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From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:07:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
On this scale, there is almost no marginal expense involved in giving the
customer more bandwidth for the same money or the same bandwidth for less
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
hmmm, yes and no, sort of... a lot of it depends upon the perspective one is
looking at...and of course there are a number of factors that go into the
equation
So how much is 1gbps from Cogent going for in the data center now?
their peering requirements - too many
problems going off-net with them compared to others.
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
100 meg: $4, 1g: $0.80, 10G
SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 12:08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:08:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
So how much is 1gbps from Cogent going
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*From: *Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, July 13, 2015 12:08:29 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
So how much is 1gbps from Cogent going
...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 8:05:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Nice breakdown and for the most part agree. When I was doing consulting work
I had customers who were Tier1, 2 and 3. And out of those customers I seen
different approaches to exactly what you
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:25:34 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Cogent was much more than $800 for a gig port in Dayton.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Well, look at airline tickets. They raced to the bottom and didn’t like it
there.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
On this scale, there is almost no marginal expense involved in giving the
customer more
On 7/12/15 19:26, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Well, look at airline tickets. They raced to the bottom and didn’t like
it there.
Maybe it will eventually implode from being too cheap. I would expect
some monetary amount has to be paid for transit.
~Seth
SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:07:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
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*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:07:39 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
On this scale, there is almost no marginal expense involved in giving the
customer more bandwidth for the same money or the same bandwidth for less
money. It is a race to the bottom
...@snappytelecom.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:20:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
hmmm, yes and no, sort of... a lot of it depends upon the perspective one is
looking at...and of course there are a number of factors that go into the
equation..
Let's take a look
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From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:31:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Faisal,
Do you have any experience in selling bandwidth to hosting providers, etc?
I have 95%+ unused upstream capacity like
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From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:35:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
or buy from hosting providers. You're more likely to get a better quality
network buying from a hosting
would anyone else.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:45:39 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
or buy from
, their
average peak usage on that product in all markets was 68% I was told.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
It'll go down. It always goes down. With 40GigE
On 7/12/15 8:34, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Here is an older but relevant article on this topic..
http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php
Dang, who is really paying $10k/mo for peering?
~Seth
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:21:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
On 7/12/15 8:34, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Here is an older but relevant article on this topic..
http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php
Dang, who is really
: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Maybe .. but (just my opinion) where is rock bottom? Out with the old and in
with the new … the old was cheaper to run but you need the new for capacity.
It’s a never ending circle as we know but the raw cost to push the bits doesn’t
really come down that much so how
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mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org mailto:p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:42:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Yup …. The market is hitting
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 6:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
I don't think there is a bottom. Maybe some went up, but most are going down
and are still going down. Everyone I talk to is cheaper than they were last
the big boys will give you as big of a pipe as you want for free
and charge you for usage. UBB. Maybe Doug Clark was right after all...
From: Paul Stewart
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Maybe .. but (just my opinion) where
On 7/12/15 17:50, Paul Stewart wrote:
Peering cheaper for people … sure .. at certain traffic levels it’s
almost worthwhile. Don’t get me wrong – I’m a big proponent of
peering. But the “breakeven” point where it makes sense to scale up
peering efforts isn’t what it used to be. Having said
On 7/12/15 19:07, Chuck McCown wrote:
Perhaps all the big boys will give you as big of a pipe as you want for
free and charge you for usage. UBB. Maybe Doug Clark was right after
all...
So like power, gas, water.
~Seth
-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 4:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
On 7/12/15 8:34, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Here is an older but relevant article on this topic..
http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing
...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 7:07:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Yeah hence my point about the numbers being out of whack quite a bit ... the
point he's making is correct overall though
If you assume the cost of public peering is $10,000/month
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 8:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
This also has been discussed...
http://drpeering.net/AskDrPeering/blog/articles/Ask_DrPeering/Entries/2013/5/24_The_Battle_Continues__Peering_vs
discounts…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
People with big pipes in Equinix? ;-)
It actually wouldn't surprise me if Equinix 10g was in that ball park 5 - 10
years ago
11, 2015 9:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
If you wanna see a busy setup, look at NTT's network map. They show each
circuit on the map, not just generic lines. There are a few destinations, but
there are 84x 10 gigabit circuits between Japan and the US. I think
-il.com
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:42:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Yup …. The market is hitting pretty much as low as it can go in my opinion ….
There’s still room for a bit of movement
] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
FYI, based on our experience at 100G Levels most IP Transit providers are @
very similar Monthly MRC.
And yes, due to limitations of 100g ports on a line card and expensive
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Trans-pacific and Trans-atlantic are more expensive to upgrade then “mainland”
paths… NTT is deploying a lot of 100G on Juniper MX2020 platform right now… not
sure how often they update their network map…
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
...@snappytelecom.net
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:42:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Yup …. The market is hitting pretty much as low as it can go in my opinion ….
There’s still room
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 8:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/07/thursday-bytes-gtt-telepacific-vxchnge-netrality-faction/
100G ports to customers still isn't common. It happens, but isn't common
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 8:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/07/thursday-bytes-gtt-telepacific-vxchnge-netrality-faction/
100G ports to customers still isn't common. It happens, but isn't common
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From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:09:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
FYI, based on our experience at 100G Levels most IP Transit providers are @
very similar Monthly
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
H, considering a full 100g port of service would be priced at $35,000 to
$45,000 / Month, it needs a $150,000 to $500,000 Router to handle, a one
time charge of $30,000 to $100,000 is negotiable
Imtiaz
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
H, considering a full 100g port of service would be priced at $35,000 to
$45,000 / Month, it needs a $150,000 to $500,000 Router to handle, a one time
charge of $30,000 to $100,000
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 5:26:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Actually to be specific, GTT is a “Tier1” provider since they acquired TiNet.
So usually a “blend of several networks” refers
Wilson - MTIN
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
We use them in Chicago. They provide a BGP blend of several networks. They are
an international provider. One of their direct peers is China Telecom. I saw
a press release
They enforced the change for us at their Toronto POP … was all good – we had
wanted to move to 3257 anyways…..
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 7:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
There was an email
/ Peering – Transit –
Internet Exchange
On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
As in GTT – IP Transit provider?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone heard
: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
I got an email many months ago saying that's what they're doing. We're peered
with 4436. So I asked, when are we coordinated to be moved to 3257? They
said... you're not. Umm.. Ok. So I don't know WTF their plan
) but there may be
some regions where they are not doing that (although not sure why not).
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2015 9:01 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
I got an email many months ago saying
Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:52:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
We're
-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
*From: *George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:52:09 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
We're peered
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*Sent: *Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:52:09 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
We're peered at 350 E Cermak. Maybe they said screw it, 350 will be
AS4436. Like buildings that have their own zip code.
On 7/9/2015 6:07 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
Everyone is supposed to be moving
heard of GTT
As in GTT – IP Transit provider?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
I was told they are pulling out of Tucson.
Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226
I was told they are pulling out of Tucson.
Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/
Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring
As in GTT - IP Transit provider?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
I was told they are pulling out of Tucson.
Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO
4226 S. 37th
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From: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:27:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Man I miss TiNet … those were great years J
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
I got an email many months ago saying that's what they're doing. We're peered
with 4436. So I asked, when are we coordinated to be moved to 3257? They
said... you're not. Umm.. Ok. So I don't know WTF their plan is. Maybe they're
going to stick with the 4436
...@snappytelecom.net
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:54:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
FYI, GTT is collapsing their network (nlayer AS4436 ) into Tinet ASN 3257.
Regards.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663
Man I miss TiNet … those were great years :)
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
NLayer, TINet or one of their other acquisitions? ;-)
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Mike Hammett
: Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 8:27:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
Man I miss TiNet … those were great years J
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 2:43 PM
To: af
://www.ics-il.com
*From: *Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, July 8, 2015 7:54:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT
FYI, GTT is collapsing their network (nlayer AS4436
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