ITworld or I want my fast 5 G sung by Sting...

Five years out, but it looks exciting! Gigabit speeds and services for IoT devices on super low power. I can see them using home or neighborhood nodes for this, dumping or transporting across wired networks more and more. So you’ll take a 5G device and peer it with your cell phone provider and

[AFMUG] Broadband ON the decline... Comments?

Broadband use is on the way down cnn.it/1S6sO5v Sent from Outlook Mobile

Re: [AFMUG] Broadband ON the decline... Comments?

My reading of the Pew study bargraphs is people only have so much money and they’re not going to give up their smartphones which take an ever increasing share of the budget, plus they can get on WiFi at work and other places. Many people no longer have computers, just “devices”, so it’s a

Re: [AFMUG] Caliber Communications

Probably the same or similar network to Exede. And yes, it can be that speed or faster if using the same tech. I've seen 25Mbps, and have heard of higher. The caps on Exede are pretty bad though. On Dec 23, 2015 3:20 PM, "Jon Bruce" wrote: > Anyone ever heard of

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

What's the real-life throughput of the 450i? On 12/23/2015 12:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: What is the status on the 900mhz 450 hitting mass distributors? I know some people out there have some early pre-order units but is there some of this still floating around on a boat somewhere or

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

That's impossible to answer without knowing what SNR you will get, what channel size you will use, what up/down ratio you choose, and whether you will use 2.5 or 5 msec framing. If you can use a 20 MHz channel and can get 30+ dB SNR so you can run 8X MIMO-B, then throughput will be like any

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