Yea but most of them are temporary local jobs whereas Cox has a lot of offices and staff in Phoenix. And Google has a tendency to build where they get the most revenue and ignore the rest of the city, especially the suburbs. They cherry pick and then tell everyone they have deployed fiber in a city. In the Phoenix metro valley, we have thousands of square miles that don’t even have cable.
Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates ... What? You probably aren't aware of this, but the engineering and backbone for Google is outsourced. Most of the local splicing and installs are local folks. I have no idea about the tax portion. Full disclosure: I have quite a bit of info on how they operate. I'd also love to know why there's a bunch of coax running into their cage area. It's not going to the roof... Only thing I can think of is they are streaming the local TV content from somebody else in the building. On Dec 22, 2015 11:28 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Cox has already threatened to sue and they have stopped it. I don’t blame them. Why are these stupid cities falling all over themselves to Google to cherry pick the best areas when they tax and regulate the local companies that have much wider coverage and employ people locally. Tempe also cut the really stupid deal that caused their citywide mesh to fail because they wouldn’t let the vendor make a profit. This is why you keep government people out of private industry, they are clueless. Rory From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:25 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates Hopefully Tempe will play ball with Google soon. It would be great for the area. On Dec 22, 2015 9:18 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Not that what we have seen. Fiber installations have been more expensive for base prices than cable. Rory -----Original Message----- From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 4:53 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates That depends on the area. Also, the costs are going *DOWN* EPB has 100Mbps FD FTTH for $57.99/mo. 1Gbps is $69.99/mo. 10Gbps is $299/mo US Internet is 50Mbps for $39.95/mo, 100Mbps for $47.95/mo, 1Gbps for $65/mo 2.5Gbps for $99/mo, 5Gbps for $199/mo, and 10Gbps is $399/mo CSpire is $70/mo for 1Gbps wireless (not sure how they are providing this), and $80/mo for 1Gbps AT&T is 80Mbps for $80/mo, or 1Gbps for $110/mo - down to $80/mo for 1Gbps in markets where it competes or plans to compete with Google Fiber (which is $70/mo for 1Gbps). That's 18 markets today, 23 markets in 1st part of the year Here's the Comcast xfinity 2Gbps map (what they claim anyway): http://www.xfinity.com/multi-gig-offers.html DOCSIS 3.1 rollouts are happening now, as well as G.FAST. Sonic in California has also been rolling out 1Gbps FTTH, although I am unsure of their pricing. I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 250Mbps and up in 50+ major US markets by the end of the year, for under $75/mo. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > There isn’t enough fiber to worry about yet. And when they have it, > the costs are going up. There is a lot of room below them. > > > > Rory > > > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf > Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:21 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates > > > > I guess that depends on the area, the services provided to the area, > and the prices provided for those services in those areas. > > For example, $80 will get you 1Gbps on AT&T right now via their > gigapower product in some markets. In other markets, $80 gets you 12Mbps or > so. > > Windstream, Time Warner, Comcast etc are similar depending on the > market you look at for each one. > > On Dec 22, 2015 3:08 PM, "Rory Conaway" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > It means it will be easier to encroach on their areas. > > > > Rory > > > > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf > Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:43 PM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates > > > > This is nothing new, I think most of the cable folks have been raising > rates slowly but surely.. > > > Comcast is also doing a rate hike. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 2:36:03 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates > > Internet Only > Price changes for Cox High Speed Internet are as follows: > Starter will change from $34.99 to $37.99. > Essential will change from $52.99 to $57.99. > Preferred will change from $66.99 to $73.99. > Premier will change from $77.99 to $84.99. > > > > From: Mike Hammett > > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:27 PM > > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates > > > > *nods* The consumers hate the cable and satellite companies (perhaps > they should), but they should really be mad at the content creators. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:22:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox raising rates > > Anybody offering cable TV has to raise rates every year to keep the > same profit margin. The content costs go up every year. It's stupid. > > On Dec 22, 2015 12:15 PM, "Rory Conaway" > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > https://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Cox-Also-Raising-Rates-on-Broadban > d-TV-Services-135937 > > > > Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO > > 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 > > 602-426-0542<tel:602-426-0542> > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > www.triadwireless.net<http://www.triadwireless.net> > > > > “When in doubt, gas it” – Hurricane Bob Hannah, Motocross Legend > > > > > >
